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MrFlibbles

Original Poster:

7,711 posts

290 months

Wednesday 9th November 2005
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....and so does my turbo! Seems like an extra 50 bhp with all this dense cold air!

Not so keen on 160 miles to a full tank though....

Speaking of winter and MRT's - Al and Gaz, or indeed any other MRT owners / ex owners - whats this thing all about the ecu limiting boost in cold weather? Sometimes the ECU wont let me boost above 3/4 on the gauge , but other times, like tonight, it was boosting to the max!

GTS Turbo

246 posts

232 months

Wednesday 9th November 2005
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it won't boost if below 4 degrees to stop you killing yourself and it won't boost fully if it's to hot to stop you blowing it up. think it's the vsv thingy that controls it but can be deactivated easily i think. i left it on mine because i would spin and die on ice or pop a turbo in the heat being a complete moron like i am

MrFlibbles

Original Poster:

7,711 posts

290 months

Wednesday 9th November 2005
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It just doesnt seem very consistent - eg this morning 3/4 boost on slip road to m42, then 2 mins later, full boost in outside lane.....

Mr E

22,128 posts

266 months

Wednesday 9th November 2005
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GTS Turbo said:
it won't boost if below 4 degrees to stop you killing yourself



Really? I've have full boost in sub zero temperatures on a similar engine.

tuttle

3,427 posts

244 months

Wednesday 9th November 2005
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Gazboy said:
Mr E said:
GTS Turbo said:
it won't boost if below 4 degrees to stop you killing yourself



Really? I've have full boost in sub zero temperatures on a similar engine.


Interesting- maybe chargecooling and being at the front changes things?


interesting...Off the Top of head an' all that.A (poorly maintained)Chargecooler being filled with liquid has the potential to become frozen solid. Would make some sense as an engine safety thing. As above at -4 deg C it would help stop you from killing yerself on black ice, makes perfect sense.

htsd

263 posts

247 months

Wednesday 9th November 2005
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Don't forget that the more dense the air is, the less volume you need to meet the stoichiometric ratio. If your car boosts lower in very cold conditions I'd expect that it is trying to keep the A/F ratio correct as opposed to leaning out by pushing too much oxygen in by running full boost.

Also the air on a main road will be significantly warmer than on a side road due to other vehicles etc. Your engine bay may have also come up to temp by that point, meaning the air becomes less dense and you can get full boost again.

MrFlibbles

Original Poster:

7,711 posts

290 months

Thursday 10th November 2005
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htsd said:
the stoichiometric ratio.


The what now?

dragstar

3,924 posts

257 months

Thursday 10th November 2005
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MrFlibbles said:
htsd said:
the stoichiometric ratio.


The what now?


i think its a fancy name for one of these:

rsvmilly

11,288 posts

248 months

Thursday 10th November 2005
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dragstar said:
Cool.

Do Blitz make one?

dragstar

3,924 posts

257 months

Thursday 10th November 2005
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Mr E

22,128 posts

266 months

Thursday 10th November 2005
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rsvmilly said:

Do Blitz make one?




tuttle

3,427 posts

244 months

Thursday 10th November 2005
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Mr E said:
rsvmilly said:

Do Blitz make one?






:rolf:
Cool! why spend ~£100.00 on stainless heatshielding when you can have one of them?

Batty FTO

12,268 posts

257 months

Thursday 10th November 2005
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Gazboy said:
You have no idea how much that cheered me up - got sent home and signed off with stress today.


you ok Gaz?
not enough sharp knives?


>> Edited by Batty FTO on Thursday 10th November 20:02

deeps

5,411 posts

248 months

Thursday 10th November 2005
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Stoich is 14.7 / 1 AFR.
If you're running say 12 / 1 on full boost, you would be slightly leaner on a cold day at say 12.5 / 1, but still rich enough not to det.

Dont know much about the MRT , dont think the ECU is clever enough to lower boost on cold days?

I fitted a boost controller to my rex to keep boost stable, HKS EVC, works a treat.

Batty FTO

12,268 posts

257 months

Thursday 10th November 2005
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Gazboy said:



Ever been stuck between a trade union and your employer (this stays in Japchat btw)? A whole new kind of stress.



Knives..... I'll nick one off a PH student.... they have plenty...



I'll live- cheers mate.

new kinda threesome eh??
take it easy dude, go have a blast in the silver rocket
lifes too short for stress, anyway you wouldn't want to lose your hair (read spikes )

Batty FTO

12,268 posts

257 months

Friday 11th November 2005
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Gazboy said:
I've been told by my guvn'er to stay home and walk the dog!

sound advice

_Al_

5,594 posts

265 months

Friday 11th November 2005
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Bloody hell Gaz, not good.

Take it easy mate, stress is no joke. In your shoes I'd go to a GP and try to get signed off for a couple of days. Any good quack won't hesitate and any good employer won't complain.


As an aside - the manual for the MR2 says it lowers boost when the ambient temp is below 4 degrees C.

Russ, what the hell are you doing to get 160 miles per tank??????

The worst I've ever seen is 27mpg, and that was when I was doing 'demo drives'. My (rough) mental arythmatic puts you at 20mpg or less!

Batty FTO

12,268 posts

257 months

Friday 11th November 2005
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he's driving it properly Al
i'm only getting 240 from a tank

tuttle

3,427 posts

244 months

Friday 11th November 2005
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Take it easy for a day or two GB, Stress is a killer, Really!
I have to deal with a lot of NHS burocrat types ( talk about bloody mindedness & frustration ) When its all getting a bit much for me I like to imagine them on the bog, taking a really *uncomfortable* & strenuous dump! Works every time.

Batty FTO

12,268 posts

257 months

Friday 11th November 2005
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don't let it play on your mind
thing about the big'old supe, and that nice missus you have