Clutch judder question
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A friend of mine has recently bought a 320 coupe. I think it is around K reg..? Can't recall exactly, but its "that" model from around that age reg anyway (i don't know the BMW E codes)
He says he's been having a few problems with it, one of which is when the car is running at normal temps, the clutch will judder in 1st and reverse. Its fine when cold.
In a recent edition of practical performance car or similar, i was reading an article about buying second hand subaru's (bear with me) and if clutch judder is a problem on those they recomended(!) to bring revs to 5,000rpm and dump cltuch to 'clean' the clutch faces. Done with respect they reckoned it was a good way of clearing such a problem.
I said to matey that i'd post up here to see if anyone had the "proper" solution, otherwise I wondered if the dropping the clutch method may work here. No idea how the car was used in previous life - maybe old biddy who "rode" the clutch or the time and knackered it a bit?
Aparently the garage he bought it from (don't know if proper BMW dealer or not) have had the clutch out and inspected it to be fine, although i am always suspicious of this sort of work straight after you have bought a car and wonder if they are fobbing him off....
He says he's been having a few problems with it, one of which is when the car is running at normal temps, the clutch will judder in 1st and reverse. Its fine when cold.
In a recent edition of practical performance car or similar, i was reading an article about buying second hand subaru's (bear with me) and if clutch judder is a problem on those they recomended(!) to bring revs to 5,000rpm and dump cltuch to 'clean' the clutch faces. Done with respect they reckoned it was a good way of clearing such a problem.
I said to matey that i'd post up here to see if anyone had the "proper" solution, otherwise I wondered if the dropping the clutch method may work here. No idea how the car was used in previous life - maybe old biddy who "rode" the clutch or the time and knackered it a bit?
Aparently the garage he bought it from (don't know if proper BMW dealer or not) have had the clutch out and inspected it to be fine, although i am always suspicious of this sort of work straight after you have bought a car and wonder if they are fobbing him off....
I've owned a few BMW in the past and problem you described seems very similar to something I suffered on two of my cars. In my case the problem was not clutch but the brakes.
The calipers were sticking causing the car to judder on take off as the clipers were struggling to release. Only happened in traffic when I was holding the car on the brakes. I think a brake service may solve the problem.
The calipers were sticking causing the car to judder on take off as the clipers were struggling to release. Only happened in traffic when I was holding the car on the brakes. I think a brake service may solve the problem.
Buffalo said:
A friend of mine has recently bought a 320 coupe. I think it is around K reg..? Can't recall exactly, but its "that" model from around that age reg anyway (i don't know the BMW E codes)
He says he's been having a few problems with it, one of which is when the car is running at normal temps, the clutch will judder in 1st and reverse. Its fine when cold.
In a recent edition of practical performance car or similar, i was reading an article about buying second hand subaru's (bear with me) and if clutch judder is a problem on those they recomended(!) to bring revs to 5,000rpm and dump cltuch to 'clean' the clutch faces. Done with respect they reckoned it was a good way of clearing such a problem.
I said to matey that i'd post up here to see if anyone had the "proper" solution, otherwise I wondered if the dropping the clutch method may work here. No idea how the car was used in previous life - maybe old biddy who "rode" the clutch or the time and knackered it a bit?
Aparently the garage he bought it from (don't know if proper BMW dealer or not) have had the clutch out and inspected it to be fine, although i am always suspicious of this sort of work straight after you have bought a car and wonder if they are fobbing him off....
I have this exact problem. Same age and model as your friend. I've learnt to drive around the problem but if there's a fix I'd love to know it!
ginge
I had the same problems a few years ago with a 520i
Turns out it was the clutchplate slightly warped. For some reason they seem to be plagued by this.
I did hear that a good fix is to get the revs up and whack it straight into third, thereby fixing the clutchplate. Funny enough I didnt try this, but the chap I spoke to said it was the best fix for the problem.
Turns out it was the clutchplate slightly warped. For some reason they seem to be plagued by this.
I did hear that a good fix is to get the revs up and whack it straight into third, thereby fixing the clutchplate. Funny enough I didnt try this, but the chap I spoke to said it was the best fix for the problem.
Found this happens with my 325 as well although only after i've been for a bit of a thrash. I find either pulling away in higher revs or in second gear the best way to drive around the problem. I had BMW look at the car whilst in for servicing and they found nothing wrong with the clutch.
There are two reasons why this may be happening.
First, if any engine oil leaks into the gearbox and settles on the clutch, that can cause judder. Only way to fix this is to take the clutch out, clean it, fix the engine oil leak and voila (expensive).
The other possible fault is if you've changed the clutch. Older clutches used asbestos and the newer ones don't. As older clutches are designed for an asbestos material, you tend to find this can cause the juddering.
I had this problem on my old '89 E30 316i. Still, doesn't really affect the car much!
First, if any engine oil leaks into the gearbox and settles on the clutch, that can cause judder. Only way to fix this is to take the clutch out, clean it, fix the engine oil leak and voila (expensive).
The other possible fault is if you've changed the clutch. Older clutches used asbestos and the newer ones don't. As older clutches are designed for an asbestos material, you tend to find this can cause the juddering.
I had this problem on my old '89 E30 316i. Still, doesn't really affect the car much!
ginge said:
A friend of mine has recently bought a 320 coupe. I think it is around K reg..? Can't recall exactly, but its "that" model from around that age reg anyway (i don't know the BMW E codes)
He says he's been having a few problems with it, one of which is when the car is running at normal temps, the clutch will judder in 1st and reverse. Its fine when cold.
In a recent edition of practical performance car or similar, i was reading an article about buying second hand subaru's (bear with me) and if clutch judder is a problem on those they recomended(!) to bring revs to 5,000rpm and dump cltuch to 'clean' the clutch faces. Done with respect they reckoned it was a good way of clearing such a problem.
I said to matey that i'd post up here to see if anyone had the "proper" solution, otherwise I wondered if the dropping the clutch method may work here. No idea how the car was used in previous life - maybe old biddy who "rode" the clutch or the time and knackered it a bit?
Aparently the garage he bought it from (don't know if proper BMW dealer or not) have had the clutch out and inspected it to be fine, although i am always suspicious of this sort of work straight after you have bought a car and wonder if they are fobbing him off....
I have this exact problem. Same age and model as your friend. I've learnt to drive around the problem but if there's a fix I'd love to know it!
ginge
Alwight! It was you that told me the asbestos thing. Don't have it in the new one though
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