New Civic starts production
Honda still won't talk about the Type-R
Honda has started mass production of the eighth generation Civic in Swindon, Wiltshire. Mass production begins just seven months after the concept version was unveiled at the Geneva Motor Show, underlining the company's long term commitment to building cars in the UK.
The new car is scheduled to go on sale in January 2006, with other new models in the Civic range to be launched over the next 12 months -- which ones Hondas isn't saying yet though there will at some point be a Type-R. Honda reckoned that it expects to sell more than 35,000 Civics in the UK next year, although the plant also builds cars for the rest of Europe.
The new UK built Civic hatchback will feature Honda’s acclaimed, high-performance 2.2 i-CDTi diesel engine, an all-new and highly efficient 1.8 litre i-VTEC petrol engine and a 1.4 i-DSI petrol engine.
This will, said Honda, be the first time that the plant has got to mass production in the UK without the car first being produced in a Japanese parent plant.
C'mon - where's the Type-R?
author said:
C'mon - where's the Type-R?
I hope this one gets a fair review as the old Type R received some very unfair press on this site and a truly badly written story.
Tiff described the car as having the best steering, brakes, chassis, gearbox and engine on any hot hatch he has ever driven.
- source - Fifth Gear. The video is still available for download for £1.50.
This site described it as a noisy shopping car that for people who liked to wear caps back to front.
Lets see a fair review this time around.
__LEE__ said:
author said:
C'mon - where's the Type-R?
I hope this one gets a fair review as the old Type R received some very unfair press on this site and a truly badly written story.
Tiff described the car as having the best steering, brakes, chassis, gearbox and engine on any hot hatch he has ever driven.
- source - Fifth Gear. The video is still available for download for £1.50.
This site described it as a noisy shopping car that for people who liked to wear caps back to front.
Lets see a fair review this time around.
I have to agree with you on that one. I would agree with one criticsm in that it was a little expensive brand new and didnt come with Aircon as standard. But it was always unfairly compared with the Clio 182 - plainly those who compared the two dont quite understand that the CTR is bigger, actually quite a bit bigger - in fact the CTR is approx. Focus 3-dr sized and very roomy in comparison to a small supermini sized Clio (that is not to say that the 182 is bad, its just appropriately priced!).
Also, quite why everyone calls Honda's cars for old people I dont know. Yes they do have a solid ownership with the older generation. But so what - so do Jags, BMW and Mercs - do we slate them? Nah, and I cant see that many 55+ year olds buying CTRs anyway.
Oh, and neither I or my wife wear baseball caps and we never have them on backwards
Just don't like the lights I guess, but can't please everyone. All credit to them for doing something a bit ballsy and off the wall...
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off_again said:
Also, quite why everyone calls Honda's cars for old people I dont know.
They offer an extremely reliable and comfy ride. Elastic engine, very forgiving . . . Seats are great. I love my 5G carbed 1.3 to bits . . . and my mother in laws (she has grey hair yes) 6G also offers all that. But that one doesn't look too good.
This new thingy is allright I guess. But hey, we all saw this pic about a year ago?
>> Edited by dinkel on Friday 14th October 14:00
los angeles said:
Radical design, for Honda. I wonder if the interior will match.
Interior is actually remarkably good, I like the groovy instruments at night (Not to mention interesting Honda has gone for such a small speedometer and such a large rev gauge, are they suggesting that we drive on our judgment and not the posted speed limit?): www.autoweek.nl/images/800/2015747.jpg and daytime: www.speedsportlife.com/photopost/data/692/thumbs/2006_Civic_Sedan_38.jpg Though as you may notice that material they use on the steering wheel looks quite cheap. I mean it doesn’t look like a very expensive interior but then it’s not an expensive car, damn site better than most of its current rivals at any rate.
I quite like the new design, though it does look as if the windscreen could just do with tilting a couple of degrees backwards (though that might annoy the American health and safety people). Also is the front all one giant headlight? Would be great for driving at night, you could blind speed cameras and guiding lost ships off rocks!
I seem to remember a piece on the old Civic Type-R aired by 5th gear in which they raced a Civic type-R and S2000 around a course and somehow proved the Civic despite being front wheel drive and a lower power engine was faster?
VTEC engine in this next civic is probably the most advanced, intricate and complex production engine in any car today. Having said that they do seem amazingly reliable, economical and powerful (if you are willing to give it some boot).
I’m sure it will get negative press comments that suggest we should all run out and buy something less reliable that has a certain “feel” to it, how the interior doesn’t conform to looking like a car should and probably have a moan about the engine (because there is nothing that seems to tick motoring journalists off more than a car company that sets itself apart with pride from the others – Just look at the scorning TVR’s have often got up until recently).
Good luck to them for pushing the boat out a bit (Though I may be a bit bias due to my current car, would defiantly consider the new one as a replacement! Though probably not the Type-R).
Isn’t there supposed to be some sort of CRX version again soon?
>> Edited by speedy_thrills on Friday 14th October 14:05
__LEE__ said:
author said:
C'mon - where's the Type-R?
I hope this one gets a fair review as the old Type R received some very unfair press on this site and a truly badly written story.
Tiff described the car as having the best steering, brakes, chassis, gearbox and engine on any hot hatch he has ever driven.
- source - Fifth Gear. The video is still available for download for £1.50.
This site described it as a noisy shopping car that for people who liked to wear caps back to front.
Lets see a fair review this time around.
If you read my review on the Type R, I gave it a glowing review as it is truely a very good car, infact the best hot hatch in my opinion.
People need to stop beleiving everything they read in the press as most of it now, is not subjective like it shoud be but very one sided towards what the journalists opinions are, which is wrong!!!!!!!!!
As yet though Honda have not shown so much as a picture of a 3 door car.
I hope the new one is as good as my old 03 plate was, the only real issues that bugged me with it were
Truely wooden steering with next to zero feedback
over excited ABS coming into action at every chance.
The soon to be launched US si coupe model looks very nice too.
I have a 94 Prelude, with a F20B engine going in it, this engine was out of the Accord SiR-T, its almost a S2000 motor and has ballistic revving abilities and a near perfect R/S ratio. IMHO, Hondas should be bought by pensioners, so in a few years whenthey exit this mortal coil, youngish dudes like me can buy their bargain priced S2000's for the price of a used Ford or Holden!!!
I was reading in Honda Tuning Magazine an article about this very subject, the stealing, and rebirthing! Seems if you own a B18C engine in the US, you a target, and if you buy one, likely chance is its been pinched!
I envy all the Honda owners in the US, theres so much aftermarket support for the brand, over here in Oz, we have to make everything ourselves, or pay way over the top import prices.
As regards the new Civic, we didn't even get the last Type R here, so theres zero hope of getting a new version if it ever comes out. I like the 3 door, but the Si version looks a bit fat around its haunches, the front looks like an Odyssey, but not bad. Still rather have Me prelude though lol
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