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263bhp eh? 
I'm certainly not an expert on these things but isn't the max brake limit,that you can *safely* put thru fwd something like 225bhp? I imagine torque steer & wheel hop would make it pretty hairy to drive with any gusto
I guess,the question is,why didn't M'bishi make it rwd?
>> Edited by tuttle on Tuesday 21st June 11:26
I'm certainly not an expert on these things but isn't the max brake limit,that you can *safely* put thru fwd something like 225bhp? I imagine torque steer & wheel hop would make it pretty hairy to drive with any gusto
I guess,the question is,why didn't M'bishi make it rwd?
>> Edited by tuttle on Tuesday 21st June 11:26
Yes do! 
Andy Mac said:
I've seen loads of these eclipse things over here. They look 'ok' but it seems such a waste to have it fwd. Same as the FTO. Could be a great car, but fwd...sheesh!
What I don't get is why Mitsubishi don't use their Evo technology in any car other than the Lancer.
It's unfortunate that it's ended up all FWD and squirmy. I reckon part of the problem is that, whereas one time, in the '70s heyday of coupes when the majority of car ranges were based around RWD platforms and were simple, basic and rugged - and therefore responsive to tweaking, nowadays we're lumbered with horrible shrink-wrapped FWD packages constrained by the company's average-minded driving dynamics.
So of course, instead of building coupes with RWD platforms and basic bits that can be easily chopped and changed by the factory, you have shopping cars with attractive bodies, and hyper-powered engines that, whilst they may be quite fun, are only limited as such.
The Mitsubishi Eclipse is an example of a 'shopping' coupe straining frantically at its leash. The Hyundai Coupe SE V6 is another.
Andy Mac said:
Is Hyundai coupe fwd?
Yes. It's funny when companies decide to take on BMW, Mercedes and Jaguar (and in America, Cadillac and Lincoln) at their own game by producing luxury saloons and sporting saloons based on FWD platforms, then wonder why they don't do so well. The truth is, in this FWD-biased market, RWD is actually prestigious and shows evidence of more exclusive engineering. Lexus had the right idea in this respect, and look how successful they've become.
Alfa Romeo are the only company I can think of that have made a virtue out of FWD sports saloons. The likes of Volvo and Saab will never be considered true BMW rivals unless they produce a car with a bespoke RWD platform.
dinkel said:
The likes of Volvo and Saab will never be considered true BMW rivals . . .
Audi?
All the Audis considered true luxury rivals are 4WD. Also, Audis have notoriously hard ride characteristics, partially due to stiffening the suspension to make the most of F/4WD. In terms of ride, they get beaten by everyone.
I've driven my bro in laws A6 3.2 and its ride is excellent. Not bad at all. Its soft enough to be damn comfortable, but sporty enough to harrang it round the wee back roads. The suspension on my a4 is so damn soft its offible. I need to get a new sport setup, cos it leans like an italian tower!
I think the point people are making is that the eclipse isn't a hot hatch, and could be an all out sports car, if they went the correct route and made it rwd.
We all know its easier to have fwd, as the vast majority of mass produced cars are made this way.
Gaz, never driven a Hyundai coupe, BUT I did see a program where they tested a lexus soarer against the Hyundai coupe, and the Hyundai whooped ass, especially considering the price difference, and the engine options. Nice lookng too..
We all know its easier to have fwd, as the vast majority of mass produced cars are made this way.
Gaz, never driven a Hyundai coupe, BUT I did see a program where they tested a lexus soarer against the Hyundai coupe, and the Hyundai whooped ass, especially considering the price difference, and the engine options. Nice lookng too..
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