Civic Type S or Suzuki Swift 1.5?
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Hello folks! Need a little advice...
Firstly, with equalish mileage (74k Swift vs 86k Civic), which is likely to be the more reliable, an 05 Civic or an 07 Swift. I've read the gearbox horror stories with both, and frankly, don't know which one is the more likely to suffer this issue... Insurance wise, neither are a bother. However, this leads me on to my second point...
On the test drive of the Civic the MIL light came on. The owner is getting that fixed, which is really cool, but it does have a unsettling effect!
The other issue is the gearbox - With the clutch pedal down the engine is supremely smooth and quiet. With the clutch pedal up, there's a noticeable chatter from the gearbox/clutch. It's not super loud, and there's no whining or grinding, but I don't know if this is normal? When driving there are no odd sounds I can hear.
With the Swift, the gear shift is positive but definately not light. Likewise with it's clutch. Doesn't feel terrible, just not the light toytown clutch most Japanese cars I've driven have....
So, I need advice as to which will be the more reliable. Both are warmish hatches, without being sporty, but with my other half just passing her test, we can't get anything too crazy anyway. One joker wanted £193 fully comp for me only, but £6,134 for the two of us for the Civic. That said, both are insurable.
Thanks for any insight you guys can offer. Especially with the gearbox noise/swift slightly stiff shift issues...
Firstly, with equalish mileage (74k Swift vs 86k Civic), which is likely to be the more reliable, an 05 Civic or an 07 Swift. I've read the gearbox horror stories with both, and frankly, don't know which one is the more likely to suffer this issue... Insurance wise, neither are a bother. However, this leads me on to my second point...
On the test drive of the Civic the MIL light came on. The owner is getting that fixed, which is really cool, but it does have a unsettling effect!
The other issue is the gearbox - With the clutch pedal down the engine is supremely smooth and quiet. With the clutch pedal up, there's a noticeable chatter from the gearbox/clutch. It's not super loud, and there's no whining or grinding, but I don't know if this is normal? When driving there are no odd sounds I can hear.
With the Swift, the gear shift is positive but definately not light. Likewise with it's clutch. Doesn't feel terrible, just not the light toytown clutch most Japanese cars I've driven have....
So, I need advice as to which will be the more reliable. Both are warmish hatches, without being sporty, but with my other half just passing her test, we can't get anything too crazy anyway. One joker wanted £193 fully comp for me only, but £6,134 for the two of us for the Civic. That said, both are insurable.
Thanks for any insight you guys can offer. Especially with the gearbox noise/swift slightly stiff shift issues...
At that age and mileage both could have problems. The swift will be cheaper to fix though and also a lot more diyable.
Civic noise could be a clutch release bearing.
I like the keyless system on the swift and it's a fun car to drive. I get over 40 mpg out of mine, usually brisk a and B roads.
Civic noise could be a clutch release bearing.
I like the keyless system on the swift and it's a fun car to drive. I get over 40 mpg out of mine, usually brisk a and B roads.
I've run both a Swift 1.5 GLX and a Swift Sport Mk1. Utterly reliable cars that have never missed a beat. Only thing to go wrong on the 1.5 was a failed lambda sensor that I replaced myself in 10 mins. Other than that, not a thing in around 30,000 miles of motoring.
The Swift Sport is an absolute hoot too.
The Swift Sport is an absolute hoot too.
Is this Civic the EP3 shape (previous model) with 2.0 engine and 160hp?
If so, then obviously it's a much bigger and more powerful car than the Swift, and pretty bombproof too. If the difference in insurance and fuel economy isn't a big issue then I'd take the Civic.
If you want a smaller car and running costs are critical then the Swift.
There's also the issue of which you and your partner prefer driving, and mileage/condition etc.
I'm guessing the Swift might hang on to more of it's value, in the current market, being a smaller and more economical car.
If so, then obviously it's a much bigger and more powerful car than the Swift, and pretty bombproof too. If the difference in insurance and fuel economy isn't a big issue then I'd take the Civic.
If you want a smaller car and running costs are critical then the Swift.
There's also the issue of which you and your partner prefer driving, and mileage/condition etc.
I'm guessing the Swift might hang on to more of it's value, in the current market, being a smaller and more economical car.
Civic, sounds like thrust bearing is failing. Also, MIL warning light could be serious. It needs someone to read the data from the ODB port to check the fault codes.
Swift, sounds like the clutch is on the way out..
You are likely to be putting your hand in your pocket very quickly!
Swift, sounds like the clutch is on the way out..
You are likely to be putting your hand in your pocket very quickly!
Edited by Tonto on Sunday 22 February 06:24
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