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PPP is fine for most but you pay an over inflated price for what you get if you had to pay for it as a fresh install, or paid a premium for your new vehicle because it already has PPP.
It is only a one size fits all solution albeit a very expensive one at that. 10 identical PPP WRX's would all produce very different power and torque, some a bit more than OEM quoted and others a bit less because PPP doesn't take into account each car's individuality.
Incidently, in my experience, WRX and STi's that were PPP'd from brand spanking new at the dealer as soon as they were first registered tend to make a bit more power than those that were PPP'd after the first year or two of motoring after the Subaru running in period and nominal mileage (10K to 20K+ miles).
As with a lot of Subaru PPP owners, both STi and WRX, you will eventually become very used to the power output and there will come a time when you want to increase power/torque. It happens to most of us.
A remap should reap some more rewards, specially in the torque department, and that's where the difference between PPP and custom remap is clearly felt.
If you love your PPP more power to your elbow and if it satisfies your need for speed that's great however, there is no substitute for a full custom remap.
BTW...My initial comment was said toungue in cheek so please don't take anything personal from it.
ETA: Whether you have an Open Source or EcuTek remap, it's not detectable via the dealership unless they drive it and notice it goes much better than your average PPP. Even then, if stealerships could download and read the mapping off your ECU (which they can't, though they can flash), they wouldn't know what they were looking at or looking for unless someone at the dealer actually does their own, again highly unlikely.
As far as the warranty is concerned, there is no hardware change externally and they sure as hell won't know there has been a software change. Not detectable unless they properly interrogate the ECU.
It is only a one size fits all solution albeit a very expensive one at that. 10 identical PPP WRX's would all produce very different power and torque, some a bit more than OEM quoted and others a bit less because PPP doesn't take into account each car's individuality.
Incidently, in my experience, WRX and STi's that were PPP'd from brand spanking new at the dealer as soon as they were first registered tend to make a bit more power than those that were PPP'd after the first year or two of motoring after the Subaru running in period and nominal mileage (10K to 20K+ miles).
As with a lot of Subaru PPP owners, both STi and WRX, you will eventually become very used to the power output and there will come a time when you want to increase power/torque. It happens to most of us.
A remap should reap some more rewards, specially in the torque department, and that's where the difference between PPP and custom remap is clearly felt.
If you love your PPP more power to your elbow and if it satisfies your need for speed that's great however, there is no substitute for a full custom remap.
BTW...My initial comment was said toungue in cheek so please don't take anything personal from it.
ETA: Whether you have an Open Source or EcuTek remap, it's not detectable via the dealership unless they drive it and notice it goes much better than your average PPP. Even then, if stealerships could download and read the mapping off your ECU (which they can't, though they can flash), they wouldn't know what they were looking at or looking for unless someone at the dealer actually does their own, again highly unlikely.
As far as the warranty is concerned, there is no hardware change externally and they sure as hell won't know there has been a software change. Not detectable unless they properly interrogate the ECU.
Edited by ScoobieWRX on Wednesday 22 June 10:18
ScoobieWRX said:
PPP is fine for most but you pay an over inflated price for what you get if you had to pay for it as a fresh install, or paid a premium for your new vehicle because it already has PPP.
It is only a one size fits all solution albeit a very expensive one at that. 10 identical PPP WRX's would all produce very different power and torque, some a bit more than OEM quoted and others a bit less because PPP doesn't take into account each car's individuality.
Incidently, in my experience, WRX and STi's that were PPP'd from brand spanking new at the dealer as soon as they were first registered tend to make a bit more power than those that were PPP'd after the first year or two of motoring after the Subaru running in period and nominal mileage (10K to 20K+ miles).
As with a lot of Subaru PPP owners, both STi and WRX, you will eventually become very used to the power output and there will come a time when you want to increase power/torque. It happens to most of us.
A remap should reap some more rewards, specially in the torque department, and that's where the difference between PPP and custom remap is clearly felt.
If you love your PPP more power to your elbow and if it satisfies your need for speed that's great however, there is no substitute for a full custom remap.
BTW...My initial comment was said toungue in cheek so please don't take anything personal from it.
Nice write up It is only a one size fits all solution albeit a very expensive one at that. 10 identical PPP WRX's would all produce very different power and torque, some a bit more than OEM quoted and others a bit less because PPP doesn't take into account each car's individuality.
Incidently, in my experience, WRX and STi's that were PPP'd from brand spanking new at the dealer as soon as they were first registered tend to make a bit more power than those that were PPP'd after the first year or two of motoring after the Subaru running in period and nominal mileage (10K to 20K+ miles).
As with a lot of Subaru PPP owners, both STi and WRX, you will eventually become very used to the power output and there will come a time when you want to increase power/torque. It happens to most of us.
A remap should reap some more rewards, specially in the torque department, and that's where the difference between PPP and custom remap is clearly felt.
If you love your PPP more power to your elbow and if it satisfies your need for speed that's great however, there is no substitute for a full custom remap.
BTW...My initial comment was said toungue in cheek so please don't take anything personal from it.
i think mine was done from new
like you say i think eventually i will become used to the power and demand more lol
but for now at least i am happy as can be i really dont know why i didnt get a subaru before now the car feels so tight and responsive.
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