Opinions on this Chaps...

[Pulsatingstar]

Just ignore it. Its pretty common place on here that Jap cars arnt much liked.

I cant be bothered with arguements, Ill just laugh when I tear through them in 5th

[Mr E]

Ho ho.

If anything, the Evo is quoted at less BHP than it really has.

Mine should have 240-250bhp. I've seen stock cars put 200+ to the wheels, so guessing 260ish at the fly.

Toyota didn't want the GT-Four (255PS) stealing sales from the Jap spec Supra TT (280PS - but really quite a few more).

[tuttle]

Hmmmm,Jap manufs' tend to Understate power figs if anything.
I should ignore this ignorant tw*t,if I were you,he's obviously still confused about which is his ars* & which is his elbow.

[trackdemon]

Quite. I've always thought it common knowledge that the japs underquoted the power outputs of most of the top-end stuff because of the silly "gentlemans agreement" to "limit" cars to 280PS (anyone know why that figure?); eg:

Skyline - 1500kg, 286bhp, 4wd trans losses but still 0-60mph sub 5.0? No way. I'd be suprised if the Supra, NSX, 300ZX, EVO, et al were below 300 "real" bhp given the relative performance of the vehicles. I wasn't *that* far behind a 360 Modena at VMAX, supposedly with another 124bhp over my car as well as the benefit of a 6 speed box.

[The DJ 27]

The true power figure for a Supra is about 330bhp IIRC (I'm sure gazboy will correct me on this). Can't see a 300ZX or Skyline being much less than that.

[tuttle]

Anyone wishing to do their own conversion,or just get the facts right in an argument Here's how to workit quick.
Power Conversion: ps to bhp examples:
1.0 Japanese PS = 0.98632 BHP
50 PS = 49.3 BHP
100 PS = 98.6 BHP
120 PS = 118.4 BHP
150 PS = 147.9 BHP
180 PS = 177.5 BHP
200 PS = 197.3 BHP
OR to do own DIY conversions
to convert BHP to KW multiply by 0.7457
"--------" KW to BHP "-----" by 1.3410
to convert BHP to PS "-----" by 1.0139
"--------" PS to BHP "-----" by 0.9863

[vixpy1]

The UK evo's read bang on what Mitsi says. Almost to the horsepower.

[Mr E]

Yup. 2 litre turbo, 250 bhp. 3 litre twin turbo, 276bhp? Don't think so. Don't think so at all.

[nighthawk]

PS is a german unit of measurement, not a japanese one. I can't see where or why that guy thought japanese quoted horse power is greater than "good old english horses" some people just can't accept there is more to motoring life than a tvr.

[nighthawk]

Maybe so Gaz, the UK has used it since around 1990 too.

PS is an abbrievation for Pferdestärke, which roughly translates to horse strength.

[daftlad]

Gazboy said:

nighthawk said: PS is a german unit of measurement, not a japanese one. The Japs have been using PS for ages.

My apologies. The Japs used to quote SAE. Something I assumed they still did. I was also wrong with the relative values.
Nothing against Jap motors chaps, had lots of their motor cars and motor cycles.

>> Edited by daftlad on Monday 28th March 16:35

>> Edited by daftlad on Monday 28th March 16:41

[daftlad]

tuttle said:

Hmmmm,Jap manufs' tend to Understate power figs if anything. I should ignore this ignorant tw*t,if I were you,he's obviously still confused about which is his ars* & which is his elbow.

Tut tut. Not very PC - or open.

[tuttle]

Naturally

[tuttle]

No hard feelings intended DaftLad.
I feel we put up with a fair amount of Jap bashing(often ill informed,imo).I'm the first to admit that I can be a little defensive/oversensitive sometimes.

So, happy & safe driving fella
Regards
Matt-(OAP also)

[M@H]

Anyone who thinks a standard 4.0 Chimaera is putting in the region of 230-240bhp out is being VERY optimistic anyway.

Matt.

[M@H]

..blimey, I wouldn't have thought that just an air filter change would have made such a difference to a blown motor !!

[daftlad]

tuttle said:

No hard feelings intended DaftLad. I feel we put up with a fair amount of Jap bashing(often ill informed,imo).I'm the first to admit that I can be a little defensive/oversensitive sometimes. So, happy & safe driving fella Regards Matt-(OAP also)

Well thank you. Very nice of you to post this.

Happy & safe driving to you too.

[Mr E]

Gazboy said:

turbo's love air!

You should hear the *noise* when on boost.

[tuttle]

Mr E said:

Gazboy said: turbo's love air! You should hear the *noise* when on boost.

Its one of those 'to live for things...'


Gazboy,I can't get the 'at wheels' chart link to work

>> Edited by tuttle on Wednesday 30th March 10:24