Buying a 'higher' mileage M140i

Buying a 'higher' mileage M140i

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AndyDefault

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119 posts

165 months

Wednesday 12th August 2020
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So after 10 years of having to run oil burners due to high motorway miles I'm finally now in a position where I can run a nice fruity petrol. Based on my budget of £18-£19k a M140i seem so tick all the boxes. This is the first petrol I've had since a 1.2 Fiesta 10 years ago so jumping from a 2L Diesel to a 3.0L petrol is a bit daunting, but I'm comfortable with the man maths.

My last 3 cars (Golf, 120d, 420d) have been bought at 10-20k miles and sold at 70-80k, and the M140i's in my budget seem to be around 40-50k (there are exceptions, but I want the HK which seems to be quite limiting), so thinking about the risk of things going wrong when buying has never really been an issue for me.

I know 40-50k+ is nothing on a BMW engine. But what are the risks when buying a 3.0L petrol with that kind of mileage? I've heard that timing belts can go at around 60k which can be catastrophic so it's that kind of thing I'm trying to be mindful of.

Court_S

13,851 posts

184 months

Wednesday 12th August 2020
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As far as I’m aware the B58 is a pretty robust engine, certainly there don’t seem to be too many issues on places like BabyBMW.

If it’s been serviced and is in good nick, I’d not be too worried.

limpsfield

6,193 posts

260 months

Wednesday 12th August 2020
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I have a 2016 M240 that’s done around 45k so far and has been completely reliable and doesn’t feel any different from 4 years ago. Obviously things can always go wrong but I wouldn’t be put off buying higher mileage. It’s a great car, good luck with the search.

kiethton

14,071 posts

187 months

Wednesday 12th August 2020
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We have a 2015 M135i so the older engine but facelift - should tick over 95k miles this week

In the time we’ve had it (3 years/28k miles) it’s needed nothing but standard servicing. Everything still works 100% although the suspension is not as tight as a friends 15k mile M140i, expected given the mileage.

Smuler

2,287 posts

146 months

Wednesday 12th August 2020
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Even my even older (2009) 335i (N54) got to 85k when I sold it with only injectors needing doing.

My only BMW diesel (just 2 years old) got to 44k before breaking down twice frown Never again.

I’d put my faith in petrol , I have the B58 and I’m confident.

AndyDefault

Original Poster:

119 posts

165 months

Wednesday 12th August 2020
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Thanks guys, that's really reassuring. I'll only be doing circa 12-15k per year so I doubt it will even reach some of the mileages yours have done whilst under my ownership!

toon10

6,472 posts

164 months

Wednesday 12th August 2020
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I ran a 2016 M135i for 4 years no issue but I sold it as low mileage. Before lockdown I was doing about 7k miles per year. You should be fine with the mileage you're talking about.

My only concerns would be how the car was driven and what future issues that could throw up. I was on a few forums and mine was probably the only stock car in the community. Most were modified and chipped. I now have the B58 in the 5 series and I tend to drive that as a cruiser with the occasional hoon but the mlite was always in sport mode and regularly ragged. It's that type of car so I suspect most mlites will have been used with a heavy right foot.

AndyDefault

Original Poster:

119 posts

165 months

Wednesday 12th August 2020
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toon10 said:
I ran a 2016 M135i for 4 years no issue but I sold it as low mileage. Before lockdown I was doing about 7k miles per year. You should be fine with the mileage you're talking about.

My only concerns would be how the car was driven and what future issues that could throw up. I was on a few forums and mine was probably the only stock car in the community. Most were modified and chipped. I now have the B58 in the 5 series and I tend to drive that as a cruiser with the occasional hoon but the mlite was always in sport mode and regularly ragged. It's that type of car so I suspect most mlites will have been used with a heavy right foot.
I am working on the assumption that most on the market will have had their fair share of abuse!!

Court_S

13,851 posts

184 months

Wednesday 12th August 2020
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AndyDefault said:
I am working on the assumption that most on the market will have had their fair share of abuse!!
I guess at least that way you can’t be disappointed! hehe

I know many get bought by absolute throbbers, but there are also others owned by grown ups. Hopefully you’ll get the latter.

vacant-100

112 posts

86 months

Wednesday 12th August 2020
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I picked up an AUC M140i at the end of June with 41k, I've put another (almost) 2k on it so far and it's been faultless (touch wood).
If I told you it was a 4k mile car you would never know.

Pizzaeatingking

547 posts

78 months

Wednesday 12th August 2020
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So far so good with the B58 engine, even the ones that are running more power (and there are plenty of them about) seem to be doing well. There were a few issues with coolant disappearing but most were the caps weeping.

HM-2

12,467 posts

176 months

Thursday 13th August 2020
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I wouldn't obsess over HK. It's not very good and IMO it makes no sense to limit your option with it when a relatively cheap component upgrade will best it.

AndyDefault

Original Poster:

119 posts

165 months

Thursday 13th August 2020
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HM-2 said:
I wouldn't obsess over HK. It's not very good and IMO it makes no sense to limit your option with it when a relatively cheap component upgrade will best it.
Out of curiosity have you only heard the HK on the 1 series or larger models as well? The stock system in my 120d was absolutely dreadful and I vowed to always buy the best system on offer (I am a massive audiophile). I then opted for the HK on my 420d and it was absolutely sublime.

toon10

6,472 posts

164 months

Thursday 13th August 2020
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AndyDefault said:
Out of curiosity have you only heard the HK on the 1 series or larger models as well? The stock system in my 120d was absolutely dreadful and I vowed to always buy the best system on offer (I am a massive audiophile). I then opted for the HK on my 420d and it was absolutely sublime.
My M135i didn't have HK and the standard system was woeful for a car with a premium badge even if it is 'only' the 1 series. My 5 series has HK and it's better but still pretty rubbish to be honest. I'm not sure I'd have been happy ticking it on the spec sheet and paying that much for a slightly better than bad system. It's often seen as an essential option like pro nav so it can make selling on easier but I'd look for the best car you can in your budget whether it has HK or not if it were me.

AndyDefault

Original Poster:

119 posts

165 months

Thursday 13th August 2020
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toon10 said:
My M135i didn't have HK and the standard system was woeful for a car with a premium badge even if it is 'only' the 1 series. My 5 series has HK and it's better but still pretty rubbish to be honest. I'm not sure I'd have been happy ticking it on the spec sheet and paying that much for a slightly better than bad system. It's often seen as an essential option like pro nav so it can make selling on easier but I'd look for the best car you can in your budget whether it has HK or not if it were me.
Having had a quick look around online I'm struggling to find any BMW audio specialists near me in Manchester. I'll hold out for the HK as having good quality audio is hugely important for me and I can't deal with another system as terrible as my 120d.

kiethton

14,071 posts

187 months

Thursday 13th August 2020
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Part of the reason we got ours was the spec (they are very sensitive to it). For me the must have's hare HK audio and Pro-Nav.

Ours also has:

Heated seats
Adaptive LED's which turn around corners (great for night driving)
A few other bits I cant remember

On the HK I'd definitely seek one with it out - it's leaps and bounds ahead of the standard system

Edited by kiethton on Thursday 13th August 12:46

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

231 months

Thursday 13th August 2020
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Also, if you take out the BMW warranty before it hits 60k miles, important, and do it monthly the driveline warranty is only £34 a month.


Court_S

13,851 posts

184 months

Thursday 13th August 2020
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I’d want pro nav and HK personally. The HK isn’t great but it’s loads better than the rubbish standard speakers.

xjay1337

15,966 posts

125 months

Thursday 13th August 2020
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AndyDefault said:
So after 10 years of having to run oil burners due to high motorway miles I'm finally now in a position where I can run a nice fruity petrol. Based on my budget of £18-£19k a M140i seem so tick all the boxes. This is the first petrol I've had since a 1.2 Fiesta 10 years ago so jumping from a 2L Diesel to a 3.0L petrol is a bit daunting, but I'm comfortable with the man maths.

My last 3 cars (Golf, 120d, 420d) have been bought at 10-20k miles and sold at 70-80k, and the M140i's in my budget seem to be around 40-50k (there are exceptions, but I want the HK which seems to be quite limiting), so thinking about the risk of things going wrong when buying has never really been an issue for me.

I know 40-50k+ is nothing on a BMW engine. But what are the risks when buying a 3.0L petrol with that kind of mileage? I've heard that timing belts can go at around 60k which can be catastrophic so it's that kind of thing I'm trying to be mindful of.
Have you done ANY research on the B58 engine?

It doesn't have a timing belt, to start with...........

xjay1337

15,966 posts

125 months

Thursday 13th August 2020
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