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MichaelV8V said:
Apparently about half the one-77 owners have bought a cygnet. Bet they though it was a music system upgrade when they ticked the box on the order form
LOL ...thank feck for that ...dont they have to sell a certain % of them for them to have effect and them NOT to get fined by the EU ? ..so if they dont sell enough, they still get fined for selling too many high Co2 cars ...is that how it works?do you think will more Polar bears survive too?
How ever much we moan and complain about this car, at the end of the day Aston Martin need it to survive. Without it they will be hit with huge fines from the EU and will not meet their emissions targets which will mean no more Aston Martin.
I hope they sell loads of them. It is the lesser of two evils...
I hope they sell loads of them. It is the lesser of two evils...
I've managed to find out who the Londoner was that bought the 55 Cygnets.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8xvK-tD8Jg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8xvK-tD8Jg
Jockman said:
I've managed to find out who the Londoner was that bought the 55 Cygnets.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8xvK-tD8Jg
Confirmed, spotted...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8xvK-tD8Jg
bananarob said:
'look honey, i bought you an Aston Martin'....
A friend of mine noted the odd "bragging rights" of this car. You get out the Aston keys in a pub and then the people actually see what you get in.....laughs at your expense I fear bananarob said:
Be surprised if many sold outside london.
So would I, as their launch evening sales pitch at my local dealer only cited London as the city example in which to use the car Darren
zippycar said:
I think the CO2 reduction is a bit of a red herring.
According to posts elsewhere on PH, any manufacturer who produces less than 10000 units per year is exempt and I didn't think AM produced that many?
they dont make that many, but I think that rule has gone or is going, hence the need for Aston to reduce their avg before being liable for finesAccording to posts elsewhere on PH, any manufacturer who produces less than 10000 units per year is exempt and I didn't think AM produced that many?
blame the green religion leaders in EU for the craziness
zippycar said:
I think the CO2 reduction is a bit of a red herring....
A bit??I'll eat my shirt if anyone can come up with a logical piece of rationale on this.
First up, they have to sell the Cygnets. Can't just make them and chuck them in the channel.
Then you have the numbers...the average manufacturers have to get down to is 130g. The V8V (I assume their lightest on the environment as everyone seems to cack their pants about what V12s do to the environment!) is 400+g.
The iQ, on which the Cygnet is based, is 110g or so I believe. Use basic maths to work out how many Cygnets have to be sold to offset a single V8V.
If you then say "yes, but any offset will offset the fines and make them cheaper"...checkout the proposed fine tariffs (I'm not sure they're final yet) and it's a nonsense when you consider the Cygnet costs the best part of 30k. (Even ignoring the stupidity of rules that make it "better for the environment" to build two cars instead of one).
Then we might look at what other independents are doing. Morgan seem to be largely sticking two fingers up at whomever....have you seen their new model? A frickin Cygnet it is not. To be honest, their attitude to this whole eco-sham is inclined to make me look at one at some point in the future (the AeroMax has a lot of road presence, having seen one recently, even if the 3 wheeler isn't for me).
Lotus? OK, their model plans may be nowt more than a pipe dream, but they don't appear to be intending building Cygnets either.
It's lazy. It's ugly. It's piss poor brand awareness. And there are so many holes in the argument that "it will save Aston Martin" that it's laughable.
All of which is a real shame. Some of their current cars are truly great. But where are the successors to keep that greatness alive...?
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