M Roadster valuation

M Roadster valuation

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hughjayteens

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Thursday 14th July 2005
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Need to know a ballpark value please people!

BMW Z3 M Roadster

Estoril Blue Metallic, blue / black electrically adjustable & heated seats, power hood in dark blue, wind deflector, BMW cd Tuner, Tracker monitor plus BMW alarm.

1998 R registration, 11,800 miles from new with full main dealer service history and old mot’s to verify mileage.

The car has just had a £1200 service and is kept in a carcoon.

Parkers shows a good private value of £13k with 60k miles, but this has only done 12k.

What do you think?

C



slim_boy_fat

735 posts

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Thursday 14th July 2005
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How do the MOT's verify the mileage?

agent006

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Thursday 14th July 2005
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slim_boy_fat said:
How do the MOT's verify the mileage?


Because the mileage is written on each MOT. Therefore cross reference that with history and bills and there's your verified mileage.

slim_boy_fat

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Thursday 14th July 2005
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agent006 said:

slim_boy_fat said:
How do the MOT's verify the mileage?



Because the mileage is written on each MOT. Therefore cross reference that with history and bills and there's your verified mileage.


Sorry you'v got me there, still dont see how this verifies the mileage of the car, i must be missing something here.

hughjayteens

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Thursday 14th July 2005
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OK let's assume the mileage is 100% genuine - what would the car be worth?

2 Smokin Barrels

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Thursday 14th July 2005
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Depends on the mileage...







Scoobz

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Thursday 14th July 2005
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slim_boy_fat said:

agent006 said:


slim_boy_fat said:
How do the MOT's verify the mileage?




Because the mileage is written on each MOT. Therefore cross reference that with history and bills and there's your verified mileage.



Sorry you'v got me there, still dont see how this verifies the mileage of the car, i must be missing something here.


Here you go chief:

Genuine Miles:

Mot 1 = 10000

Mot 2 = 20000

Mot 3 = 30000

Mot 4 = 40000

Mot 5 = 50000

and so on....

Dodgy Mileage

Mot 1 = 10000

Mot 2 = 20000

Mot 3 = 30000

Mot 4 = 20000 - Hold on guv... summat wrong here.


No MOTs = something fishy...

slim_boy_fat

735 posts

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Saturday 16th July 2005
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Scoobz said:

slim_boy_fat said:


agent006 said:



slim_boy_fat said:
How do the MOT's verify the mileage?





Because the mileage is written on each MOT. Therefore cross reference that with history and bills and there's your verified mileage.




Sorry you'v got me there, still dont see how this verifies the mileage of the car, i must be missing something here.



Here you go chief:

Genuine Miles:

Mot 1 = 10000

Mot 2 = 20000

Mot 3 = 30000

Mot 4 = 40000

Mot 5 = 50000

and so on....

Dodgy Mileage

Mot 1 = 10000

Mot 2 = 20000

Mot 3 = 30000

Mot 4 = 20000 - Hold on guv... summat wrong here.


No MOTs = something fishy...


Nope still dont see how MOTs are proof of a genuine mileage.

Hey here's a thought, maybe its you guys who dont get it and not me????????????





hughjayteens

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Sunday 17th July 2005
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Thanks chaps - v useful!

UpTheIron

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Sunday 17th July 2005
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slim_boy_fat said:

Nope still dont see how MOTs are proof of a genuine mileage.

Hey here's a thought, maybe its you guys who dont get it and not me????????????





Please do enlighten us then. Other than forged MoT's or persistent clocking of the vehicle over the last 7 years, are you suggesting that there is something we are missing?


HughJay...

IMHO there shouldn't be too great a premium for a 12k car v. a 60k car - assuming the condition of the two is the same. We are talking about a BMW here - 50k here or there is no great shakes.

cptsideways

13,633 posts

258 months

Sunday 17th July 2005
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I'm pretty sure that a low mileage car is'nt worth £'s more than an average mileage car. But its more likely to sell quicker with less haggling.

Broccers

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Sunday 17th July 2005
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hughjayteens said:
Thanks chaps - v useful!


LOL

mustard

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Sunday 17th July 2005
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With the provenance to verify the mileage (YES I do mean old MOTs, Service Invoices etc which are the only real way of verifying the mileage ) then as with all sportscars (rightly or wrongly you choose!) low mileage is always King.

On an M Roadster Glasses guide books the car with an average mileage of around 68k, the lowest figure the mileage adjustment goes down to is 40k which it places a premium of £625 so IMHO such a low mileage ought to add around £1500.

Cars in one of the best colours and providing the condition reflects the mileage then if priced comparitively to what else is one sale the mileage should certainly catch potential buyers eyes and lead hopefully to a quick sale



>> Edited by mustard on Sunday 17th July 14:35

hughjayteens

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Mustard - what figure does it mention?

mustard

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Sunday 17th July 2005
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hughjayteens said:
Mustard - what figure does it mention?


£11550 Trade with 67k on it...book i've got lying around is a couple of months old so 'may' have moved a little

hughjayteens

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Sunday 17th July 2005
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Never looked at a Glass's guide but does it give suggested retail and private sale figures?

Cheers

C

slim_boy_fat

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Sunday 17th July 2005
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UpTheIron said:

slim_boy_fat said:

Nope still dont see how MOTs are proof of a genuine mileage.

Hey here's a thought, maybe its you guys who dont get it and not me????????????






Please do enlighten us then. Other than forged MoT's or persistent clocking of the vehicle over the last 7 years, are you suggesting that there is something we are missing?



Its really not that difficult, please do try and keep up. Try and imagine a world where an unscrupulous person could drive there car with the speedo, and hence the odd disconnected, lets say for half a year every year. And they loose 6k-10k miles every half year, and lets say they sold the car 4 years later with 40k miles on it, all MOTs are as they should, all service history is as it should be etc etc... Oh but wait what’s the actual true mileage.... go on take a guess!!!!

mustard

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Sunday 17th July 2005
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slim_boy_fat said:

UpTheIron said:


slim_boy_fat said:

Nope still dont see how MOTs are proof of a genuine mileage.

Hey here's a thought, maybe its you guys who dont get it and not me????????????





Try argueing with this lot!

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Please do enlighten us then. Other than forged MoT's or persistent clocking of the vehicle over the last 7 years, are you suggesting that there is something we are missing?




Its really not that difficult, please do try and keep up. Try and imagine a world where an unscrupulous person could drive there car with the speedo, and hence the odd disconnected, lets say for half a year every year. And they loose 6k-10k miles every half year, and lets say they sold the car 4 years later with 40k miles on it, all MOTs are as they should, all service history is as it should be etc etc... Oh but wait what’s the actual true mileage.... go on take a guess!!!!



Try argueing with this lot!



Yes it is possible, but you'd need to be pretty smart not to come unstuck!

mustard

6,992 posts

251 months

Sunday 17th July 2005
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hughjayteens said:
Never looked at a Glass's guide but does it give suggested retail and private sale figures?

Cheers

C


Retail circa £14k with 67k

hughjayteens

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Sunday 17th July 2005
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OK great, so maybe circa £16k with 12k miles?