S50b32 headers onto my e46 330ci m54...Will they fit

S50b32 headers onto my e46 330ci m54...Will they fit

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Johnnyb001

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6 posts

80 months

Tuesday 14th August 2018
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First post on here guys....I have a e46 330ci supercharged. Great.....not so..I have blocked cats 🙄 instead of paying bmw 780pound plus Labour to replace one section of the manifold I want to get new manifold...sports cats and straight all way back. If I'm going to spend that money might as well make it count!!
Question is do s50b32 headers fit on my e46??
Anyone do this before....have been told by others it worked but want you guys opinion!!
The s50b32 headers are off an e36 m3 evo.

pingu393

9,393 posts

217 months

Tuesday 14th August 2018
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You may need to check to see if cyl 6 will fit. On RHD M Roadsters and Coupes it is "crushed" to allow for the steering rack. I don't think the E36 M3 is "crushed".

Also cyl hd bolt arrangement is different between S50 and S54. I don't know what arrangement is on your car. (S50 is four in a rectangle, S54 is 3 in a triangle).

Anything can be made to fit with enough fettling wink

Johnnyb001

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6 posts

80 months

Tuesday 14th August 2018
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Ya mate....I'm just gona hand it over to custom exhaust guy and tell him sort it lol
But I was told they bolt on but who knows

f0xy

158 posts

202 months

Tuesday 14th August 2018
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They do, but they foul the block and head casting if you try to bolt them up in standard form.

The M54 also has half the studs the S50 does, so you wont all six branches of the S50 manifolds bolted up fully, probably end up blowing.

Our solution was to laser cut some 10mm steel flanges, which were drilled, tapped and had studs put in where they were missing on the M54 head. Meaning we could then bolt the S50's on with 24 nuts.

The 10mm thick flange also meant they now clear the block, head and steering column much better.


BiTurbo228

55 posts

185 months

Wednesday 15th August 2018
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@f0xy That's dead clever. I'm impressed.

Now if someone could actually design a proper 6-3-1 system for these engines we might be getting somewhere wink

Johnnyb001

Original Poster:

6 posts

80 months

Wednesday 15th August 2018
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Wow that looks amazing.....
I spoke with my exhaust guy and he won't do anything like that....
I'm at a loss here as can't get any headers for the 330 apart from second hand stock....
You don't happen to have a ten mm spare one those mate.....🤑

helix402

7,913 posts

194 months

Wednesday 15th August 2018
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Will a 328i M52tu manifold fit? This doesn’t have the cats in the manifold if you’re looking to lose those.

Johnnyb001

Original Poster:

6 posts

80 months

Wednesday 15th August 2018
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See that's the point mate I don't know what will fit but it's worth bit of research I guess....
It's like finding needle in haystack seems to me. I'm up against it for time and can't find a suitable solution..... I was told svereal things and next to impossible to find a custom exhaust shop to make it work....if it can't bolt directly on they not interested....

f0xy

158 posts

202 months

Wednesday 15th August 2018
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BiTurbo228 said:
@f0xy That's dead clever. I'm impressed.

Now if someone could actually design a proper 6-3-1 system for these engines we might be getting somewhere wink
We run the S50 manifolds into a collector, then a 2.5" Vband, and then into a single 2.5" system on this car.

I have ran the same setup S50 2-1 collector to 2.5" setup (without these adaptor plates) on my N/A M5x build making 300hp for a while.

Johnnyb001 said:
Wow that looks amazing.....
I spoke with my exhaust guy and he won't do anything like that....
I'm at a loss here as can't get any headers for the 330 apart from second hand stock....
You don't happen to have a ten mm spare one those mate.....??
I've replied to your email Johnny

helix402 said:
Will a 328i M52tu manifold fit? This doesn’t have the cats in the manifold if you’re looking to lose those.
The PCD would be the same but I think they have full 24 studs too? so you would still be short of studs to properly bolt it up maybe...

Johnnyb001

Original Poster:

6 posts

80 months

Wednesday 15th August 2018
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Ya I think will be same issue....blowing due to not enough bolts ect ....never thought this would be so much of an issue. Was dead excited ....blocked cats....Ok then time for new exhaust and more power potentially....didn't think would be so stressful to sort out. But in contact with someone now who reckons they can get me sorted by use of adapter plates so fingers crossed!! Really want to get my car sorted as have temp car at the moment costing me a fortune!!

Dave0321

29 posts

89 months

Friday 31st August 2018
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f0xy said:
We run the S50 manifolds into a collector, then a 2.5" Vband, and then into a single 2.5" system on this car.

I have ran the same setup S50 2-1 collector to 2.5" setup (without these adaptor plates) on my N/A M5x build making 300hp for a while.
What do you mean M5X?

Will the s50b32 headers bolt up to an alu m52 without fouling anything? I recently purchased a set believing that they would but seem to be finding conflicting information...

John Gab German

1 posts

2 months

Wednesday 5th February
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f0xy said:
They do, but they foul the block and head casting if you try to bolt them up in standard form.

The M54 also has half the studs the S50 does, so you wont all six branches of the S50 manifolds bolted up fully, probably end up blowing.

Our solution was to laser cut some 10mm steel flanges, which were drilled, tapped and had studs put in where they were missing on the M54 head. Meaning we could then bolt the S50's on with 24 nuts.

The 10mm thick flange also meant they now clear the block, head and steering column much better.
Old post, but I am very curious to know whether this steel flanges have passed the test of time. Whether they have leaked or not.

I am running into the same problem and I am not very keen to drill any holes into my engine block.

Many thanks!!