RE: Nissan shows 350Z concept at FoS

RE: Nissan shows 350Z concept at FoS

Friday 30th June 2006

Nissan shows 350Z concept at FoS

Supercharged coupé adds 25% more power


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More FoS news rolling in with the scuttlebutt that Nissan is to show off a supercharged version of the 350Z.

In its first ever outing, the new GT-S concept will take the hill climb and be on display in the supercar paddock. Power is up 25 per cent to 377bhp and torque takes a hike to 313lb-ft, thanks to the Novidem supercharger, resulting in it taking just 4.8 seconds to hit 60mph. This compares to figures for the standard car of 296bhp and 260lb-ft of torque, and a sprint figure of 5.8 seconds.

And it sounds better, too, thanks to an electronically controlled by-pass valve that enriches the exhaust note at a pre-determined engine speed.

Nissan Technical Centre Europe (NTCE) engineers, who tuned the original 350Z to suit European roads and our higher speeds, have undertaken the suspension changes. Working closely with specialists from Bilstein, the changes concentrate on optimising road performance, with improvements in both handling ability and ride comfort, particularly on British ‘B’ roads. Wider wheels and tyres complete the chassis alterations.

A wind tunnel developed body/aero kit from German firm Strosek not only gives the all-black GT-S a distinctive look, but also improves the 350Z’s aerodynamic performance with increased front and rear downforce at speed. The package is completed by a NVH pack which makes the GT-S even more civilised than the standard 350Z.

The project’s technical leader Steve Robbins said: "We could have produced a balls-out racer with huge power outputs and very little suspension movement. But while this would have created a superb racer, it would have been virtually unusable on the road. Instead we approached the GT-S from an engineering stand-point with a view to creating a 350Z that provides more of everything: performance, handling, looks, comfort and excitement.

"We also looked at the possible marketing potential of such a project and have designed the improvements as individual ‘packs’ – an engine pack, a suspension pack, aero pack and so on – and kept a close eye on costs."

How they did it

Designed to appeal to enthusiastic 350Z owners who simply want more, this will be the fourth year in succession Nissan’s 350Z has starred at the Festival, and each year the Z taking part has become more extreme. In 2003, shortly after its UK launch, a standard road car more than held its head high among supercars that cost four or five times as much.

In 2004, Nissan’s communications department, headed by Wayne Bruce, had a standard road car modified with parts from Nissan’s aftermarket performance arm and registered the car with the number GB53 ZZZ.

Last year, a 350Z Nismo GT was imported for the Festival, but for 2006 Bruce decided to continue the Z/Goodwood story with a special version built in-house and in the UK. He turned to European engineering director Jerry Hardcastle for help and they kick-started the GT-S project.

Although boasting a power hike and a substantially modified chassis, the GT-S, also wearing that GB53 ZZZ registration number, is not a stripped out racing car with a rock hard ride and a peaky power delivery.

Bruce said: "The GT-S has been created as a real car not an ornament. We wanted to build a ‘Club Special’ that could still be used to commute to work during the week but would provide added thrills at the weekend: a weekday workhorse and a weekend warrior in one distinctive package."

Robbins, who during the week is a senior engineer in the new vehicle evaluation team at NTCE, gathered together half a dozen like-minded enthusiasts to work on the project. Working after hours and at the weekend, the team members came from within NTCE and also from outside suppliers and was known internally as the S-Club Seven.

So will the GT-S ultimately become more than a weekend project by a group of mavericks? Nissan is saying nothing officially, though insiders point to its appearance at Goodwood as a sign the company is giving the GT-S concept serious consideration.

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tuttle

Original Poster:

3,427 posts

243 months

Friday 30th June 2006
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I like it, it seems the sort of thing the 350z should have been from the start. More confusion over the Nissan GTS badge will ensue no doubt

mattmurdock

2,204 posts

239 months

Friday 30th June 2006
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Wayne Bruce?....black, streamlined powerful car?...methinks the 2007 version will have wings and a jet engine

dbroughton

304 posts

220 months

Friday 30th June 2006
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i think Nissan got the car right in the first place with the exception of the cheap interior. They should have spent another £1000 on the trim and let the retail price reflect the improvements. That way they would have taken sales from the "lifestyle" buyers of TT's and boxters.

The new car would be a great upgrade route for exisitng owners providing it went upmarket. I have a 350z and love the drive but do find myself looking lovingly at the new Brera, TT and even Cayman.

dinkel

27,136 posts

264 months

Friday 30th June 2006
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I love the look and the sound of the engine . . .


. . . here in the Astra racer.

Maybe they could do a smaller version of the 350 in a bit similar way . . . mid-engine maybe . . . bit lighter and more racy.

Good project.

GTRene

17,555 posts

230 months

Friday 30th June 2006
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Nice car Dinkel, at least under the skin(not an astra fan) but undo that body work and its a nice set up...jummie
GTRene

sidesauce

2,660 posts

224 months

Friday 30th June 2006
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Although I'm not too keen on the lower front grill in silver the word 'purposeful' comes to mind - that thing looks positively evil...

gofasterrosssco

1,244 posts

242 months

Friday 30th June 2006
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Maybe gives an insight into the likely performance of the forthcoming GTR - It will have to be a decent bit faster than this to justify it price.......

BUG4LIFE

2,113 posts

224 months

Friday 30th June 2006
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If the supercharged Z comes in at just over £35k, I'll be doing everything possible to get one! I did want the current Z roadster, but I so want something thats gonna blow the hell out of any new hot-hatch...reckon a 380bhp Z will fit the bill so well! That or an R34 GTR if I could find a low miler that dont cost over £40k?

AndyB_WRX

541 posts

231 months

Friday 30th June 2006
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Looks good and now got the power it deserves

Wonder how it would compare to a 300zx TT now?

r988

7,495 posts

235 months

Friday 30th June 2006
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AndyB_WRX said:
Looks good and now got the power it deserves

Wonder how it would compare to a 300zx TT now?



The 300ZX TT and Skyline GT-R are both 280bhp limited, but assume up to maybe 320bhp according to some for the GT-R. This Z has a fair chunk more power and only a tiny bit more weight, for acceleration comparison we have the following information.

Kerb weight
350Z - 1557kg
R34 GTR - 1540kg
300ZX TT - 1530kg (derided as too heavy in its day!)

0-60mph / 1/4 mile
Stock 350Z - 5.9 sec / 14.6 sec
R34 GTR - 4.9 sec / 13.01 sec
300ZX TT - 5.6 sec / 14.27 sec
BMW M3 E46 - 5.7 sec / 13.77 sec
Nismo 350Z - 5.0 sec / 13.10 sec
(supercharged with 379bhp at wheels)

r988

7,495 posts

235 months

Friday 30th June 2006
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Gazboy said:
I think you can safely say a GTR has a bit more than 276bhp straight from the crate.


Thats what I said

320bhp is the most common that I hear, though I have heard up to 350bhp quoted for some depends how you calculate the power loss I suppose.

richycsl

3,741 posts

223 months

Friday 30th June 2006
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r988 said:
AndyB_WRX said:
Looks good and now got the power it deserves

Wonder how it would compare to a 300zx TT now?



The 300ZX TT and Skyline GT-R are both 280bhp limited, but assume up to maybe 320bhp according to some for the GT-R. This Z has a fair chunk more power and only a tiny bit more weight, for acceleration comparison we have the following information.

Kerb weight
350Z - 1557kg
R34 GTR - 1540kg
300ZX TT - 1530kg (derided as too heavy in its day!)

0-60mph / 1/4 mile
Stock 350Z - 5.9 sec / 14.6 sec
R34 GTR - 4.9 sec / 13.01 sec
300ZX TT - 5.6 sec / 14.27 sec
BMW M3 E46 - 5.7 sec / 13.77 sec
Nismo 350Z - 5.0 sec / 13.10 sec
(supercharged with 379bhp at wheels)


350Z is 1557kgs that cannot be right surely.

steelbru

34 posts

236 months

Friday 30th June 2006
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Why not ?

i'm afraid it is

ambientflier

1 posts

219 months

Saturday 1st July 2006
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r988 said:
AndyB_WRX said:
Looks good and now got the power it deserves

Wonder how it would compare to a 300zx TT now?



The 300ZX TT and Skyline GT-R are both 280bhp limited, but assume up to maybe 320bhp according to some for the GT-R. This Z has a fair chunk more power and only a tiny bit more weight, for acceleration comparison we have the following information.

Kerb weight
350Z - 1557kg
R34 GTR - 1540kg
300ZX TT - 1530kg (derided as too heavy in its day!)

0-60mph / 1/4 mile
Stock 350Z - 5.9 sec / 14.6 sec
R34 GTR - 4.9 sec / 13.01 sec
300ZX TT - 5.6 sec / 14.27 sec
BMW M3 E46 - 5.7 sec / 13.77 sec
Nismo 350Z - 5.0 sec / 13.10 sec
(supercharged with 379bhp at wheels)



Where the heck are you getting these numbers? 0-60 of 5.9 and 1/4 of 14.6? You must be looking at an auto G35 coupe. 5.4-5.5 and 13.9-14.1 are the average for Zs, while the quickest time so far for a stock one is 13.77 in the 1/4. And also, I believe the R34 is heavier than a 350Z, since it has an iron block, turbo hardware and awd.

Edited by ambientflier on Saturday 1st July 05:21

FestivAli

1,099 posts

244 months

Saturday 1st July 2006
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The article says that they could have gone for more power and so on to make a good racer, but it wouldn't be useable. Rubbish. A guy near me has an APS (Air Power Systems) twin-turbo upgrade on his 350Z, and thats rated at 500hp. It's clearly his daily driver two, because I see it all the time. It's about a $7000AUD upgrade on a stock Z, so around 72k Australian, which is much cheaper than 35000 british pounds translated, and APS gives warranties and will do servicing etc.

Plus it doesn't have the hideously aftermarket bodykit of that thing.

Ali.

richycsl

3,741 posts

223 months

Saturday 1st July 2006
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steelbru said:
Why not ?

i'm afraid it is


Its a 2 seater coupe, isn't that heavy for such a car?

R6RY D

299 posts

247 months

Sunday 2nd July 2006
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i risk getting shot down here, however at the santapod day last week there were two supercharged 350's that a freind and i were watching as he wants one, to be honest they were far from impressive the skylines and 300s were shitting on them from quite a height, still a lovely motor, just would have expected a lot more, maybe the twin turbo conversion is more effective?

Bada Bing!

949 posts

233 months

Monday 3rd July 2006
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R6RY D said:
i risk getting shot down here, however at the santapod day last week there were two supercharged 350's that a freind and i were watching as he wants one, to be honest they were far from impressive the skylines and 300s were shitting on them from quite a height, still a lovely motor, just would have expected a lot more, maybe the twin turbo conversion is more effective?

Yes, but I doubt those Skyline's were standard.

Mr E

22,054 posts

265 months

Monday 3rd July 2006
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richycsl said:
steelbru said:
Why not ?

i'm afraid it is


Its a 2 seater coupe, isn't that heavy for such a car?



That's modern cars for you.

paul_k

88 posts

226 months

Monday 3rd July 2006
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20% increase in torque is not much, and the weight over standard is increased.

However ditch the body kit, give it a 3 year warranty, price it at under £35K and you have a winner.


Paul