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Does anyone have any experience of S14 200sx's?
Seems to be a few reasonable 80K mile'ish examples going for around £3k at the moment so it looks like for 4k you could have something pretty handy?
Any weak points on them or is it a case of decent downpipe, FMIC and up the boost to somewhere around 1bar (take it the standard map goes that far?) and enjoy.
Cheers
Matt
Seems to be a few reasonable 80K mile'ish examples going for around £3k at the moment so it looks like for 4k you could have something pretty handy?
Any weak points on them or is it a case of decent downpipe, FMIC and up the boost to somewhere around 1bar (take it the standard map goes that far?) and enjoy.
Cheers
Matt
Air filter, exhaust and decat and a boost tweak will see these sort of figures. Mine is running ~250 at the hubs with these mods.tuttle said:
Quite a few ppl fit Niss zx32 AFM's for extending range.Downside is price of 2nd hand ones can be as much as £200.00 rip off.
Only really want 250bhp or there abouts out of it - just going to be a run around really that can handle a bit of track work occasionaly. Mild tweeks and Nismo suspension package ought to do it.
If I decide to 'go to town' on it I'd probably put it on MBE rather than spend a similar amount sorting the standard management to run it properly. Has the added advantage of TPS/MAP as well so no AMM to suck through!
Spotted a nice 1999 dark blue one on the trader for £4K - time to get haggling
Matt
Matt_fp said:
Only really want 250bhp or there abouts out of it - just going to be a run around really that can handle a bit of track work occasionaly. Mild tweeks and Nismo suspension package ought to do it.
If I decide to 'go to town' on it I'd probably put it on MBE rather than spend a similar amount sorting the standard management to run it properly. Has the added advantage of TPS/MAP as well so no AMM to suck through!
Spotted a nice 1999 dark blue one on the trader for £4K - time to get haggling
Matt
Have a look at the traders section on www.sxoc.com, both SRB power and Apex performance are good. You probably want to look at Tein for suspension, Nismo stuff is rather pricey!
Be careful with messing about with the ECU on the S14a's, the alarm and immobiliser are built in which makes remapping/changing to another ECU a bit tricky.
NikB said:
Only really want 250bhp or there abouts out of it - just going to be a run around really that can handle a bit of track work occasionaly. Mild tweeks and Nismo suspension package ought to do it.
If I decide to 'go to town' on it I'd probably put it on MBE rather than spend a similar amount sorting the standard management to run it properly. Has the added advantage of TPS/MAP as well so no AMM to suck through!
Spotted a nice 1999 dark blue one on the trader for £4K - time to get haggling
Matt
Have a look at the traders section on www.sxoc.com, both SRB power and Apex performance are good. You probably want to look at Tein for suspension, Nismo stuff is rather pricey!
Be careful with messing about with the ECU on the S14a's, the alarm and immobiliser are built in which makes remapping/changing to another ECU a bit tricky.
Have a Nismo contact so can get a fair % off the retail price.
Whats the deal with the ECU - doesn't it store immobiliser, alarm, ancillary control etc. on a different chip (or at least at a completely seperate address if all on one chip) to the maps?
At the end of the day its only wiring so getting rid of the standard gear isn't much of a problem.
At the moment my thinking is along the lines of FMIC, made from one of the prototype IC's I have spare, some fancy Jap shiny boost controller, re-map/re-chip for fueling purposes, colder plugs, exhaust and some sort of induction modification if the standard airbox proves restrictive + Nismo suspension. Should bag around 250bhp I'd have thought, maybe a touch more if theres fuel/range for it and all do-able in a weekend.
Matt
Matt_fp said:
Only really want 250bhp or there abouts out of it - just going to be a run around really that can handle a bit of track work occasionaly. Mild tweeks and Nismo suspension package ought to do it.
You say that now but you'll get used to it and it'll stop feeling fast
. Then you'll be after more boost, forged pistions, high-flow cams and a bigger turbo 
iaint said:
Only really want 250bhp or there abouts out of it - just going to be a run around really that can handle a bit of track work occasionaly. Mild tweeks and Nismo suspension package ought to do it.
You say that now but you'll get used to it and it'll stop feeling fast
The various FP fettled Nobles I work with make pretty much everything else seem rediculously slow so I've given up trying to keep up with them (in power terms anyway)
If it goes sideways I'll be happy enough...... for a while anyway
Matt
Worth a punt?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=18238&item=4537890006&rd=1
Could probably bag that for sub 2K and if its not in too much of a state put it back to mint with modifications for the same again. A quick look under the cam cover should show what sort of life its lead.
BTW done a bit of digging on S14A ECU's, they have a secondary bus, possible for diagnostic or upgrade that allows you to solder in a link to a daughter card containing your new chip and then just switch jumpers to point it at the new bus rather than the old one for engine management duties. Job done and all immobiliser/alarm data is left as standard.
Matt
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=18238&item=4537890006&rd=1
Could probably bag that for sub 2K and if its not in too much of a state put it back to mint with modifications for the same again. A quick look under the cam cover should show what sort of life its lead.
BTW done a bit of digging on S14A ECU's, they have a secondary bus, possible for diagnostic or upgrade that allows you to solder in a link to a daughter card containing your new chip and then just switch jumpers to point it at the new bus rather than the old one for engine management duties. Job done and all immobiliser/alarm data is left as standard.
Matt
matt_fp said:
Worth a punt?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=18238&item=4537890006&rd=1
Could probably bag that for sub 2K and if its not in too much of a state put it back to mint with modifications for the same again. A quick look under the cam cover should show what sort of life its lead.
BTW done a bit of digging on S14A ECU's, they have a secondary bus, possible for diagnostic or upgrade that allows you to solder in a link to a daughter card containing your new chip and then just switch jumpers to point it at the new bus rather than the old one for engine management duties. Job done and all immobiliser/alarm data is left as standard.
Matt
Looks quite clean, the only thing it's missing is the service history. Probably means that the oil has not been changed regularly which may mean shortened turbo/big end life span (but I don't need to tell you that!). There are quite a lot of cars coming up for breaking now, so it's getting easier to find replacement engines/turbos.
Interesting info about the ECU, I know that one guy took a while to crack the S14a ECU because of the alarm/imob issue. Maybe he went about it in a different way. You will easily make it to the 250-280 mark without touching the ECU.
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