Calling Suzuki Swift Sport owners!
Discussion
My current steer is a lightly modified S2000, which Ive had for about 5 years. I've no great desire to get shot of it, but, inevitably I will want another car and, inevitably I will want to be better. Which means saving...
So I'm considering selling the Honda now (at a time when I don't want to as such), buying something cheaper to run/tax/insure and running that for a few years whilst I attempt to save for the next rung up the performance ladder - whatever that may be.
I like the idea of a used Swift very much. Nimble, exploitable chassis, generally well regarded, and it seems an '07 can be bought for around 3k. LEts say I sell the honda for 8k, thats a start in the savings pot.
But I've never driven one or run one. Any owners care to comment?
I guess I'm mostly interested in how often you have the fill thing. I currently do ~250miles/week and roughly speaking am at the petrol station every week at a cost of £50-60 to fill up again. How much can I expect to save on fuel alone??
Ta
So I'm considering selling the Honda now (at a time when I don't want to as such), buying something cheaper to run/tax/insure and running that for a few years whilst I attempt to save for the next rung up the performance ladder - whatever that may be.
I like the idea of a used Swift very much. Nimble, exploitable chassis, generally well regarded, and it seems an '07 can be bought for around 3k. LEts say I sell the honda for 8k, thats a start in the savings pot.
But I've never driven one or run one. Any owners care to comment?
I guess I'm mostly interested in how often you have the fill thing. I currently do ~250miles/week and roughly speaking am at the petrol station every week at a cost of £50-60 to fill up again. How much can I expect to save on fuel alone??
Ta
Edited by Helical on Monday 8th October 10:58
You'd probably be best to try for yourself - have a test drive, view a few.
Don't rule out a Panda 100HP, especially now they're getting cheaper. Cheap in every aspect, but also practical. Closest thing I've had in terms of getting that early-mid 90's hot hatch feeling back.
Also good looking imo, but that's highly subjective
Don't rule out a Panda 100HP, especially now they're getting cheaper. Cheap in every aspect, but also practical. Closest thing I've had in terms of getting that early-mid 90's hot hatch feeling back.
Also good looking imo, but that's highly subjective
Helical said:
How much does it cost to fill up/how many miles do you get out a tank?
It's been a while since I had mine, but I found it easy to get 40mpg, even with "hooning" in it. Was closer to 35 with more around town driving. Read plenty who didn't get that, but also seem to get the impression they valued "mods" over servicing, so.....Cost to fill is only an indication of tank size and means nothing (unless you plan on commuting USA style), but I think the tank is around 35 litres.
This was mine. Was well specced from factory with the kit, wheels, tinted windows, 6 speed box, bluetooth, ac & climate, etc.
Would have one in my 10 car garage, and I've owned and driven a lot of different cars.
This is very, very coincidental. I was looking at Swift (sports) yesterday and this morning as a daily, as also have an S2000 and really shouldn't be putting any wet winter miles on it, so... I guess I'll be following your thread and taking on the advice as well!
From what I've read so far, the mk1 versions can have some interior rattle noise so check for that if you test one out - you won't want this on your commute. 35-40 mpg seems the norm. The mk2 cars from 2012 onwards have a few more HP but are still N/A engines, and apparently get even better fuel economy, more like 45-50 on longer journeys. Road noise is a complaint for the mk1, and as already mentioned the 5th gear isn't ideal, sitting at 70mph at 4,000 rpm means it'll be noisy.
Decent mk2 swift sports start at about 5k for 50-60k mile cars, but obviously this goes against your saving aims. Speaking of which, maybe wait until April/May next year to sell the s2000 and take advantage of the good weather we (might) get?
From what I've read so far, the mk1 versions can have some interior rattle noise so check for that if you test one out - you won't want this on your commute. 35-40 mpg seems the norm. The mk2 cars from 2012 onwards have a few more HP but are still N/A engines, and apparently get even better fuel economy, more like 45-50 on longer journeys. Road noise is a complaint for the mk1, and as already mentioned the 5th gear isn't ideal, sitting at 70mph at 4,000 rpm means it'll be noisy.
Decent mk2 swift sports start at about 5k for 50-60k mile cars, but obviously this goes against your saving aims. Speaking of which, maybe wait until April/May next year to sell the s2000 and take advantage of the good weather we (might) get?
Edited by NorthernSky on Monday 8th October 12:09
NorthernSky said:
This is very, very coincidental. I was looking at Swift (sports) yesterday and this morning as a daily, as also have an S2000 and really shouldn't be putting any wet winter miles on it, so... I guess I'll be following your thread and taking on the advice as well!
From what I've read so far, the mk1 versions can have some interior rattle noise so check for that if you test one out - you won't want this on your commute. 35-40 mpg seems the norm. The mk2 cars from 2012 onwards have a few more HP but are still N/A engines, and apparently get even better fuel economy, more like 45-50 on longer journeys. Road noise is a complaint for the mk1, and as already mentioned the 5th gear isn't ideal, sitting at 70mph at 4,000 rpm means it'll be noisy.
Decent mk2 swift sports start at about 5k for 50-60k mile cars, but obviously this goes against your saving aims. Speaking of which, maybe wait until April/May next year to sell the s2000 and take advantage of the good weather we (might) get?
That really is a coincidence!!From what I've read so far, the mk1 versions can have some interior rattle noise so check for that if you test one out - you won't want this on your commute. 35-40 mpg seems the norm. The mk2 cars from 2012 onwards have a few more HP but are still N/A engines, and apparently get even better fuel economy, more like 45-50 on longer journeys. Road noise is a complaint for the mk1, and as already mentioned the 5th gear isn't ideal, sitting at 70mph at 4,000 rpm means it'll be noisy.
Decent mk2 swift sports start at about 5k for 50-60k mile cars, but obviously this goes against your saving aims. Speaking of which, maybe wait until April/May next year to sell the s2000 and take advantage of the good weather we (might) get?
Edited by NorthernSky on Monday 8th October 12:09
Some good info there - cheers.
Mezzanine said:
I am currently looking at a Mk2 SSS.
Can any current owners tell me if the Bluetooth interface is telephone only or can you stream music from your phone too?
Keep in mind the 2012-2013 cars has a more basic head unit, 2014 onwards got something more fancy with sat nav. If I recall correctly (I had a 2013) it could do either but I could never get it to pair for phone and music at the same time.Can any current owners tell me if the Bluetooth interface is telephone only or can you stream music from your phone too?
FIREBIRDC9 said:
Joey Deacon said:
A car that I keep thinking about, but the MK1's are only 5 speed, what are the revs at 70 MPH?
4kI try and avoid Motorways in mine!
colin79666 said:
Keep in mind the 2012-2013 cars has a more basic head unit, 2014 onwards got something more fancy with sat nav. If I recall correctly (I had a 2013) it could do either but I could never get it to pair for phone and music at the same time.
I have a 2017 and the head unit displays the graphics from Spotify and will answer calls and if I'm using the sat nav it dims the music. I don't really use the sat nav itself very often though, it has a habit of crashing and it's nowhere near as useful as Waze. I would be tempted to change out the hi fi to a different unit.Not been any replies for a while but thought I would just chip in.
Currently own a 2010 Swift Sport (ZC31S).
Can't really estimate a mileage I do per week but around 12k per year, fill up with Tesco Momentum only at about £20-£40 a week depending on if I travel to places other than just work and back. (37.5 MPG reported)
Overall the 4k revs whilst at 70 is a bit of a pain but you get used to it, music can easily drain it out.
The drive in the car is a lot of fun and can be taken around a few B-Roads to enjoy.
In mine I have a aftermarket head unit in place as imo the stock looks hideous.
Any further information I'm happy to provide.
Currently own a 2010 Swift Sport (ZC31S).
Can't really estimate a mileage I do per week but around 12k per year, fill up with Tesco Momentum only at about £20-£40 a week depending on if I travel to places other than just work and back. (37.5 MPG reported)
Overall the 4k revs whilst at 70 is a bit of a pain but you get used to it, music can easily drain it out.
The drive in the car is a lot of fun and can be taken around a few B-Roads to enjoy.
In mine I have a aftermarket head unit in place as imo the stock looks hideous.
Any further information I'm happy to provide.
We have a 2006, have had it for 18 months now. It is showing 124k miles now.
Using either Tesco 99 or Sainsbury's premium we can get up to 40mpg, however we normally get early/mid 30s as we use the car for various club motorsport events (12-Car tonight, Targa on Sunday).
There have been a few rattles, I have generally just packed out behind the offending part with something soft.
Reliability is good, I have not had to do much impromptu work other than CV boots.
The engine always ticks for a bit on cold start up - is normal.
The drivers seat bolster material gets worn through.
We run on 15" wheels now rather than the standard 17", is a bit low but is better overall.
Using either Tesco 99 or Sainsbury's premium we can get up to 40mpg, however we normally get early/mid 30s as we use the car for various club motorsport events (12-Car tonight, Targa on Sunday).
There have been a few rattles, I have generally just packed out behind the offending part with something soft.
Reliability is good, I have not had to do much impromptu work other than CV boots.
The engine always ticks for a bit on cold start up - is normal.
The drivers seat bolster material gets worn through.
We run on 15" wheels now rather than the standard 17", is a bit low but is better overall.
tomv1to said:
I have a 2017 and the head unit displays the graphics from Spotify and will answer calls and if I'm using the sat nav it dims the music. I don't really use the sat nav itself very often though, it has a habit of crashing and it's nowhere near as useful as Waze. I would be tempted to change out the hi fi to a different unit.
I've got the same SLDA head unit in my 2017 Baleno. There are a couple of European software updates for it on the interwebs, including one for Android Auto. Mine doesn't crash. Agree that a smarphone is probably more use, I wouldn't have paid extra for the SLDA, but it was 'free' with the car. It pays stuff on shuffle from a USB stick and the sound quality seems OK. Phone integration for calls is OK.
Map updates are on Ebay at £40 or so. I haven't bothered with those, either. :-)
PaulV said:
The engine always ticks for a bit on cold start up - is normal.
My 2013 Sport is a bit noisy from cold, but very quiet when warmed up. As you say it's to be expected from having solid lifters with shim adjustment rather than hydraulic. I typical get between 40-45mpg, though managed to average 48mpg for several weeks by just avoiding any hard acceleration and keeping RPM as low as possible.I have only one major gripe with the car; the ECU mapping.
1) It's ridiculously sluggish when the engine is cold and ambient temperatures are low, and feels like it's running lean despite the coolant sensor reporting quite reasonable values via OBD2, and also a new MAF sensor (which did help a little). From what others have said on the now defunct Swift Sport forum this appears to be "normal" behaviour. I'm not trying to thrash it from cold BTW, just normal driving.
2) The ECU occasionally interferes with the use of engine braking by opening the throttle slightly. This is quite uncomfortable as changing down before entering a bend (the the engine at a fairly high rpm) results in almost no retardation. Likewise descending steep hills can require more use of brakes as changing down often does nothing except increase RPM. Does anyone know if this can be fixed by a remap without ruining the economy?
For commuting make sure you go for a Swift with a 6 speed gearbox the extra ratio will keep the noise down. Also the 5 speed boxes are weaker on the early mk1s.
A few months ago EVO mag did a buyers guide for the NA swift and concluded that its a great buy, cheap, reliable and fun. Plus it won't be as hard to break the traffic laws as your Honda!
A few months ago EVO mag did a buyers guide for the NA swift and concluded that its a great buy, cheap, reliable and fun. Plus it won't be as hard to break the traffic laws as your Honda!
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