RE: Nissan jumps on hybrid bandwagon

RE: Nissan jumps on hybrid bandwagon

Wednesday 13th December 2006

Nissan jumps on hybrid bandwagon

'We'll make our own hybrid by 2010'


Nissan Pivo concept: electrically powered
Nissan Pivo concept: electrically powered
Nissan, which has until now stayed aloof from the whole hybrid car business, has been forced by customer pressure and increasingly strict emissions legislation to jump on the bandwagon.

In its "Green Programme 2010" initiative, which it announced earlier this week,  the company said it'll develop powertrains that support the development of a so-called “three-litre car” -- a car that will travel 100 kilometres using three litres of petrol, about 80mpg. The company reckons it can do this by 2010.

How will it do that? Nissan said it'll "invest substantially in all aspects of electric vehicle technology", leading with the development of a hybrid

vehicle with a 2010 launch target. In 2007, Nissan is to introduce its first hybrid car – the US market Altima sedan – which uses a hybrid system developed by Toyota.

Yet only just over a year ago, Nissan boss Carlos Ghosn said that customers demand for hybrid cars was “anecdotal” and that he wasn't convinced people consumers actually wanted them as opposed to other types of more fuel-efficient cars.

Legislation is a primary driver. California's laws require carmakers to cut greenhouse gas emissions by 25 per cent by 2020, and it's already sued six major carmakers over their products' emissions.

Meanwhile Japan is about to bring in the strictest fuel efficiency rules in the world. They mandate carmakers to cut consumption by 20 per cent from 2005 levels by 2016.

Demand for these things -- which are fuel-efficient only at the point of use, not when it comes to the supply and manufacturing chain, according to at least one report -- is coming from the USA, where fuel efficiency is all the rage.

And Nissan still has some catching up to do in this department. Let's hope it doesn't distract the company from building on some of the great sports cars it's made over the years.

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freddytin

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1,184 posts

233 months

Wednesday 13th December 2006
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Lets hope they do not use the i-pod design team for their next frugal venture.

mafioso

2,370 posts

220 months

Wednesday 13th December 2006
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Why is it sideways!?

bob1179

14,112 posts

215 months

Wednesday 13th December 2006
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Erm...

I'm not sure.

Any chance they can make it look a little less, well, crappy?

ninjaboy

2,525 posts

256 months

Wednesday 13th December 2006
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how can governments come up with laws like cut fuel use by 20% that seems like and imposible target if you keep the products useable. Could be the end of the type R's and GTR's of this world to replaced by numpty wagons like that THING, if car makers try and sell things like that i wont be spending my hard earned on it for sure

alfanatic

9,339 posts

225 months

Wednesday 13th December 2006
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I suppose that the apparent degree markings on the bottom of the, um, occupant pod suggest that the pod bit can swivel. I do not know why this would be useful but then I've never really understood the attraction of a sunroof either so what do I know?

I must say though that as an example of a fuel efficient vehicle, the podded thingy in the picture does appear to present some fundamental aerodynamic challenges, not to mention the power wasted when the occupants decide to face sideways or backwards.

fury1630

393 posts

233 months

Wednesday 13th December 2006
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"fuel-efficient only at the point of use, not when it comes to the supply and manufacturing chain"

Which is of course the entire folly of the "eco car". All cars pollute more during manufacture than they ever do during use, therefore a truly eco friendly car is an old one carefully maintained & refurbished as required. But don't expect to see that in Government policy as it doesn't put big bucks in the pockets of multi-national corporations. Want an eco-friendly sports car? by a restored E-type.

Some years ago (digging deep into memory here so I stand to be corrected) British Leyland - told you it was long ago - did a study & found they produced 250 tons of rubbish for every car they produced (didn't say if they included the 1 ton car in that - tee hee). I don't suppost it's a lot different today if you include all the coffee cups, printed memos, advetising blurb, packaging etc.

bob1179

14,112 posts

215 months

Wednesday 13th December 2006
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alfanatic said:
I suppose that the apparent degree markings on the bottom of the, um, occupant pod suggest that the pod bit can swivel. I do not know why this would be useful but then I've never really understood the attraction of a sunroof either so what do I know?

I must say though that as an example of a fuel efficient vehicle, the podded thingy in the picture does appear to present some fundamental aerodynamic challenges, not to mention the power wasted when the occupants decide to face sideways or backwards.


You could use the swivelling 'Occupant pod' for many different things. I'm just not sure what they are yet.

Any suggestions?

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freddytin

Original Poster:

1,184 posts

233 months

Wednesday 13th December 2006
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bob1179 said:
alfanatic said:
I suppose that the apparent degree markings on the bottom of the, um, occupant pod suggest that the pod bit can swivel. I do not know why this would be useful but then I've never really understood the attraction of a sunroof either so what do I know?

I must say though that as an example of a fuel efficient vehicle, the podded thingy in the picture does appear to present some fundamental aerodynamic challenges, not to mention the power wasted when the occupants decide to face sideways or backwards.


You could use the swivelling 'Occupant pod' for many different things. I'm just not sure what they are yet.

Any suggestions?

Admiring the well styled cars next to you at traffic lights, seconds prior to them blowing you into the weeds when the flag drops.

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bob1179

14,112 posts

215 months

Wednesday 13th December 2006
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freddytin said:
bob1179 said:
alfanatic said:
I suppose that the apparent degree markings on the bottom of the, um, occupant pod suggest that the pod bit can swivel. I do not know why this would be useful but then I've never really understood the attraction of a sunroof either so what do I know?

I must say though that as an example of a fuel efficient vehicle, the podded thingy in the picture does appear to present some fundamental aerodynamic challenges, not to mention the power wasted when the occupants decide to face sideways or backwards.


You could use the swivelling 'Occupant pod' for many different things. I'm just not sure what they are yet.

Any suggestions?

Admiring the well styled cars next to you at traffic lights, seconds prior to them blowing you into the weeds when the flag drops.

I can just see it:

Maybe these cars are robotic (being Japanese) and as the car makes its own way along, the pod thingy just revolves slowly around giving you a sort of panoramic view of the traffic jam you're in (have you seen the grid lock in Tokyo?)

Or am i just talking bollox?

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gjohnsto

972 posts

263 months

Wednesday 13th December 2006
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I'm guessing this thing cuts fuel use by making the owner too embarassed to drive it anywhere.

sprinter885

11,550 posts

233 months

Wednesday 13th December 2006
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gjohnsto said:
I'm guessing this thing cuts fuel use by making the owner too embarassed to drive it anywhere.


Isn't it designed for a new breed of motoring fish ???

oppressed mass

217 posts

289 months

Wednesday 13th December 2006
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nono

Please can we have imperial gallons? the MPG target (using Imp gallons) is 94. 80 is about right for US gallons...not that it really matters as it looks like they are banking on recycling the London Eye for their production run...

nerd

InRong Ghia

100 posts

290 months

Wednesday 13th December 2006
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It does not look much better with the "cabin" facing "forwards" - This is apparently so that you never have to reverse.... At least the boxster was a decent concept..

www.gizmag.com/go/4683/

pena

317 posts

267 months

Wednesday 13th December 2006
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some seriously wrong motors on that website!!! ewww!!
www.gizmag.co.uk/go/4032/gallery/

Bat-mobile anyone?



Edited by pena on Wednesday 13th December 13:30

Road_Terrorist

5,591 posts

248 months

Wednesday 13th December 2006
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pena said:
some seriously wrong motors on that website!!! ewww!!
www.gizmag.co.uk/go/4032/gallery/

Bat-mobile anyone?


Have you been living under a rock for the past few years? How can you not have heard of the Maybach Excelero?

It's even in Jay Zs new music video for god sakes along with just about every car show and magazine since it was released.

scoobiewrx

4,863 posts

232 months

Wednesday 13th December 2006
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bob1179 said:
alfanatic said:
I suppose that the apparent degree markings on the bottom of the, um, occupant pod suggest that the pod bit can swivel. I do not know why this would be useful but then I've never really understood the attraction of a sunroof either so what do I know?

I must say though that as an example of a fuel efficient vehicle, the podded thingy in the picture does appear to present some fundamental aerodynamic challenges, not to mention the power wasted when the occupants decide to face sideways or backwards.


You could use the swivelling 'Occupant pod' for many different things. I'm just not sure what they are yet.

Any suggestions?

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Yeah How about..... Giant Tombola or Extra Large Bingo Balls Jiggler!!
hehe spin hehe

timberwolf

5,374 posts

224 months

Wednesday 13th December 2006
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scoobiewrx said:
Yeah How about..... Giant Tombola or Extra Large Bingo Balls Jiggler!


Given the naming conventions of Japanese cars, I wouldn't be too surprised to find it being called that if it ever reached market.

kimz

225 posts

220 months

Wednesday 13th December 2006
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Holy smoke... and I thought the multipla was fugly vomit

Best keep the kids away from the controls.. could be interesting tazzing up the M1 and suddenly find yerself facing the wrong way..

aston67

872 posts

236 months

Wednesday 13th December 2006
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I would rather ride a horse to move than drive THAT "thing"

No one can win an election to force on us shit like that... no way!

kermitman

4,918 posts

215 months

Wednesday 13th December 2006
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bob1179 said:


You could use the swivelling 'Occupant pod' for many different things. I'm just not sure what they are yet.

Any suggestions?

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youve driven by a nice young lady and want a second look?