any 240z owners here?
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i posted up on the Scotland section and had little reply.
I currently have an E46 M3 which i have had for 18months, a truely wonderful car, brilliant at everything. Trouble is it is no longer my daily so its at the side fo the drive and as great as it is I havent used it since i bought my Van. I have had a few older classic types in the past, an M535i two years ago which i loved. But the 240z is a car i have loved since i first saw one 20 oatcake years ago.
Some words of wisdom, gratitious pictures, and ownership tales of wallet raping versus pleasure please!
I currently have an E46 M3 which i have had for 18months, a truely wonderful car, brilliant at everything. Trouble is it is no longer my daily so its at the side fo the drive and as great as it is I havent used it since i bought my Van. I have had a few older classic types in the past, an M535i two years ago which i loved. But the 240z is a car i have loved since i first saw one 20 oatcake years ago.
Some words of wisdom, gratitious pictures, and ownership tales of wallet raping versus pleasure please!
Have a 74 Datsun 240Z. 2 owner car and 34.5k miles from new. Car is mint but I think relatively unknown in the Z circles. Bought a 260Z for my son from the Z Farm and then bought this one for him a few weeks later - again from Z Farm.
Only advice I would give is watch out for rust - this is the death of most of the Z's.
They seem to be bullet proof but we have had to replace brakes, shockers etc, all the things that need replacement through lack of use.
Only advice I would give is watch out for rust - this is the death of most of the Z's.
They seem to be bullet proof but we have had to replace brakes, shockers etc, all the things that need replacement through lack of use.
As Tony has said above about rust,buy on condition rather than age or location. Good ones are now getting harder to find & most parts are still available,try Mike at www.mjpauto.com first for spares. William Galliers in Shropshire occasionally has some very nice hand picked Z's from the States available.
There are plenty of options available to you,keep it original or modify it,import LHD or RHD? Because the engine bay is huge compared with more recent cars some owners have V8's under the bonnet,M3 conversions & even Supra turbo's/RB25 & 26's are also possible.
I sold my modified 240Z a couple of months ago after owning it for over 6 years & still find myself browsing adverts looking for another. Buy one,drive it & enjoy it :cloud9
There are plenty of options available to you,keep it original or modify it,import LHD or RHD? Because the engine bay is huge compared with more recent cars some owners have V8's under the bonnet,M3 conversions & even Supra turbo's/RB25 & 26's are also possible.
I sold my modified 240Z a couple of months ago after owning it for over 6 years & still find myself browsing adverts looking for another. Buy one,drive it & enjoy it :cloud9
AstonTony said:
Have a 74 Datsun 240Z.
It will be a 1973 build. Nissan never made any 240Zs in 1974.istoo said:
Some words of wisdom, gratitious pictures, and ownership tales of wallet raping versus pleasure please!
One thing I always ask a prospective purchaser is how much they *think* they will have to pay for a good one. Nine times out of ten they greatly underestimate what the good ones change hands for these days. These cars are not 'cheap' any more. If you've got a good one it can be relatively inexpensive and fairly easy to look after it. Get a middling one and you might struggle. Buy a bad one and you'll probably end up hating it.
exactly what I was after, thanks folks!
I read about the super samuaris about 10 years ago and got more excited abotu them then. I like classics and like to keep them original but some of these look very nice modified, moreso the look like lightening mcqueen, has to be the base car for pixar!
I have dropped Duncan Pearcy and email, i spoke to him about 10 years ago, but i just didnt have the space or time for one then. Now i do.
There was a nice 260z on classic cars abotu 3 weeks ago, i called aobut it but it sold same day, seemed to cheap, and it probably was. This one interests me http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C410886 ditch the big wheels, cage and an engine, brakes and mechanicals to work on seem right to me.
I have had a few years of track days and fancy the odd one, but maybe some sprinting, hillclimbs. Any of you chaps had a cage fitted to your cars?
Nice to hear they are reliable, i had a few old quattros in the past which all have terrible brakes, suspension setups.
I am way of buying a dog, i have done that before! I want a clean shell to start with at the least. The rest is replacable the way see it. Depending on condition and work required budget extends to 15k max, but i would be expecting to have a car that needs nothing. is that unrealistic?
I read about the super samuaris about 10 years ago and got more excited abotu them then. I like classics and like to keep them original but some of these look very nice modified, moreso the look like lightening mcqueen, has to be the base car for pixar!
I have dropped Duncan Pearcy and email, i spoke to him about 10 years ago, but i just didnt have the space or time for one then. Now i do.
There was a nice 260z on classic cars abotu 3 weeks ago, i called aobut it but it sold same day, seemed to cheap, and it probably was. This one interests me http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C410886 ditch the big wheels, cage and an engine, brakes and mechanicals to work on seem right to me.
I have had a few years of track days and fancy the odd one, but maybe some sprinting, hillclimbs. Any of you chaps had a cage fitted to your cars?
Nice to hear they are reliable, i had a few old quattros in the past which all have terrible brakes, suspension setups.
I am way of buying a dog, i have done that before! I want a clean shell to start with at the least. The rest is replacable the way see it. Depending on condition and work required budget extends to 15k max, but i would be expecting to have a car that needs nothing. is that unrealistic?
I think that you would pick up a relatively good 240/260 for around £15k, that said if you wanted a really good one you could add another £10k to that. Most desirable ones to buy are the 2 seaters, not the 2+2.
Some will say I am talking rubbish but there is no way you would buy a mint example for any less.
In answer to the other comments, no this was not Rahills car. This is an unknown car that has spent many a year in storage. It's provenance is unquestionable and i would say its probably one of, if not the best unrestored Z's available today.
It is a 74 registered car, not sure when it was built......72, 73 ??
I really fancy a modified one but getting that one past the missus will take a bit more negotiation
Some will say I am talking rubbish but there is no way you would buy a mint example for any less.
In answer to the other comments, no this was not Rahills car. This is an unknown car that has spent many a year in storage. It's provenance is unquestionable and i would say its probably one of, if not the best unrestored Z's available today.
It is a 74 registered car, not sure when it was built......72, 73 ??
I really fancy a modified one but getting that one past the missus will take a bit more negotiation
i am not keen on the roof line of the 2+2 to be honest, something amiss in the shape for me. mint examples are rising in value for sure. Prices do seem to wander quite a bit. I like making something a little bit me, modified i dont mind, but its a fine line... i really like the RS watanabe wheels, no idea where to find them!
I like 2000GTs but they seem to go for astronomic money.
Re the missus comment, first question...I got the 'what does it look like?' so i scoured for a nicely modified picture, and said 'like that...' reply of 'thats nice', therefore budget is completely approved, in my head at least.
Storage, i plan having this as a garaged car that comes out in the summer months. I dont fancy keeping it outside, especially given the rust issues. Is this normal fair?
I like 2000GTs but they seem to go for astronomic money.
Re the missus comment, first question...I got the 'what does it look like?' so i scoured for a nicely modified picture, and said 'like that...' reply of 'thats nice', therefore budget is completely approved, in my head at least.
Storage, i plan having this as a garaged car that comes out in the summer months. I dont fancy keeping it outside, especially given the rust issues. Is this normal fair?
istoo said:
There was a nice 260z on classic cars abotu 3 weeks ago, i called aobut it but it sold same day, seemed to cheap, and it probably was. This one interests me http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C410886 ditch the big wheels, cage and an engine, brakes and mechanicals to work on seem right to me.
That car would not be a wise buy. There's a good reason ( actually many ) why it's up for sale at that price and has not sold. Avoid. istoo said:
I am way of buying a dog, i have done that before! I want a clean shell to start with at the least. The rest is replacable the way see it. Depending on condition and work required budget extends to 15k max, but i would be expecting to have a car that needs nothing. is that unrealistic?
Yes, I think so. I can't help feeling that you believe you're going to get something much better for 15k than you really will. The better cars for sale in the UK would be well north of 20k by now, and the best knocking 30k. Your budget is likely to get something that still needs a fair amount of work, and it very likely won't have anything like as clean a 'shell as you'd hope.
At the very least, you need to see as many cars as you can in order to compare them. That's quite tricky in the UK as there are not usually all that many for sale at any one time.
AstonTony said:
It is a 74 registered car, not sure when it was built......72, 73 ??
Quite likely to have been built in 1973 if it's an original UK market car and was first registered in 1974. Nissan stopped building HS30 and HLS30-prefixed cars before the end of 1973 ( September, if I remember correctly ). You can date it more accurately ( within a month or so of its real build date ) if you are interested in knowing. Anyway, it's not a 1974 240Z.
Keep looking as this 260 cost less than 15k not too long ago. It wasn't mint but from bulkhead on was concours. Bought it off Duncan at Z Farm where work was done.
I wouldn't keep outside and wouldn't use in winter. Am lucky as have garages for the cars.
Keep looking as something will crop up.
PZR, car is a UK reg car. Not too worried about knowing when it was made, suspect I may ask Mike at MJP at some point if we ever decide to sell (not likely though). Would sell the DBS before the 240z
As I said, it is a 74 reg car, not going to argue its build date.
I wouldn't keep outside and wouldn't use in winter. Am lucky as have garages for the cars.
Keep looking as something will crop up.
PZR, car is a UK reg car. Not too worried about knowing when it was made, suspect I may ask Mike at MJP at some point if we ever decide to sell (not likely though). Would sell the DBS before the 240z
As I said, it is a 74 reg car, not going to argue its build date.
Edited by AstonTony on Sunday 3rd November 19:41
AstonTony said:
PZR, car is a UK reg car. Not too worried about knowing when it was made, suspect I may ask Mike at MJP at some point if we ever decide to sell (not likely though).
UK registered RHD car doesn't necessarily mean it was built as a UK market car. The distinction is significant. There are a few non-UK market RHD cars floating around in the UK, and in some cases the owners haven't actually realised what they owned....I don't understand the emphasis on the UK registration date? It's when the car was built that's important. Important for spec, important for sourcing spares and service parts, and important for value. And just important - generally - to know what you've actually got.
PZR said:
AstonTony said:
PZR, car is a UK reg car. Not too worried about knowing when it was made, suspect I may ask Mike at MJP at some point if we ever decide to sell (not likely though).
UK registered RHD car doesn't necessarily mean it was built as a UK market car. The distinction is significant. There are a few non-UK market RHD cars floating around in the UK, and in some cases the owners haven't actually realised what they owned....I don't understand the emphasis on the UK registration date? It's when the car was built that's important. Important for spec, important for sourcing spares and service parts, and important for value. And just important - generally - to know what you've actually got.
I bought this as a present for my son and have the original bill of sale from the UK so if it is a non UK version there's not really a lot we can do some near 40 years on.
Having said that, don't really care where or when it was built, all I know is that it's a 240z and we like it......that's all that matters.
Duncan, if you are checking this thread, maybe you want to put PZR in a more informed position?
Anyway, let's not argue about my sons car
AstonTony said:
Seems that you are more bothered than we are
I bought this as a present for my son and have the original bill of sale from the UK so if it is a non UK version there's not really a lot we can do some near 40 years on.
Having said that, don't really care where or when it was built, all I know is that it's a 240z and we like it......that's all that matters.
Duncan, if you are checking this thread, maybe you want to put PZR in a more informed position?
Anyway, let's not argue about my sons car
As much as I like and respect Duncan, I don't think he's going to put me "in a more informed position" with regard to dating these cars. Nor is Mike at MJP. To be blunt, it's usually them who are asking me.I bought this as a present for my son and have the original bill of sale from the UK so if it is a non UK version there's not really a lot we can do some near 40 years on.
Having said that, don't really care where or when it was built, all I know is that it's a 240z and we like it......that's all that matters.
Duncan, if you are checking this thread, maybe you want to put PZR in a more informed position?
Anyway, let's not argue about my sons car
Personally speaking, I find it hard to relate to somebody who professes to like and care about a car - so much so that they post a photo and description of it on an online forum - but then say they "don't care" when exactly it was made and appear to have been under the impression it was built a year after the factory stopped production of them and moved onto different models. Bizarre.
Takes all sorts, I guess.
Cheers
My brother's 240 -seemed a late reg one.260Z starts in April 74?
The vehicle details for NEH 556M are:
Date of Liability 01 09 2000
Date of First Registration 01 11 1973
Year of Manufacture Not Available
Found a 1974 240z-so only 4 months of sales.
HMLeft has 7 on database of 161 sold
Date of Liability 01 04 2014
Date of First Registration 14 01 1974
Year of Manufacture Not Available
These are N regs- last official uk registered? But HML has one 1975- could be import , could be late reg
(Btw i appreciate it does not relate to build)
And yes build , history , provenance is important
The vehicle details for NEH 556M are:
Date of Liability 01 09 2000
Date of First Registration 01 11 1973
Year of Manufacture Not Available
Found a 1974 240z-so only 4 months of sales.
HMLeft has 7 on database of 161 sold
Date of Liability 01 04 2014
Date of First Registration 14 01 1974
Year of Manufacture Not Available
These are N regs- last official uk registered? But HML has one 1975- could be import , could be late reg
(Btw i appreciate it does not relate to build)
And yes build , history , provenance is important
Edited by tali1 on Monday 4th November 00:37
Edited by tali1 on Monday 4th November 18:17
PZR said:
As much as I like and respect Duncan, I don't think he's going to put me "in a more informed position" with regard to dating these cars. Nor is Mike at MJP. To be blunt, it's usually them who are asking me.
Personally speaking, I find it hard to relate to somebody who professes to like and care about a car - so much so that they post a photo and description of it on an online forum - but then say they "don't care" when exactly it was made and appear to have been under the impression it was built a year after the factory stopped production of them and moved onto different models. Bizarre.
Takes all sorts, I guess.
Cheers
I think that you should read 'exactly' what I have consistently said.Personally speaking, I find it hard to relate to somebody who professes to like and care about a car - so much so that they post a photo and description of it on an online forum - but then say they "don't care" when exactly it was made and appear to have been under the impression it was built a year after the factory stopped production of them and moved onto different models. Bizarre.
Takes all sorts, I guess.
Cheers
At NO point have I said the car was made in 74. I have only said it was registered in 74, which is the date on its log book. What is your issue with this?
I have always said that I don't know when it was manufactured, 72, 73...... not sure.
I am sure that you are correct with its build date, I was never saying that a car was built after production ceased.
What exactly do you find bizarre about the facts I have posted?
Cannot understand what your beef with me is, especially as you seem to keep misreading and misreporting what I am saying.
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