ESVA - I don't understand

ESVA - I don't understand

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andytk

Original Poster:

1,553 posts

272 months

Monday 28th November 2005
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Right, how does the ESVA work.

How come importers can bring in relativley new Z 350's from Japan but can only bring in really ropey Rx7's pre 93.

Why the time block.

There must be loads of good pre 2002 Rx7s to bring over.

Can someone explain how it works

And why are Japanese cars hit, while American cars aren't?

please 'scuse me if this has been asked a million times


Andy

iaint

10,040 posts

244 months

Tuesday 29th November 2005
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I'd assume it's because there's a model report available for the Z or that, as it's currently on sale in Euroland the model report for the Euro-spec car is appliccable to the Import. Or something.

I understand that there's a company who've invested in a number of model reports that importers can hire for the day to get their car through the ESVA. None available for the FD as far as I know

Batty FTO

12,268 posts

256 months

Tuesday 29th November 2005
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iaint said:
I'd assume it's because there's a model report available...


unfortunatly thats true...
even facelift FTO's are deemed different to pre-facelifts, and they only have a different bumper
also i think later 'liners etc struggle on emissions

Neil_H

15,344 posts

257 months

Tuesday 29th November 2005
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The main point that most cars fall over is the emissions test, the 350Z is a recent car that has been homologated for sale in the EU and so Jap versions will be fully compliant. The RX-7 hasn't officially been sold here since the new emissions laws came into effect and as such will not pass.

There is a loophole for some cars, the R34 GTR for example can now be imported. This is after some companies allegedly spent £30k trying to get a model report made for it!

Neil_H

15,344 posts

257 months

Tuesday 29th November 2005
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Gazboy said:
Neil_H said:

There is a loophole for some cars, the R34 GTR for example can now be imported. This is after some companies allegedly spent £30k trying to get a model report made for it!


Are you sure?


Yep, this came straight from two well known importers (Newera and GT-Culture) who both said they can now bring them in. I don't think it's as easy as it used to be, but can be done.

andytk

Original Poster:

1,553 posts

272 months

Tuesday 29th November 2005
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Neil_H said:
The main point that most cars fall over is the emissions test, the 350Z is a recent car that has been homologated for sale in the EU and so Jap versions will be fully compliant. The RX-7 hasn't officially been sold here since the new emissions laws came into effect and as such will not pass.



Hmmm,

If, say, you could get the car to pass the emissions test would it be allowed in.

Or is there no model report for post 93 Rx7s and thats where the problem lies.

After all, with a bit of ingenuity it might be possible to get a dirty car to pass the test...


Andy

iaint

10,040 posts

244 months

Tuesday 29th November 2005
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andytk said:


Hmmm,

If, say, you could get the car to pass the emissions test would it be allowed in.

Or is there no model report for post 93 Rx7s and thats where the problem lies.

After all, with a bit of ingenuity it might be possible to get a dirty car to pass the test...


Andy


Getting the car through the emissions test isn't actually a problem at all - decatted but with air pump still in place it sailed through the emissions to the degree where it's have passed the CAT test no worries.

Removal of the air-pump buggered that one up somewhat though!

The real problem is the lack of a model report. If your name's not down, you're not coming in.

tuttle

3,427 posts

243 months

Tuesday 29th November 2005
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iaint said:
The real problem is the lack of a model report. If your name's not down, you're not coming in.


Is, I believe the big prob.The CR requires,& includes, crash-test/safety data . Putting a model thru these can be very £££.

Neil_H

15,344 posts

257 months

Tuesday 29th November 2005
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Yes, there's no model report, there's no model report because it will not pass the emissions test!

linney.org said:
The reason there are no model reports for certain models i.e R34, RX7, supra as they do not pass the euro test on emissions. In order to successfully pass ESVA standard emissions test will require having specially adapted exhaust systems with extra Cat converter, modified ECU's, injectors, fueling etc.. Cars must be of standard spec to have a chance of passing noise and emissions tests and sadly this means that all cars that are tested with the same model report, will need to be of the same spec of the original donor car.


http://linney.org/Index.htm?about_company.htm

andytk

Original Poster:

1,553 posts

272 months

Wednesday 30th November 2005
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OK, one last daft question.

Why, or how, did we end up with this legislation???

Is it Nu Labia strikes again, or did someone at the DVLA wake up and decided they'd go on a power trip?

Andy

iaint

10,040 posts

244 months

Wednesday 30th November 2005
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andytk said:
OK, one last daft question.

Why, or how, did we end up with this legislation???

Is it Nu Labia strikes again, or did someone at the DVLA wake up and decided they'd go on a power trip?

Andy


EU power-trippers, short-sighted MoT and backroom bribes from the car manufacturer's lobby (they don't want cheaper and funner imports spoiling their profits). I'd imagine.

dnb

3,330 posts

248 months

Wednesday 30th November 2005
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Mr Tamagotchi-san may not have done, but Mr <insert Eurobox maker here>, Mr <insert Eurobox maker here> and Mr <insert Eurobox maker here> may well have done.

After all, we all know grey import JDM cars are better, faster and funner don't we...

iaint

10,040 posts

244 months

Thursday 1st December 2005
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On the plus side it means I have a good reason to drive round in a 13 year old car!!!