Lexus RX300 - ATF Change or Not?

Lexus RX300 - ATF Change or Not?

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jdwoodbury

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1,344 posts

212 months

Monday 9th February 2015
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Hi All,

We have an 110k mile Lexus RX300 (2nd Gen) which we use for family workhorse duties. Its been 100% reliable so far, no issues at all, when it completed is 100k service (big one) I asked my independent if the auto-box should have a refill at this mileage. He told me its sealed for life and not to bother with a change, now I can see it has a drain plug so I expect Lexus would want you to change it at some point. No major issue with the gear change but it can be slow witted at times (but I think that's a trait), just more interested in long term preventative maintenance.

Thoughts welcome.

liner33

10,759 posts

208 months

Tuesday 10th February 2015
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No such thing as a sealed for life autobox IMO. Merc claimed the same for my e class but dramatic improvement in shifting when changing the fluid at 50k , same with my skyline , and my 370 suto will be getting its oil,changed at 5 years /50k

For what it costs , do it

lexusboy

1,099 posts

149 months

Wednesday 11th February 2015
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I would imagine he said that due to having to fill it via the dipstick iirc which is a pain in the ass.

Again from what I can remember on the service check lists it's only ever a check and then a change if deemed appropriate.

lexusboy

1,099 posts

149 months

Wednesday 11th February 2015
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I would imagine he said that due to having to fill it via the dipstick iirc which is a pain in the ass.

Again from what I can remember on the service check lists it's only ever a check and then a change if deemed appropriate.

liner33

10,759 posts

208 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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Atf is pretty thin so easy to pour in , it's worth doing properly and dropping the pan and changing any filters if gutted , failing that you can use and extraction pump and suck a few litres out at a time that's what I did on my skyline

jdwoodbury

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1,344 posts

212 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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lexusboy said:
I would imagine he said that due to having to fill it via the dipstick iirc which is a pain in the ass.

Again from what I can remember on the service check lists it's only ever a check and then a change if deemed appropriate.
Yep the book says only change if you regularly drive in harsh conditions or tow.

hygt2

419 posts

185 months

Friday 13th February 2015
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Can you inspect the fluid? Is the a dipstick? Have a smell, any burnt smell then change it. Wipe the dipstick with a white cloth, is it a bright pink colour? If the fluid is turning into red, or even worse brown, then change it.

If you plan to keep the car long term, then change it. It is a good preventative measure anyway.

  • check if it takes special fluid though and don't under or over fill - use competent mechanics or DIY. Reason I add this is because some cars, like the CVT in Murano, take special fluid and not standard ATF

thatdude

2,657 posts

133 months

Friday 13th February 2015
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My wife owns a BMW 120d auto. BMW use ZF gearboxes on these cars.

BMW have told me that they do not recommend any servicing (as in, they dont have it down as a service item, its sealed-for-life blah blah).

However....

...being a chemist, I understand that organic compounds / materials degrade with time. And in fact, I would think that anyone dosnt need much education to grasp that so long as they are told it by someone. Heat and mechanical stresses increase the rate of degredation, as does temeprature. So I got on the email to ZF themselves.

They highly recommend a service around 80,000 miles. And that it is an easily serviceable unit.


SO I'll be having my wifes ATF changed at some point by an auto transmission specialist smile

jdwoodbury

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1,344 posts

212 months

Saturday 14th February 2015
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Well i went and did it as my fluid was quite brown, only cost £40 for 5ltrs of fluid from Toyota (Type IV).

liner33

10,759 posts

208 months

Saturday 14th February 2015
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Was 5 litres enough ? Think I need more than 10 in my Skyline