X5 3.0D opinions please
Discussion
Hi Guys,
Just popped in from the Porsche forum......
Other than my Stuttgart playthings, i have a Merc C32 AMG which i want to change to an X5 30d.
First question is fuel economy, i know that just making the jump from petrol to diesel will make a big difference, but bearing in mind that this car is probably the wrong side of 2t, does that cancel out any ideas i have of good fuel economy ??
Secondly, i've read that it is now available with a 6 speed manual aswell as 6 speed auto. What works best for this type of car ???
Cheers
G.
Just popped in from the Porsche forum......
Other than my Stuttgart playthings, i have a Merc C32 AMG which i want to change to an X5 30d.
First question is fuel economy, i know that just making the jump from petrol to diesel will make a big difference, but bearing in mind that this car is probably the wrong side of 2t, does that cancel out any ideas i have of good fuel economy ??
Secondly, i've read that it is now available with a 6 speed manual aswell as 6 speed auto. What works best for this type of car ???
Cheers
G.
I owned one ( and the 4.4 V8 ) .
Fantastic cars.
Handling is very good. The facelift versions have a much nicer engine than the originals.
Service from dealers is very good. You can buy a service pack from new which covers all service costs for 3 years for a one off payment of £700 ( I think ) .
I can honestly say that it is one of the best cars I have ever owned.
The latest diesel version is good enough to make a petrol pointless ( unless its a 4.8is M spec with a nascar roar ! )
Try one. For me, it edges the Cayenne because it handles as well but is more economical. Expect high 20's in mpg.
And don't , don't get a manual. They are residuals suicide - everyone wants an auto.
Fantastic cars.
Handling is very good. The facelift versions have a much nicer engine than the originals.
Service from dealers is very good. You can buy a service pack from new which covers all service costs for 3 years for a one off payment of £700 ( I think ) .
I can honestly say that it is one of the best cars I have ever owned.
The latest diesel version is good enough to make a petrol pointless ( unless its a 4.8is M spec with a nascar roar ! )
Try one. For me, it edges the Cayenne because it handles as well but is more economical. Expect high 20's in mpg.
And don't , don't get a manual. They are residuals suicide - everyone wants an auto.
toppstuff said:
Service from dealers is very good. You can buy a service pack from new which covers all service costs for 3 years for a one off payment of £700 ( I think ) .
afraid not mate...
toppstuff said:
I can honestly say that it is one of the best cars I have ever owned.
best demo i have ever had thepleasure of driving..
toppstuff said:
The latest diesel version is good enough to make a petrol pointless
yes it is 110%
toppstuff said:
Try one. For me, it edges the Cayenne because it handles as well but is more economical. Expect high 20's in mpg.
high 20 as an average mid 30's on a run
toppstuff said:
And don't , don't get a manual. They are residuals suicide - everyone wants an auto.
ABSO
INGLUTLEY.... plus they drive hideously...I've got one of the new facelifted 3.0d X5....black sport with black leather...
to answer your questions:
economy: ours is driven quite hard, motorway, school runs and commuting.... we've not reset the first of the trip computers, and it reads 26.9mpg, which is probably for the first 8k miles.... if you want to tickle it along with sub 75mph cruising then expect 32+ with ease
I've no idea what the six speed manual is like, but am very impressed with the auto, BMW seem to have got this right at last. I suspect you should consider the ratio's like a 5 speed though as first gear is only practically used for knocking down small buildings or scaling the cairngorms.
But the auto is cracking.... it is a good match to the torque of the diesel and its brain is smart enough not to do any silly changes in mid-corner hooning. I'd love someone to do a side to side comparison, but after test driving a cayenne S back to back with our X5, our local dealer agreed that from 50-70 the X5 picked up quicker and felt more urgent... maybe a product of the torque and turbo's giving the impression of speed but if anyone has any in gear/kickdown numbers for these two then it would be interesting....
As far as tractability is concerned, its diffcult to say. Certainly the standard tyres have more of a road tread than off-road, but last weekend we were over in some fields, with them being pretty waterlogged the X-Drive and sheer size (295's) made it easier to get across than my mates disco which was getting bogged down.... although I wouldn't trust them on wet grass and would recomend something with a chunkier tread for real off-road.
My only word would be to test drive a sport and an SE. our local dealer and let me out in his less desirable SE, with normal wheels, soft suspension and fat seats it was a more of a limo..... although its not as good on the bends, the sport can be a bit choppy if you live out in the sticks on bouncy roads.
Its a great motor
to answer your questions:
economy: ours is driven quite hard, motorway, school runs and commuting.... we've not reset the first of the trip computers, and it reads 26.9mpg, which is probably for the first 8k miles.... if you want to tickle it along with sub 75mph cruising then expect 32+ with ease
I've no idea what the six speed manual is like, but am very impressed with the auto, BMW seem to have got this right at last. I suspect you should consider the ratio's like a 5 speed though as first gear is only practically used for knocking down small buildings or scaling the cairngorms.
But the auto is cracking.... it is a good match to the torque of the diesel and its brain is smart enough not to do any silly changes in mid-corner hooning. I'd love someone to do a side to side comparison, but after test driving a cayenne S back to back with our X5, our local dealer agreed that from 50-70 the X5 picked up quicker and felt more urgent... maybe a product of the torque and turbo's giving the impression of speed but if anyone has any in gear/kickdown numbers for these two then it would be interesting....
As far as tractability is concerned, its diffcult to say. Certainly the standard tyres have more of a road tread than off-road, but last weekend we were over in some fields, with them being pretty waterlogged the X-Drive and sheer size (295's) made it easier to get across than my mates disco which was getting bogged down.... although I wouldn't trust them on wet grass and would recomend something with a chunkier tread for real off-road.
My only word would be to test drive a sport and an SE. our local dealer and let me out in his less desirable SE, with normal wheels, soft suspension and fat seats it was a more of a limo..... although its not as good on the bends, the sport can be a bit choppy if you live out in the sticks on bouncy roads.
Its a great motor
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