£9,000 Evo - a good idea?
£9,000 Evo - a good idea?
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PompeyPaul

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519 posts

206 months

Saturday 27th August 2011
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Hi guys,

As the title suggests, I have recently sold my boring diesel and have £9,000 (give or take a little) to spend on my next car. I have previously owned a 2005 Subarua Impreza STI Tupe UK with PPP which was great fun.

I am looking at the Evo, but know very little about them. Obviously a little less common than the Subaru with regard to how many you see about. One concern I have is the apparent 3 month / 4000 service intervals. I am likely to be doing around 6,000 miles a year - will this still require 3 monthly service and what is the average cost for these services and what is done?

Also what will the real life day to day costs be (tyres, fuel, maintanance etc).

And also - what would be the best model to aim for? Having had a top spec Scooby before putting out over, I would want something at least as quick, if not quicker still!

Many thanks in anticipation,

Paul

yos

103 posts

211 months

Saturday 27th August 2011
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Definatly a good idea they are the best car ive ever had ,You can spend a fortune modifying or keep them standard .
If your serious about an evo look on the MLR under evos for sale some bargains there at the moment due to the car market on its arse and the state the countrys/worlds in economically.
Most people service theyre cars themselves ,with a service kit from opie oils for about £130/£150 ish so service intervals are no problem.
Just for the record you will get the modifying bug and spend and spend but thats part of the fun Good luck

mrmr96

13,736 posts

227 months

Saturday 27th August 2011
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PompeyPaul said:
One concern I have is the apparent 3 month / 4000 service intervals. I am likely to be doing around 6,000 miles a year - will this still require 3 monthly service and what is the average cost for these services and what is done?
Servicing is required every 6m or 4,500 miles, whichever is sooner.
PompeyPaul said:
Also what will the real life day to day costs be (tyres, fuel, maintanance etc).
Tyres are 235/45 ZR 17 so not super expensive really. How quick they get used up depends on the compound you go for and how you drive.
PompeyPaul said:
And also - what would be the best model to aim for? Having had a top spec Scooby before putting out over, I would want something at least as quick, if not quicker still!

Many thanks in anticipation,

Paul
Hah, Evo's are generally quicker than Subarus (but I'm bias) for more info on the model differences head over the Mitsubishi Lancer Register and get chatting. smile

paulmoonraker

2,850 posts

186 months

Saturday 27th August 2011
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mrmr96 said:
Hah, Evo's are generally quicker than Subarus (but I'm bias) for more info on the model differences head over the Mitsubishi Lancer Register and get chatting. smile
People tend to compare cars with entirely different BHP output. Would you say the Evo with 260bhp is quicker than an STi with its 265bhp...

mrmr96

13,736 posts

227 months

Saturday 27th August 2011
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paulmoonraker said:
mrmr96 said:
Hah, Evo's are generally quicker than Subarus (but I'm bias) for more info on the model differences head over the Mitsubishi Lancer Register and get chatting. smile
People tend to compare cars with entirely different BHP output. Would you say the Evo with 260bhp is quicker than an STi with its 265bhp...
I don't know which would be quicker between an Evo and Scooby with the same power output. I'm not arguing which is the 'better chassis' or whatever, just stating that Evo's are generally quicker than Scoobies, because they are. (Because they have more power.)

paulmoonraker

2,850 posts

186 months

Saturday 27th August 2011
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mrmr96 said:
paulmoonraker said:
mrmr96 said:
Hah, Evo's are generally quicker than Subarus (but I'm bias) for more info on the model differences head over the Mitsubishi Lancer Register and get chatting. smile
People tend to compare cars with entirely different BHP output. Would you say the Evo with 260bhp is quicker than an STi with its 265bhp...
I don't know which would be quicker between an Evo and Scooby with the same power output. I'm not arguing which is the 'better chassis' or whatever, just stating that Evo's are generally quicker than Scoobies, because they are. (Because they have more power.)
Agree, the FQ,360 is awesome wink and I would love one

SMcP114

2,916 posts

215 months

Sunday 28th August 2011
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PompeyPaul said:
Hi guys,

As the title suggests, I have recently sold my boring diesel and have £9,000 (give or take a little) to spend on my next car. I have previously owned a 2005 Subarua Impreza STI Tupe UK with PPP which was great fun.

I am looking at the Evo, but know very little about them. Obviously a little less common than the Subaru with regard to how many you see about. One concern I have is the apparent 3 month / 4000 service intervals. I am likely to be doing around 6,000 miles a year - will this still require 3 monthly service and what is the average cost for these services and what is done?

Also what will the real life day to day costs be (tyres, fuel, maintanance etc).

And also - what would be the best model to aim for? Having had a top spec Scooby before putting out over, I would want something at least as quick, if not quicker still!

Many thanks in anticipation,

Paul
Servicing is done around 4000 miles. If they're looked after properly they'll never let you down, try and get one owned by someone who knows what they're talking about as from experience bottom end rebuilds are expensive. At the minute £9,000 would bring you into evo 8 fq's. GSR's can be picked up from around 6k but these have a horrible interior and are harder to insure as they're the jap import. Look out for accident damage, always HPI them, be wary of gearbox and transfer box issues, and consumable such as brake pads etc will set you back a premium. Also listen for engine rattles, boost leaks, misfiring etc as small issues like these could be a part of a much bigger problem.

I generally find evos to be more tunable than their subaru counterpart. An FQ will already come with the superdragger exhaust, so for the sake of talking, a fuel pump, filter and a map should see around 360 bhp on the likes of an FQ300.

mrmr96

13,736 posts

227 months

Sunday 28th August 2011
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SMcP114 said:
An FQ will already come with the superdragger exhaust, so for the sake of talking, a fuel pump, filter and a map should see around 360 bhp on the likes of an FQ300.
I'd also add a decat as a minimum and also a 3 port boost solenoid as a preference.

rsv gone!

11,288 posts

264 months

Sunday 28th August 2011
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PompeyPaul said:
One concern I have is the apparent 3 month / 4000 service intervals. I am likely to be doing around 6,000 miles a year - will this still require 3 monthly service and what is the average cost for these services and what is done?
Servicing is every 4500 miles or every six months, whichever is sooner.

christofmccracke

881 posts

223 months

Monday 29th August 2011
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I've just bought one for 8500 evo 8 fq 260 with mods and it's great although the 19-25 mpg isva bit of a killer though

25mpg was when I used the car to do my normal errands running about with the odd blast and I am getting 19 mpg using mainly as it should be

*Kosta*

911 posts

226 months

Monday 29th August 2011
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I've owned an Evo VIII FQ300 for nearly 60k miles. It is now approaching 90k smile

I've serviced mine more frequently than most other owners would because of the higher mileage I do. Only issue i've had with the car was a head gasket at Christmas. Even that was relatively inexpensive.

They aren't as bad as people make them out to be. It's rare that an engine will let go either. Only really happens when owners are pushing the limits on standard internals (which are capable of 400bhp without the bat of an eyelid) or on highly modified cars.

One of my friends has an VIII MR that has done about 160k. As it has been looked after so well, it is in much better condition that some of the low mileage ones you see.

Get yourself onto the Mitsubishi Lancer Register (www.lancerregister.com) - plenty of information and helpful members smile


UTH

11,618 posts

201 months

Tuesday 30th August 2011
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In short: a great idea. And as people have said, check out the MLR....

bazza1000

294 posts

175 months

Tuesday 30th August 2011
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General running costs and servicing is pretty much identical to Subaru's.

You should be able to get a fairly nice FQ series / GSR Evo 8 for your budget.

As already suggested pop on to the MLR for more info (it's a great club!)

hughandjenny

55 posts

184 months

Friday 2nd September 2011
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Hi
Had an old 911 and a TVR, now have an evo 6 with forged 2.3 engine. WOW what fun, great car, trip to Nurburg being planned for next year. You will not regret it. When looking to buy mine, had approx 8.5k to spend, looked at an 7 and after a drive not that impressed. Bought a 6 with loads of mods and 410bhp, totally different animal. Can be driven as a daily driver on setting 1 on the boost controler. But turn up the boost and put your foot down and everything goes fuzzy.

christofmccracke

881 posts

223 months

Saturday 3rd September 2011
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Evo 7 onwards are more refinedvif you want a more raw experience the earlier models are less refined

Heaveho

6,755 posts

197 months

Sunday 4th September 2011
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I came from a classic Subaru with 260 brake to a GSR Evo 8 with the standard 280ish brake, and ran them both for a while. The Evo felt significantly quicker even when standard. I sold the Subaru after 6 months, and 7 years later, still have the Evo.

The Evo now has 380 brake, and has never missed a beat, as far as I'm concerned it's irreplaceable, and I'd thoroughly recommend buying one without hesitation.

You'll get a really decent car for the money you have to spend, and as stated above, the MLR is your friend. Have a look in the for sale section, see how long the seller has been a member, what's been done to it, and most importantly, has it been mapped by someone who knows what they're doing.

They warp standard front discs, and you'll see posts about AYC problems, 6 speed box problems, but not much else on sensibly modified cars. The only thing mine had a problem with in 7 years and 33k is the discs.

They eat tyres, and I wouldn't bother with franchised dealers, as they don't know what they're doing....better to find a specialist. In my experience, 17 mpg is about as good as it gets if you drive it hard.

Insurance with Pace Ward is £600 with all mods declared ( and there are lots on mine ). And it's an import.


craig2003

1,209 posts

229 months

Tuesday 20th September 2011
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christofmccracke said:
evo 8 fq 260
I didn't think any of the 260's were FQ's, correct me if I am wrong though

christofmccracke

881 posts

223 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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260s are gsr's oops

paulmoonraker

2,850 posts

186 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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christofmccracke said:
260s are gsr's oops
and very sloooooow IIRC

youngsyr

14,742 posts

215 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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christofmccracke said:
260s are gsr's oops
They're not a GSR either, they're simply an "Evo VIII 260".

The whole confusion about the GSR tag was caused by a lot of them being improperly registered as a GSR with the DVLA, so this is what appeared on their V5.

They were not marketed as a GSR by Mitsubishi.