New to me rx8 issues, need some advice
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Hi
I picked up an RX8 this weekend but I'm having some issues.
It starts reliably from cold but if I then stop off somewhere then try to start it again it wont start and I have to faff around to get it to start. I will turn it over with the acceslerator on the floor for 10 seconds, then 10 seconds with it up etc then after a few tries it starts.
Once the car is going the power delivery is very smooth (not lumpy) and the car feels great.
Having a read over RX8 owners club, some people are saying this can be the coils / plugs / HT leads or starter motor. I could go down the route of buying these in the hope they might fix it but I'm wary as I have only just bought the car.
If it were you, would you:
a) replace those parts and see what happens
b) take the car back to the dealer (its got a 3 month warranty)
c) take it to mazda and get them to diagnose the fault first then go back to the dealer with proof of an issue.
I know the cars are a bit delicate at times with flooding etc so I dont want the dealer to try and fob me off with this.
What would you do? I'm leaning towards booking it in for a service at mazda and seeing if they can track down the issue?
-Paul
I picked up an RX8 this weekend but I'm having some issues.
It starts reliably from cold but if I then stop off somewhere then try to start it again it wont start and I have to faff around to get it to start. I will turn it over with the acceslerator on the floor for 10 seconds, then 10 seconds with it up etc then after a few tries it starts.
Once the car is going the power delivery is very smooth (not lumpy) and the car feels great.
Having a read over RX8 owners club, some people are saying this can be the coils / plugs / HT leads or starter motor. I could go down the route of buying these in the hope they might fix it but I'm wary as I have only just bought the car.
If it were you, would you:
a) replace those parts and see what happens
b) take the car back to the dealer (its got a 3 month warranty)
c) take it to mazda and get them to diagnose the fault first then go back to the dealer with proof of an issue.
I know the cars are a bit delicate at times with flooding etc so I dont want the dealer to try and fob me off with this.
What would you do? I'm leaning towards booking it in for a service at mazda and seeing if they can track down the issue?
-Paul
I have booked it in to the local Mazda dealership for an 'investigation'.
I have now read up quite a bit on the issue and my gut feeling is that it is an ignition issue of some kind (plugs / leads / starter motor). My main reasoning being that once its started it goes like a rocket, accelleration is smooth all the way up to the beep at 9k/rpm. I'm no expert but I would imagine if the engine was on its way out that there would be other symptoms.
I will find out tomorrow morning when I take it in to Mazda
I have now read up quite a bit on the issue and my gut feeling is that it is an ignition issue of some kind (plugs / leads / starter motor). My main reasoning being that once its started it goes like a rocket, accelleration is smooth all the way up to the beep at 9k/rpm. I'm no expert but I would imagine if the engine was on its way out that there would be other symptoms.
I will find out tomorrow morning when I take it in to Mazda
PaulB81 said:
I'm no expert but I would imagine if the engine was on its way out that there would be other symptoms.
Someone in the owners club didn't realise he'd got a problem with his 231 until a 192 out-dragged him down a slip road on an owners club run - get it tested would be my advice!Later models are fitted with an uprated starter motor, which Mazda used to fit to older cars with warm starting issues. If your car does have a failing engine, and it has the older starter motor, fitting the new one is likely to conceal the problem long enough for the car to be out of warranty by the time it really becomes a problem...
If compression is healthy, a new starter motor may be the correct solution.
If compression is healthy, a new starter motor may be the correct solution.
Just got back from Mazda. They only had it for about 40 mins and came back and said they think its the coils but they are going to do a full compression test tomorrow.
Got to drop it in at 9:30 and they want it all day.
Fingers crossed it is the coil packs and not the engine being f****d !!
Got to drop it in at 9:30 and they want it all day.
Fingers crossed it is the coil packs and not the engine being f****d !!
PaulB81 said:
Just got back from Mazda. They only had it for about 40 mins and came back and said they think its the coils but they are going to do a full compression test tomorrow.
Got to drop it in at 9:30 and they want it all day.
Fingers crossed it is the coil packs and not the engine being f****d !!
Coils are quite common.. Might aswell get the leads done at the same time, and plugs if you can push to it.Got to drop it in at 9:30 and they want it all day.
Fingers crossed it is the coil packs and not the engine being f****d !!
Coils; £94+VAT (Each)
Plugs; £150+VAT (Set)
Leads; £60+VAT
VERY BAD NEWS from Mazda
Engine is showing very low compression
2 of the coils are f
ked
The cat is non standard
The plugs are non standard
The leads are non standard
The starter motor is the old one and needs replacing
Basically, its totally fked.
Looks like someone has previously tried to work around the warm start issue by replacing all of the above on the cheap but it hasnt fixed it so they chopped it in. Not sure where the dealer I bought from got it from.
Just called the dealer I bought it from but basically it will cost more than I paid for the car to put that lot right.
Not a happy chappy. Ideally, I want my money back but lets see what the dealer says.
Engine is showing very low compression
2 of the coils are f
kedThe cat is non standard
The plugs are non standard
The leads are non standard
The starter motor is the old one and needs replacing
Basically, its totally f
ked.Looks like someone has previously tried to work around the warm start issue by replacing all of the above on the cheap but it hasnt fixed it so they chopped it in. Not sure where the dealer I bought from got it from.
Just called the dealer I bought it from but basically it will cost more than I paid for the car to put that lot right.
Not a happy chappy. Ideally, I want my money back but lets see what the dealer says.
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