First problem, Engine went out

First problem, Engine went out

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hann1

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7 posts

163 months

Sunday 6th March 2011
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Had my first problem this afternoon. After driving around for maybe 30 minutes, i pushed the car harder and after full acceleration in 4th. gear at ca.6000 rpm the engine went out. Display showed "engine needs service urgent". I stopped the car, waited a Minute or two and put ignition on. Display showed: check System. The message disappeard after some time and i could start the engine. Drove home then without any problems or system warnings. Do you have any ideas? The car is a V8V N420 manual with 2000 km on the clock.
Sorry for my bad english, hope you understand what i want to say.

Murph7355

38,701 posts

262 months

Sunday 6th March 2011
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A few cars had a cut out problem on here a while back, and I think the issue ended up being with the petrol cap or fuel tank.

Not sure yours will be the same, but worth searching on here, and then talking to your servicing agent about it.

Ice27

802 posts

165 months

Sunday 6th March 2011
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I don't know what's wrong with your engine (sorry) but there's NOTHING wrong with your English!

silverspeed

1,505 posts

236 months

Sunday 6th March 2011
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Agree make sure petrol cap is fully tightened and clicks a few times . With that type of message I would assume the error code will be stored. Phone Aston Assist they should be able to check it out without a trip to the dealer. Good luck

hann1

Original Poster:

7 posts

163 months

Tuesday 8th March 2011
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Been at my local dealer, who checked the error code. It was a problem with the fuel pressure. Maybe it was a problem with the fuel tank breather (tank cap) but they don t know exactly and asked me to try again before they check the complete fuel system. The tank cap was closed correctly.
Thanks for your help.

Murph7355

38,701 posts

262 months

Tuesday 8th March 2011
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If it happens again, I'd be inclined to ask them to replace the cap first. Then possibly to look at the fuel tank.

If they're willing to look on here, there's a good bit of info on a couple of owners who had the problem.

JohnG1

3,485 posts

211 months

Wednesday 9th March 2011
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Murph7355 said:
If it happens again, I'd be inclined to ask them to replace the cap first. Then possibly to look at the fuel tank.

If they're willing to look on here, there's a good bit of info on a couple of owners who had the problem.
I had this problem with my old V8 Vantage. I ended up taking an engineer from Gaydon out for a drive with a laptop plugged into the steering column. I ended up having a new fuel tank fitted under warranty.

Aston Martin Gaydon started off being helpful but washed their hands of the issue once the tank was fitted. That was a multi day job since it involves dropping the rear subframe, gearbox and torque tube to get access to the fuel tank.

There's a thread on here - also Oceantools had the same problem.

If the dealer is no good - Chris Baker at Gaydon or Andy Hopkins at Gaydon are worth a call.

Andy Hopkins still owes me a phone call but he never bothered....

PM me if you want more.


hann1

Original Poster:

7 posts

163 months

Wednesday 9th March 2011
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I' ve read the thread started by Oceantool. Thanks for the tip. With my car it happened one time up to now. It (she) is almost new, so the warranty period will last some more months. Do you think i should make a " Big Wave" at my dealer, or better drive some more miles and look if it happens again? confused

oceantools

260 posts

197 months

Wednesday 9th March 2011
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My problem took some time to sort out. It happened on three cars - the first one that I bought, the second one (that they loaned me) and the third one (that they eventually discovered the problem with). After a LOT of investigation - during which time they replaced the fuel tank as they thought that might have been the root cause - the actual problem was apparently a bug in an engine/gearbox software calibration routine. Apparently, under certain circumstances the software thought it was on the over-run in second gear and went into a recalibration mode which cut power for a moment. Unfortunately, it was doing it in any gear and under normal driving circumstances and not when it was meant to be doing it. The problem made itself known by cutting power for just a part of a second - but left you without any steering and chucked you forward against the seatbelts. Bit scary! Anyway, they sorted it on my car and others, I believe, and all is good now.

Murph7355

38,701 posts

262 months

Thursday 10th March 2011
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hann1 said:
...Do you think i should make a " Big Wave" at my dealer, or better drive some more miles and look if it happens again? confused
I wouldn't yet. If it happens again, then I would wink

JohnG1

3,485 posts

211 months

Thursday 10th March 2011
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hann1 said:
I' ve read the thread started by Oceantool. Thanks for the tip. With my car it happened one time up to now. It (she) is almost new, so the warranty period will last some more months. Do you think i should make a " Big Wave" at my dealer, or better drive some more miles and look if it happens again? confused
Obviously it's a matter of style. Once I was driving along a very twisty B road - at a spirited speed - engine cut out about 50m before a 90 degree turn. The steering was like lead - no power assistance. I was lucky - I put the clutch in, slammed on the brakes, hit the starter button and got round the corner.

But what about if this happened 30m later?

I would kick up a great big fuss. Looking back, I was just lucky not to have this happen in a more dangerous position...

hann1

Original Poster:

7 posts

163 months

Thursday 10th March 2011
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JohnG1 said:
But what about if this happened 30m later?
You are right. I did not think about this, because it happened on a long straight road. The steering is really very diffucult without power. I had no kick in the belts, so i think it happened when i pressed the clutch pedal. Altogether it was not very spectecular because of the special circumstances, but could end in a desaster in an other situation.