Discussion
Been looking at Supra and an RX7 this weekend, the more I think about it the more I'm not to sure.
We would be using it as a daily driver, the Supra is a manual turbo, with a Veilside kit. I would be changing the rear spoiler as I hate the one it comes with. The other is a widebody RX7 tuned by R-Magic.
Not sure what to do, I know the Supra would be fine as a daily driver, but the RX7 is awesome. My main worry is Mrs GMan will be driving it mostly, and I don't know if the RX7 would be a bit of a handfull for her.
I was also looking at a Endless tuned 900bhp Supra, what a car.
We would be using it as a daily driver, the Supra is a manual turbo, with a Veilside kit. I would be changing the rear spoiler as I hate the one it comes with. The other is a widebody RX7 tuned by R-Magic.
Not sure what to do, I know the Supra would be fine as a daily driver, but the RX7 is awesome. My main worry is Mrs GMan will be driving it mostly, and I don't know if the RX7 would be a bit of a handfull for her.
I was also looking at a Endless tuned 900bhp Supra, what a car.
The GMan said:
Been looking at Supra and an RX7 this weekend, the more I think about it the more I'm not to sure.
We would be using it as a daily driver, the Supra is a manual turbo, with a Veilside kit. I would be changing the rear spoiler as I hate the one it comes with. The other is a widebody RX7 tuned by R-Magic.
Not sure what to do, I know the Supra would be fine as a daily driver, but the RX7 is awesome. My main worry is Mrs GMan will be driving it mostly, and I don't know if the RX7 would be a bit of a handfull for her.
I was also looking at a Endless tuned 900bhp Supra, what a car.
We would be using it as a daily driver, the Supra is a manual turbo, with a Veilside kit. I would be changing the rear spoiler as I hate the one it comes with. The other is a widebody RX7 tuned by R-Magic.
Not sure what to do, I know the Supra would be fine as a daily driver, but the RX7 is awesome. My main worry is Mrs GMan will be driving it mostly, and I don't know if the RX7 would be a bit of a handfull for her.
I was also looking at a Endless tuned 900bhp Supra, what a car.
If the rx still on twins or a single conversion?
All depends on tuning BUT a single will be slightly more predictable in damp conditions. Boost can always be turned down on a single too if you're worried about the power being too much. A single will also give much better mpg on most journies (really good on motorways).
It's still a twin turbo.
It's the R-Magic tuned one here.
www.jm-imports.co.uk
It's the R-Magic tuned one here.
www.jm-imports.co.uk
Edited by The GMan on Monday 20th November 12:35
The GMan said:
It's still a twin turbo.
Twins are more driveable when not thrashing it as you have boost from just over 2k rpm. You don't need to rev to get it awake BUT you have the transition where the 2nd turbo comes online - a brief drop in boost followed by the kick of the second turbo. If it comes online while cornering it sometimes catches people out - you tend to have buried the throttle at the transition and, in the wet, it will break away. If you're not expecting it to step out then you'll have a job to catch it.
Seems to claim a few cars each year under relatively sedate driving.
On the other hand a reasonable amount of respect will mean no problems are encountered.
Only real way to decide is to drive them as close to back-to-back as possible and go from there.
Never driven a Supra but I suspect it's an easier car to drive but just as likely to stick you through a hedge if you abuse it!
I've driven a Supra but not an RX7.
I don't know why but I feel the Supra is probably going to be better as a daily driver.
But this RX7 has really got me thinking.
Mrs GMan loved both cars, but she looked tiny sitting in Supra, and preffered the overall size and looks of the RX7. I think I'm just nervous about taking the plunge and having another modded car on our drive.
As I mentioned before the Supra has a few engine mods with the Veilside kit, and I feel a bit more comfortable buying this.
But this RX7, I totally love it.
I don't know why but I feel the Supra is probably going to be better as a daily driver.
But this RX7 has really got me thinking.
Mrs GMan loved both cars, but she looked tiny sitting in Supra, and preffered the overall size and looks of the RX7. I think I'm just nervous about taking the plunge and having another modded car on our drive.
As I mentioned before the Supra has a few engine mods with the Veilside kit, and I feel a bit more comfortable buying this.
But this RX7, I totally love it.
The GMan said:
I've driven a Supra but not an RX7.
I don't know why but I feel the Supra is probably going to be better as a daily driver.
But this RX7 has really got me thinking.
Mrs GMan loved both cars, but she looked tiny sitting in Supra, and preffered the overall size and looks of the RX7. I think I'm just nervous about taking the plunge and having another modded car on our drive.
As I mentioned before the Supra has a few engine mods with the Veilside kit, and I feel a bit more comfortable buying this.
But this RX7, I totally love it.
I don't know why but I feel the Supra is probably going to be better as a daily driver.
But this RX7 has really got me thinking.
Mrs GMan loved both cars, but she looked tiny sitting in Supra, and preffered the overall size and looks of the RX7. I think I'm just nervous about taking the plunge and having another modded car on our drive.
As I mentioned before the Supra has a few engine mods with the Veilside kit, and I feel a bit more comfortable buying this.
But this RX7, I totally love it.
Tough call then. For a daily I'd actually go with as close to unmodded on the RX-7 - Have the 'rats nest' boost control stuff replaced and an uprated rad put in. Possibly ass the Apexi ECU and have it mapped, no power gains but better economy and response.
Well looked after the RX will be as reliable as the Supra.
Go with your heart
iaint said:
The GMan said:
I've driven a Supra but not an RX7.
I don't know why but I feel the Supra is probably going to be better as a daily driver.
But this RX7 has really got me thinking.
Mrs GMan loved both cars, but she looked tiny sitting in Supra, and preffered the overall size and looks of the RX7. I think I'm just nervous about taking the plunge and having another modded car on our drive.
As I mentioned before the Supra has a few engine mods with the Veilside kit, and I feel a bit more comfortable buying this.
But this RX7, I totally love it.
I don't know why but I feel the Supra is probably going to be better as a daily driver.
But this RX7 has really got me thinking.
Mrs GMan loved both cars, but she looked tiny sitting in Supra, and preffered the overall size and looks of the RX7. I think I'm just nervous about taking the plunge and having another modded car on our drive.
As I mentioned before the Supra has a few engine mods with the Veilside kit, and I feel a bit more comfortable buying this.
But this RX7, I totally love it.
Tough call then. For a daily I'd actually go with as close to unmodded on the RX-7 - Have the 'rats nest' boost control stuff replaced and an uprated rad put in. Possibly ass the Apexi ECU and have it mapped, no power gains but better economy and response.
Well looked after the RX will be as reliable as the Supra.
Go with your heart
Did you have a look at the RX7 on the web site?
The GMan said:
iaint said:
The GMan said:
I've driven a Supra but not an RX7.
I don't know why but I feel the Supra is probably going to be better as a daily driver.
But this RX7 has really got me thinking.
Mrs GMan loved both cars, but she looked tiny sitting in Supra, and preffered the overall size and looks of the RX7. I think I'm just nervous about taking the plunge and having another modded car on our drive.
As I mentioned before the Supra has a few engine mods with the Veilside kit, and I feel a bit more comfortable buying this.
But this RX7, I totally love it.
I don't know why but I feel the Supra is probably going to be better as a daily driver.
But this RX7 has really got me thinking.
Mrs GMan loved both cars, but she looked tiny sitting in Supra, and preffered the overall size and looks of the RX7. I think I'm just nervous about taking the plunge and having another modded car on our drive.
As I mentioned before the Supra has a few engine mods with the Veilside kit, and I feel a bit more comfortable buying this.
But this RX7, I totally love it.
Tough call then. For a daily I'd actually go with as close to unmodded on the RX-7 - Have the 'rats nest' boost control stuff replaced and an uprated rad put in. Possibly ass the Apexi ECU and have it mapped, no power gains but better economy and response.
Well looked after the RX will be as reliable as the Supra.
Go with your heart
Did you have a look at the RX7 on the web site?
Some very tasteful mods on that. Looks stunning.
BUT...
- rebuild - I'd want to know what proof there is of it and how long ago it was.
- 2-way LSD - conna be noisy and very clunky at low speed. Might be a bit unfriendly off the track.
- clutch will be heavy for journies in traffic.
- a lot of money!
You'd pick up a car with a brand new rebuild for £8k. Or a 6k car, rebuild it, uprate ecu and rad, poss intercooler. make it look how you like and have change from 11k...
iaint said:
The GMan said:
iaint said:
The GMan said:
I've driven a Supra but not an RX7.
I don't know why but I feel the Supra is probably going to be better as a daily driver.
But this RX7 has really got me thinking.
Mrs GMan loved both cars, but she looked tiny sitting in Supra, and preffered the overall size and looks of the RX7. I think I'm just nervous about taking the plunge and having another modded car on our drive.
As I mentioned before the Supra has a few engine mods with the Veilside kit, and I feel a bit more comfortable buying this.
But this RX7, I totally love it.
I don't know why but I feel the Supra is probably going to be better as a daily driver.
But this RX7 has really got me thinking.
Mrs GMan loved both cars, but she looked tiny sitting in Supra, and preffered the overall size and looks of the RX7. I think I'm just nervous about taking the plunge and having another modded car on our drive.
As I mentioned before the Supra has a few engine mods with the Veilside kit, and I feel a bit more comfortable buying this.
But this RX7, I totally love it.
Tough call then. For a daily I'd actually go with as close to unmodded on the RX-7 - Have the 'rats nest' boost control stuff replaced and an uprated rad put in. Possibly ass the Apexi ECU and have it mapped, no power gains but better economy and response.
Well looked after the RX will be as reliable as the Supra.
Go with your heart
Did you have a look at the RX7 on the web site?
Some very tasteful mods on that. Looks stunning.
BUT...
- rebuild - I'd want to know what proof there is of it and how long ago it was.
- 2-way LSD - conna be noisy and very clunky at low speed. Might be a bit unfriendly off the track.
- clutch will be heavy for journies in traffic.
- a lot of money!
You'd pick up a car with a brand new rebuild for £8k. Or a 6k car, rebuild it, uprate ecu and rad, poss intercooler. make it look how you like and have change from 11k...
To be honest, that's what I have been thinking.
The 2 way LSD and clutch could be a nightmare for daily running, and I think Mrs GMan would start to get well p***ed off, it's why she hates driving the Skyline.
Proof is being provided of the rebuild and WGT are looking over the car and will be remapping it once it arrives in the UK. I'm happy to pay top dollar as long as I know it is a good motor, but I'm not sure on RX7's, from what I have seen advertised it seems a lot of money, but it was an R-Magic demo car and the spec is very good.
But as a daily car?? My heart says yes, but my head says Supra.
The GMan said:
iaint said:
The GMan said:
iaint said:
The GMan said:
I've driven a Supra but not an RX7.
I don't know why but I feel the Supra is probably going to be better as a daily driver.
But this RX7 has really got me thinking.
Mrs GMan loved both cars, but she looked tiny sitting in Supra, and preffered the overall size and looks of the RX7. I think I'm just nervous about taking the plunge and having another modded car on our drive.
As I mentioned before the Supra has a few engine mods with the Veilside kit, and I feel a bit more comfortable buying this.
But this RX7, I totally love it.
I don't know why but I feel the Supra is probably going to be better as a daily driver.
But this RX7 has really got me thinking.
Mrs GMan loved both cars, but she looked tiny sitting in Supra, and preffered the overall size and looks of the RX7. I think I'm just nervous about taking the plunge and having another modded car on our drive.
As I mentioned before the Supra has a few engine mods with the Veilside kit, and I feel a bit more comfortable buying this.
But this RX7, I totally love it.
Tough call then. For a daily I'd actually go with as close to unmodded on the RX-7 - Have the 'rats nest' boost control stuff replaced and an uprated rad put in. Possibly ass the Apexi ECU and have it mapped, no power gains but better economy and response.
Well looked after the RX will be as reliable as the Supra.
Go with your heart
Did you have a look at the RX7 on the web site?
Some very tasteful mods on that. Looks stunning.
BUT...
- rebuild - I'd want to know what proof there is of it and how long ago it was.
- 2-way LSD - conna be noisy and very clunky at low speed. Might be a bit unfriendly off the track.
- clutch will be heavy for journies in traffic.
- a lot of money!
You'd pick up a car with a brand new rebuild for £8k. Or a 6k car, rebuild it, uprate ecu and rad, poss intercooler. make it look how you like and have change from 11k...
To be honest, that's what I have been thinking.
The 2 way LSD and clutch could be a nightmare for daily running, and I think Mrs GMan would start to get well p***ed off, it's why she hates driving the Skyline.
Proof is being provided of the rebuild and WGT are looking over the car and will be remapping it once it arrives in the UK. I'm happy to pay top dollar as long as I know it is a good motor, but I'm not sure on RX7's, from what I have seen advertised it seems a lot of money, but it was an R-Magic demo car and the spec is very good.
But as a daily car?? My heart says yes, but my head says Supra.
WGT (and Pip who runs it) are about as good as it gets... if he gives the car a clean bill of health then it's a good 'un.
The diff it an easy swap and you would be able to get top money for the 2-way in exchange for either a low miler or recon. 1.5 way is totally usable on the road though.
I think 14k for this car, if it's in good nick, isn't too bad but is maybe 2k overpriced in the current market. I'd consider making an offer rather than asking price. If you can't get a deal you're happy with then walk away. or buy the Supra
iaint said:
The GMan said:
iaint said:
The GMan said:
iaint said:
The GMan said:
I've driven a Supra but not an RX7.
I don't know why but I feel the Supra is probably going to be better as a daily driver.
But this RX7 has really got me thinking.
Mrs GMan loved both cars, but she looked tiny sitting in Supra, and preffered the overall size and looks of the RX7. I think I'm just nervous about taking the plunge and having another modded car on our drive.
As I mentioned before the Supra has a few engine mods with the Veilside kit, and I feel a bit more comfortable buying this.
But this RX7, I totally love it.
I don't know why but I feel the Supra is probably going to be better as a daily driver.
But this RX7 has really got me thinking.
Mrs GMan loved both cars, but she looked tiny sitting in Supra, and preffered the overall size and looks of the RX7. I think I'm just nervous about taking the plunge and having another modded car on our drive.
As I mentioned before the Supra has a few engine mods with the Veilside kit, and I feel a bit more comfortable buying this.
But this RX7, I totally love it.
Tough call then. For a daily I'd actually go with as close to unmodded on the RX-7 - Have the 'rats nest' boost control stuff replaced and an uprated rad put in. Possibly ass the Apexi ECU and have it mapped, no power gains but better economy and response.
Well looked after the RX will be as reliable as the Supra.
Go with your heart
Did you have a look at the RX7 on the web site?
Some very tasteful mods on that. Looks stunning.
BUT...
- rebuild - I'd want to know what proof there is of it and how long ago it was.
- 2-way LSD - conna be noisy and very clunky at low speed. Might be a bit unfriendly off the track.
- clutch will be heavy for journies in traffic.
- a lot of money!
You'd pick up a car with a brand new rebuild for £8k. Or a 6k car, rebuild it, uprate ecu and rad, poss intercooler. make it look how you like and have change from 11k...
To be honest, that's what I have been thinking.
The 2 way LSD and clutch could be a nightmare for daily running, and I think Mrs GMan would start to get well p***ed off, it's why she hates driving the Skyline.
Proof is being provided of the rebuild and WGT are looking over the car and will be remapping it once it arrives in the UK. I'm happy to pay top dollar as long as I know it is a good motor, but I'm not sure on RX7's, from what I have seen advertised it seems a lot of money, but it was an R-Magic demo car and the spec is very good.
But as a daily car?? My heart says yes, but my head says Supra.
WGT (and Pip who runs it) are about as good as it gets... if he gives the car a clean bill of health then it's a good 'un.
The diff it an easy swap and you would be able to get top money for the 2-way in exchange for either a low miler or recon. 1.5 way is totally usable on the road though.
I think 14k for this car, if it's in good nick, isn't too bad but is maybe 2k overpriced in the current market. I'd consider making an offer rather than asking price. If you can't get a deal you're happy with then walk away. or buy the Supra
Jurgen(guy who runs jm-imports and is a really nice bloke when I met him on Saturday)mentioned Pip to me, he gets him to work on all the RX7's he brings in. The white RX7 that Jurgen is running at the moment is fantastic and WGT carried out the work on that, he also won best mazda for an RX7 in Japanese Performance this month.
I know what you mean about the size of the Supra, Mrs GMan sat in one he had in stock and looked tiny.
There was an Endless tuned Supra in running 900BHP, that he is selling it was awesome.
I went to have a look at a 98 Sti Type R V-Ltd with Mrs GMan on Saturday. It was in fantastic condition. She really liked it and reckons she can see herself driving that more than an RX7 or Supra.
Here is the spec:
2 Doors, Coupe, Blue Metallic. Air-Conditioning, Alarm, Central Door Locking, Electric Adjustable Mirror, Immobilizer, CD. apexi power fc and commander with apexi boost control kit (professionally mapped by Andy Forrest), TD05/06 hybrid turbo with -31 actuator740cc nismo injectors, parallel fuel rails, fuelab uprated fuel pressure regulator, hks intake system, full 3" revolution exhaust system, H&S de cat down pipehybrid oil breather system, magnex tubular exhaust manifold and up pipe(heat wrapped), nx intercooler spray kit (using c02), sti 8 top mount intercooler (a lot larger than standard), P1 viscous centre diff instead of the standard plated one (50/50 split), momo steering wheel with snap off boss, defi fuel pressure, oil pressure, boost, oil temp gauges with control unitbosch motorsport fuel pump, version 6 front bumper with p1 front splitter, version 6 grill, morrette headlight conversion, larger bonnet scoopall clear lights, sti 6 rear spoiler, dba grooved discs, mintex 1155 pads, white pff7 wheels with new toyo proxes, standard type r parts group N gearbox, four pot front brakes, 2 pot rear brakes, uprated drive shaftslsd front and rear diffs, blueprinted engine.
Not sure what it's running as the garage selling it, is selling for a customer and he could not find the dyno sheet and I have not drove it yet hope to do so this week. I think with that spec it should be about 400bhp.
Got to say the car was in fantastic condition.
Here is the spec:
2 Doors, Coupe, Blue Metallic. Air-Conditioning, Alarm, Central Door Locking, Electric Adjustable Mirror, Immobilizer, CD. apexi power fc and commander with apexi boost control kit (professionally mapped by Andy Forrest), TD05/06 hybrid turbo with -31 actuator740cc nismo injectors, parallel fuel rails, fuelab uprated fuel pressure regulator, hks intake system, full 3" revolution exhaust system, H&S de cat down pipehybrid oil breather system, magnex tubular exhaust manifold and up pipe(heat wrapped), nx intercooler spray kit (using c02), sti 8 top mount intercooler (a lot larger than standard), P1 viscous centre diff instead of the standard plated one (50/50 split), momo steering wheel with snap off boss, defi fuel pressure, oil pressure, boost, oil temp gauges with control unitbosch motorsport fuel pump, version 6 front bumper with p1 front splitter, version 6 grill, morrette headlight conversion, larger bonnet scoopall clear lights, sti 6 rear spoiler, dba grooved discs, mintex 1155 pads, white pff7 wheels with new toyo proxes, standard type r parts group N gearbox, four pot front brakes, 2 pot rear brakes, uprated drive shaftslsd front and rear diffs, blueprinted engine.
Not sure what it's running as the garage selling it, is selling for a customer and he could not find the dyno sheet and I have not drove it yet hope to do so this week. I think with that spec it should be about 400bhp.
Got to say the car was in fantastic condition.
Edited by The GMan on Tuesday 28th November 17:30
The GMan said:
I went to have a look at a 98 Sti Type R V-Ltd with Mrs GMan on Saturday. It was in fantastic condition. She really liked it and reckons she can see herself driving that more than an RX7 or Supra.
Here is the spec:
2 Doors, Coupe, Blue Metallic. Air-Conditioning, Alarm, Central Door Locking, Electric Adjustable Mirror, Immobilizer, CD. apexi power fc and commander with apexi boost control kit (professionally mapped by Andy Forrest), TD05/06 hybrid turbo with -31 actuator740cc nismo injectors, parallel fuel rails, fuelab uprated fuel pressure regulator, hks intake system, full 3" revolution exhaust system, H&S de cat down pipehybrid oil breather system, magnex tubular exhaust manifold and up pipe(heat wrapped), nx intercooler spray kit (using c02), sti 8 top mount intercooler (a lot larger than standard), P1 viscous centre diff instead of the standard plated one (50/50 split), momo steering wheel with snap off boss, defi fuel pressure, oil pressure, boost, oil temp gauges with control unitbosch motorsport fuel pump, version 6 front bumper with p1 front splitter, version 6 grill, morrette headlight conversion, larger bonnet scoopall clear lights, sti 6 rear spoiler, dba grooved discs, mintex 1155 pads, white pff7 wheels with new toyo proxes, standard type r parts group N gearbox, four pot front brakes, 2 pot rear brakes, uprated drive shaftslsd front and rear diffs, blueprinted engine.
Not sure what it's running as the garage selling it, is selling for a customer and he could not find the dyno sheet and I have not drove it yet hope to do so this week. I think with that spec it should be about 400bhp.
Got to same the car was in fantasic condition.
Here is the spec:
2 Doors, Coupe, Blue Metallic. Air-Conditioning, Alarm, Central Door Locking, Electric Adjustable Mirror, Immobilizer, CD. apexi power fc and commander with apexi boost control kit (professionally mapped by Andy Forrest), TD05/06 hybrid turbo with -31 actuator740cc nismo injectors, parallel fuel rails, fuelab uprated fuel pressure regulator, hks intake system, full 3" revolution exhaust system, H&S de cat down pipehybrid oil breather system, magnex tubular exhaust manifold and up pipe(heat wrapped), nx intercooler spray kit (using c02), sti 8 top mount intercooler (a lot larger than standard), P1 viscous centre diff instead of the standard plated one (50/50 split), momo steering wheel with snap off boss, defi fuel pressure, oil pressure, boost, oil temp gauges with control unitbosch motorsport fuel pump, version 6 front bumper with p1 front splitter, version 6 grill, morrette headlight conversion, larger bonnet scoopall clear lights, sti 6 rear spoiler, dba grooved discs, mintex 1155 pads, white pff7 wheels with new toyo proxes, standard type r parts group N gearbox, four pot front brakes, 2 pot rear brakes, uprated drive shaftslsd front and rear diffs, blueprinted engine.
Not sure what it's running as the garage selling it, is selling for a customer and he could not find the dyno sheet and I have not drove it yet hope to do so this week. I think with that spec it should be about 400bhp.
Got to same the car was in fantasic condition.
400 fly or wheels?
Sounds like an awesome spec. Should be a bt more reliable (due to age) than an older RX etc.
Butt fugly though.
iaint said:
The GMan said:
I went to have a look at a 98 Sti Type R V-Ltd with Mrs GMan on Saturday. It was in fantastic condition. She really liked it and reckons she can see herself driving that more than an RX7 or Supra.
Here is the spec:
2 Doors, Coupe, Blue Metallic. Air-Conditioning, Alarm, Central Door Locking, Electric Adjustable Mirror, Immobilizer, CD. apexi power fc and commander with apexi boost control kit (professionally mapped by Andy Forrest), TD05/06 hybrid turbo with -31 actuator740cc nismo injectors, parallel fuel rails, fuelab uprated fuel pressure regulator, hks intake system, full 3" revolution exhaust system, H&S de cat down pipehybrid oil breather system, magnex tubular exhaust manifold and up pipe(heat wrapped), nx intercooler spray kit (using c02), sti 8 top mount intercooler (a lot larger than standard), P1 viscous centre diff instead of the standard plated one (50/50 split), momo steering wheel with snap off boss, defi fuel pressure, oil pressure, boost, oil temp gauges with control unitbosch motorsport fuel pump, version 6 front bumper with p1 front splitter, version 6 grill, morrette headlight conversion, larger bonnet scoopall clear lights, sti 6 rear spoiler, dba grooved discs, mintex 1155 pads, white pff7 wheels with new toyo proxes, standard type r parts group N gearbox, four pot front brakes, 2 pot rear brakes, uprated drive shaftslsd front and rear diffs, blueprinted engine.
Not sure what it's running as the garage selling it, is selling for a customer and he could not find the dyno sheet and I have not drove it yet hope to do so this week. I think with that spec it should be about 400bhp.
Got to same the car was in fantasic condition.
Here is the spec:
2 Doors, Coupe, Blue Metallic. Air-Conditioning, Alarm, Central Door Locking, Electric Adjustable Mirror, Immobilizer, CD. apexi power fc and commander with apexi boost control kit (professionally mapped by Andy Forrest), TD05/06 hybrid turbo with -31 actuator740cc nismo injectors, parallel fuel rails, fuelab uprated fuel pressure regulator, hks intake system, full 3" revolution exhaust system, H&S de cat down pipehybrid oil breather system, magnex tubular exhaust manifold and up pipe(heat wrapped), nx intercooler spray kit (using c02), sti 8 top mount intercooler (a lot larger than standard), P1 viscous centre diff instead of the standard plated one (50/50 split), momo steering wheel with snap off boss, defi fuel pressure, oil pressure, boost, oil temp gauges with control unitbosch motorsport fuel pump, version 6 front bumper with p1 front splitter, version 6 grill, morrette headlight conversion, larger bonnet scoopall clear lights, sti 6 rear spoiler, dba grooved discs, mintex 1155 pads, white pff7 wheels with new toyo proxes, standard type r parts group N gearbox, four pot front brakes, 2 pot rear brakes, uprated drive shaftslsd front and rear diffs, blueprinted engine.
Not sure what it's running as the garage selling it, is selling for a customer and he could not find the dyno sheet and I have not drove it yet hope to do so this week. I think with that spec it should be about 400bhp.
Got to same the car was in fantasic condition.
400 fly or wheels?
Sounds like an awesome spec. Should be a bt more reliable (due to age) than an older RX etc.
Butt fugly though.
That's at the fly so about 328 at the wheels, if you work on about 18% less atw's.
Rough estimate I know.
I like the looks of the 3dr to be honest, but I know what you mean they are not a looker.
I reckon this should be like s**t off a stick when I drive it.
The GMan said:
...98 Sti Type R V-Ltd with some goodies
I didn't actually know they made a Type R(2dr) V-ltd, I almost bought a 96 STi typeRA V-ltd, they go like a cut cat with a rocket up its @rse. The RA also held about 20km/h more through every corner on one of my 'test' roads than any other car I've driven through it without even trying, and laughed at me the entire way. They're cars that can actually be easy to get into trouble with, simply because they're so good, you carry so much speed and put power down to effectively, they just tease you into going harder and faster, until you see some blue lights flashing... you generally have to be a complete muppet to really lose it in a Subaru, but with the quick ones muppets tend to be going much quicker when they do run out of talent.
If it is a genuine V-ltd it should have the close-ratio (group N) gearbox but with a longer 5th from the regular STi for better cruising (possibly 3200 or 3500 rpm @ 60mph rather than closer to 3700 or 4000 for the normal RA box, can't remember exactly). ETA: The RA had by far the sweetest gearbox I've ever experienced, you start reaching for the lever about 2000rpm early because by the time your hand gets there its time to change, then its almost like you touch the lever and it falls into the next gear telepathically without you really having to move it, then next thing you know its time to do it all over again, and again, and again, etc...
The steerings a bit like that too, with the STi quickrack it just goes where you look (in a good way) I take it the DCCD has been removed if it has a P1 50-50 centre diff? Thats a pity as to me DCCD (driver controlled centre diff) is a big part of their appeal, 64r-36f split when set to open, fully adjustable via a wee dial beside the handbrake to full centre difflock for snow etc. great fun. The different torque split pretty much completely eliminates the traditional Impreza 4wd understeer, and makes them much more fun to drive. If I buy an Impreza to replace the Legacy I don't think I'd buy one without DCCD.
The other mods on that one sound good though, it should be relatively bulletproof if theyve been done/tuned properly, which appears to be the case.
Edited by GravelBen on Tuesday 28th November 22:31
The GMan said:
That's at the fly so about 328 at the wheels, if you work on about 18% less atw's.
Rough estimate I know.
AWDs often have a bit more drivetrain loss than that I think, Vixpy may be able to enlighten us but I've heard of 20% or even as much as 25% being used, the 25% sounds a bit much (like someone trying to make their flywheel figure sound better) but over 20% wouldn't surprise me.
If its running standard internals (even blueprinted) I'd probably expect 400 atf to be about the maximum. Happy to be corrected as I'm not an expert on tuning the beasts though, I know more about the standard(ish) ones.
GravelBen said:
The GMan said:
That's at the fly so about 328 at the wheels, if you work on about 18% less atw's.
Rough estimate I know.
AWDs often have a bit more drivetrain loss than that I think, Vixpy may be able to enlighten us but I've heard of 20% or even as much as 25% being used, the 25% sounds a bit much (like someone trying to make their flywheel figure sound better) but over 20% wouldn't surprise me.
If its running standard internals (even blueprinted) I'd probably expect 400 atf to be about the maximum. Happy to be corrected as I'm not an expert on tuning the beasts though, I know more about the standard(ish) ones.
IIRC 25% is about the norm for 4wd beasties unfortunately. So about 300atw. Still stonkingly quick in most circumstances. Might lose out a bit somewhere like silverstone to a 400rwhp rx-7 unless it's wet/damp (or even a bit moist).
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