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I have a DBS in lightening silver. The car is immculate other than for a few minnor stone chips on the bumper and nose - hardly noticeable but im a fussy owner. I'm thinking of getting a full end re-spray but concerned about colour match. AM works have quoted me £3k and guarnteed a factory finish but im still not sure- any advice?
I have a DBS in lightening silver. The car is immculate other than for a few minnor stone chips on the bumper and nose - hardly noticeable but im a fussy owner. I'm thinking of getting a full end re-spray but concerned about colour match. AM works have quoted me £3k and guarnteed a factory finish but im still not sure- any advice?
Get recommendations for local bodyshops who work on good cars. I have had work done by franchised dealers, and also by recommended local places, and the local places have always done a much better job IMHO.
Must be a Yorkshire section of the PH forums where you can get recommendations.
Must be a Yorkshire section of the PH forums where you can get recommendations.
Personally I wouldn't buy a car without the original factory paint. If you are fussy surely none matching panels are far worse than the odd stone chip. It doesn't matter what they guarentee they will never achieve a factory finish with 100% colour match. Earlier this year I looked at 8 V8V's before buying one. All but 2 had had at least front end resprays probably for no more reason than a few stone chips which then reappear within a few months anyway. The different colour and texture of any new paint turned me away immediately. My advice is don't do it, learn to live with a few stone chips and know it is an unmolested original car.
mjk1 said:
Personally I wouldn't buy a car without the original factory paint. If you are fussy surely none matching panels are far worse than the odd stone chip. It doesn't matter what they guarentee they will never achieve a factory finish with 100% colour match. Earlier this year I looked at 8 V8V's before buying one. All but 2 had had at least front end resprays probably for no more reason than a few stone chips which then reappear within a few months anyway. The different colour and texture of any new paint turned me away immediately. My advice is don't do it, learn to live with a few stone chips and know it is an unmolested original car.
I've read some drivel on PH but you take the crown, well done you.
To the OP, get some recommendations for local paint shops then go and have a chat with them.
My personal opinion is if you can afford to go with Works service go there.
find a good independant and they will be 50% or less on Works just because of labour rate not time spent...they will spend just as long, and often just as skilled or better
Ive had full resprays that were way better than factory finish before ....
If they are any good at their profession, there will be no detectable colour variation and certainly no orange peel texture like you get on many factory finished robot painted vehicles
but like any profession there are poor, good, and fantastic people out there ;- usually an indy that specialises in prestige brands will be a safe bet, after all, they are only as good as their last job...
Ive had full resprays that were way better than factory finish before ....
If they are any good at their profession, there will be no detectable colour variation and certainly no orange peel texture like you get on many factory finished robot painted vehicles
but like any profession there are poor, good, and fantastic people out there ;- usually an indy that specialises in prestige brands will be a safe bet, after all, they are only as good as their last job...
Edited by bogie on Sunday 20th March 16:11
paint matching is possibly one of the hardest tasks within the automotive industry irrespective of brand, the effects of uv light, washing technique etc, all have an effect, as for perfectly matching panels simply look at a front bumper on a DB7 to the wing they will look different even when brand new, they will have been sprayed at the same time with the same paint and technique, different materials, such as metal, plastic and composites all refract light differently, as do angles and shapes, modern constraints on paint materials has made it all the more difficult, but any good bodyshop will use a a device which will detect the paint colour and give the best possible match irrespective of ageing etc, thats why painters blend adjacent panels to give the best possible finish between new and old , the orange peel effect or poor colour match is just the sign of a sub standard repair,
rick-derby- said:
paint matching is possibly one of the hardest tasks within the automotive industry irrespective of brand, the effects of uv light, washing technique etc, all have an effect, as for perfectly matching panels simply look at a front bumper on a DB7 to the wing they will look different even when brand new, they will have been sprayed at the same time with the same paint and technique, different materials, such as metal, plastic and composites all refract light differently, as do angles and shapes, modern constraints on paint materials has made it all the more difficult, but any good bodyshop will use a a device which will detect the paint colour and give the best possible match irrespective of ageing etc, thats why painters blend adjacent panels to give the best possible finish between new and old , the orange peel effect or poor colour match is just the sign of a sub standard repair,
Just to clarify a couple of points;All plastics are painted on separate paint lines using different processes and slightly different paint. Plastic body parts cannot
go through the same ovens as the metal body.
The machine that we use is called an x-rite, this measures the paint and will say whether it is in tolerances or not. Having said that
an expert eye can be just as good.
Luckyluciano said:
mjk1 said:
Personally I wouldn't buy a car without the original factory paint. If you are fussy surely none matching panels are far worse than the odd stone chip. It doesn't matter what they guarentee they will never achieve a factory finish with 100% colour match. Earlier this year I looked at 8 V8V's before buying one. All but 2 had had at least front end resprays probably for no more reason than a few stone chips which then reappear within a few months anyway. The different colour and texture of any new paint turned me away immediately. My advice is don't do it, learn to live with a few stone chips and know it is an unmolested original car.
I've read some drivel on PH but you take the crown, well done you.To the OP, get some recommendations for local paint shops then go and have a chat with them.
My personal opinion is if you can afford to go with Works service go there.
For example you could have the stone chips touched in and then just clear laquer the bonnet and bumper......this would be less than a 1k job with good results......the other problem is, as soon as you have it resprayed and drive the car, it will have chips again.....also I strongly recomend Lloyds autobody who have body shops in Liverpool and Manchester.....they are used to spraying Astons
Learn to live with them would be my advice. I had my front spoiler of my DB9 re-sprayed by WS a couple of years ago and surely, the week after the respray a lorry dumped a whole lot of gravel down on the M25 just in front of me - so back to square one and 3k worse off.
The first stone chip is always the worst - the subsequent one tend to blend in.
The first stone chip is always the worst - the subsequent one tend to blend in.
Thanks
I think i will live with them as they are only minor and in some light almost invisible. I will wait for a big stone chip to happen at which point may go with a local independant as they are a 1/3 price of AM works- Roads are naff in yorkshire and already picked up a chip on the alloy edge!
I think i will live with them as they are only minor and in some light almost invisible. I will wait for a big stone chip to happen at which point may go with a local independant as they are a 1/3 price of AM works- Roads are naff in yorkshire and already picked up a chip on the alloy edge!
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