Impreza engines:

[The DJ 27]

Right, a slightly odd question for Jap Chat, but I think I'll get a better response here than in the Kit Car forum. Basically, me and a mate are looking to build a kit car this year (MK Engineering GTR if anyones interested), and are going through various engine options. One thats come up is an Impreza engine, so I was wondering if some of you lot know a company that sells Scooby engines. We don't need the gearbox, which I'm hoping will cut down costs. Needs to be a turbo engine as well.

[Mr E]

There must be somewhere, as I've seen WRX lumps in hill climb specials.

Scoobynet might be a good place to ask.

[The DJ 27]

Ah, never thought of that. A fair few people have put them in VW Beetles as well

[MrFlibbles]

Google is a wonderful thing!

www.centralsubaru.co.uk/

[vixpy1]

I know a bloke who can sort you out with an engine. Email me.

[The DJ 27]

www.mkengineering.co.uk


Sort of Radical style track car but nowhere near as expensive. In standard 215bhp form it'll have more than enough power. The car is mid-engined. It's just one of several options we're looking at

[tuttle]

Good points Gaz,but if you think the imprezza engine is pretty enclosed in its 'natural state' anyway.Work arounds & some ingenious(sp?) routing of airflow etc ought to do-able without too many probs.
Good torque potential would make scooby unit a good choice,imo.
Does it have to be a scooby unit because of size restrictions?

[Caggs]

tuttle said:

Does it have to be a scooby unit because of size restrictions?

No apparentley if we wanted we can get anything upto and including a rover V8 in the back, Supra and other straight 6's may well be a no-no though

200SX Motor came up in conversation in the pub last night which is worthy of investigation!

Thanks
Caggs
(the other kit car builder)

[The DJ 27]

I think for starters whatever engine we use will be left pretty much stock. I'd already planned to put the intercooler for a scooby engine up in the airbox, since from what I've seen that's there just for show. Radiator shouldn't be a problem, plenty of room in the front. The VAG 1.8 turbo engine is the first choice, since we know that will come attached to/will fit the gearbox we need to use. I was just trying to come up with alernatives that might be cheaper, or offer more power and torque for similar money.


Cheers Craig, reminds me to have a look on SXOC for an engine!

[smifffy]

Fairy fluff on the choice of engine.

Be aware it comes in different specs though - There are more variances than ice cream flavours!

Leaving it stock is a good idea, tuning a scoob engine beyond around 350bhp 350ft/lbs is not straightforward.

[The DJ 27]

350bhp would give the car almost 700bhp/tonne. With a stock, boggo spec Scooby turbo engine it will have 400bhp/tonne. I don't think we'd tune it that much, purely because this is a budget car, but we want a decent level of performance. Hence why we're looking at turbo engines

[munter]

www.apiengines.com/ Try these guys. I know a reasonable number of MK1 MR2's driving around with engines supplied by this lot. And they appear to have a whole scooby section.

[Nicol@]

I was going to suggest API too.

I haven't used them but lots of good comments have been posted about them on scoobynet.

[tuttle]

Gazboy said:

tuttle said: Good points Gaz,but if you think the imprezza engine is pretty enclosed in its 'natural state' anyway.Work arounds & some ingenious(sp?) routing of airflow etc ought to do-able without too many probs. Good torque potential would make scooby unit a good choice,imo. Does it have to be a scooby unit because of size restrictions? scoobs have big mouth bumpers, and a tonking great big scoop on the bonnet.

I think we'll just have to agree to differ there mate To my way of thinking a horizontal I/C need more/direct/stronger airflow than a traditional front mounted vertical type,Thermal & flow dynamics & all that chuff. It always amazes me that subaru can get away with it so well.Tho I probably am over paranoid about cooling issues

The suggestion to use Niss 200 SX (RB 18/20) engines is also worthy.Good power/torque increase potential for a fairly low budget,also pretty damn reliable & bomb-proof.Iirc they would be heavier than a scooby unit tho.The guys at sxoc can give you best info.

[The DJ 27]

Gazboy said:

It's probably going to be cheaper to tune it before it's installed (you aren't fitting anything twice). Do you have to run a cat? if not, go de-cat as it helps combat turbo-lag. Might be worth getting a Motec ECU in the first place, so you have options later on???

We do legally have to run a cat, to pass SVA. However, as soon as we leave the test station, it'll be removed. Tuttle, 200SX engines seems to be going for fairly silly money (£1,000 for an engine with 74K on the clock on SXOC). Any ideas of API's prices?

[gazzab]

Try the 2.5 Ltr engine!