Discount on a second hand Vantage from a Dealer

[twogoodtwo]

Dear all,

Am looking to become an AM owner for the very first time and would love some advice. I would like to buy a early V8 Vantage Roadster from a dealer in the UK for around £60k. However, I have never bought a second hand car and don't know what kind of discount I can get off the forecourt price.

Can anyone tell me what I should be asking for off the price if it is, say, on at £65k - should I try and get a 5% discount or will it only be £1k max discount.

Thanks all - can't wait to join the AM owners club!!

[FloPlast]

It depends if your heart will rule your head! When you see one which is right for you, dont loose it for not getting a discount. However, its a good time of year to buy and I would be very surprised if dealers dont want to move stock! If unable to get discount go for a free service next time its due. Good luck

[GlynMo]

I'd say, at this time of the year, you should be able to get a Roadster marked at £65k for £60k, or maybe even a bit less if you convince the dealer a. you're serious and b. you'll walk if the deal isn't right.

Not sure the AMOC is a good idea, but that's just personal!

Edited by GlynMo on Sunday 13th December 09:40

[LordBretSinclair]

"Not sure the AMOC is a good idea, but that's just personal!"

Why not???

[GlynMo]

LordBretSinclair said:

"Not sure the AMOC is a good idea, but that's just personal!"

Why not???

Seems a bit 'stiff and starchy' to me - but my previous experience of owners clubs is with probably the best car club in the country - TVR!

[Murph7355]

This question comes up often.

There is no hard and fast rule. It depends on the car, the dealer, the time of year, how well their business has been doing etc etc etc.

Do your research on what similar cars go for at dealers, and then go in with a bid (as cheeky as you like - unless you're being really daft they won't chuck you out of the showroom!).

[V8VKK]

I really think it boils down to how fussy you are on specification as whe you seriously start looking you will probably find that your choices will be quite limited. I particularly wanted a light interior and premium sound so when it boiled down to it I had a choice of around two cars so pretty much paid sticker price but negotiated on extras.

[twogoodtwo]

Thanks for all your comments guys.

Tried negotiating but not much luck. Looks like I am going to risk it and spend £60k on a private sale. I presume it's best to get the car checked out somehow before I hand across a lot of cash for it?!

[Soovy]

twogoodtwo said:

Thanks for all your comments guys.

Tried negotiating but not much luck. Looks like I am going to risk it and spend £60k on a private sale. I presume it's best to get the car checked out somehow before I hand across a lot of cash for it?!

Now, let's think. You're about to hand over sixty grand. I think perhaps getting the purchase checked might be a good idea.

FFS!

[bogie]

unless £60K is like a weeks wages to you, then I would prefer to buy from a dealer, knowing that it will be a) checked over b) serviced and c) have a years warranty

on a car like this, an inspection pre-warranty is about £750, the warranty for 12 months is £1250 ish, a dealer service about £1K ....so its kinda worth paying a £3-5K premium IMO to buy from a dealer......

[Wacky Racer]

Soovy said:

twogoodtwo said:

Thanks for all your comments guys.

Tried negotiating but not much luck. Looks like I am going to risk it and spend £60k on a private sale. I presume it's best to get the car checked out somehow before I hand across a lot of cash for it?!

Now, let's think. You're about to hand over sixty grand. I think perhaps getting the purchase checked might be a good idea.

FFS!

[alphonso]

Buying privately is fine. In some ways it's better as you can make a judgement on the owner and get a bit of history on it, something you can't do with a dealer. I doubt a dealer would give it an extra service out of synch, a private seller will price in a service if it needs doing. Regarding warranty, if you're spending 60k then you're looking at a 2008 car so you'll have at least a year on the warranty anyway.

Much better value, don't be scared off by a dealer's cautionary tales of private sales. A private seller is just trying to get a better price for it, same as you.

Make sure you do the standard checks (HP and VIN). Be sure to visit the seller at his home, make a judgement as to whether he's looked after it or not. Make sure it all makes sense and all will be fine.

[twogoodtwo]

Ha! I was indeed definately going to get it checked - I 'aint handing c.£60k to a random and just hoping the car is OK. £60k is more like many years worth of savings and sacrifices to try and afford this car. It is a August 07 silver V8V Roadster with a decent spec (hope to get it a little below £60k). It has had 2 services.

I more meant that I need to work out who the best people are to get it done. Anyone know? Would an AM dealer be interested considering I am not buying from them? Anyone have any experience using the RAC/AA to do these sorts of things - I would prefer a specialist but don't know if it would make too much difference as they will not be doing any work on the car.

Done the HPI and it has finance (I knew that already) - but that is fine as I will just get a settlement figure on the day of buying and will pay it off when I am at his house and transfer the rest of the money to him. Cheers about the VIN - will put that on my ever growing list of "to do's".

[cardigankid]

twogoodtwo said:

Dear all,
I would like to buy a early V8 Vantage Roadster from a dealer in the UK for around £60k.

I wish you all the best but there is something unreal about this thread. First off you want to spend £60k on an 'early' V8 Vantage Roadster. As someone said above, you should get a 2008 car for that. You should have plenty of choice. Nothing wrong with private sellers but as there are no comebacks, your approach seems, shall we say, somewhat jejeune.

Why incidentally is Grange Exeter Jaguar selling a V8V Roadster when they have an Aston Main Agent in the next room?

Edited by cardigankid on Wednesday 16th December 14:22

[twogoodtwo]

When I said around, I meant "below" hence looking at 07. My budget just can't go high enough to get into 2008 cars.

Maybe I'm missing something but from all my searchs on here, autotrader and even eBay - I can't find any that are in my budget, hence my original question re trying to negotiate a big discount to get dealers down to near my budget. I really want one and don't want to wait another year or so for me to save / prices to fall.

If anyone thinks they can source me a 2008 roadster in grey/black in my budget - please send them my way as I am very, very interested!!

[alphonso]

Silver, but it's indicative...
http://pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1212882.htm

There's a cheaper 2007 one on there too, in black

[twogoodtwo]

alphonso said:

Silver, but it's indicative...
http://pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1212882.htm

There's a cheaper 2007 one on there too, in black

Cheers.
Saw that one but wrong colour (must be grey (I think its called meteorite) or black + I'm not a fan of those seats...

There were a couple of black ones - both were 2007, same as what I am looking for and were private sales (hence why I think I can get this particlar seller down to around the £57-58k mark).
But there is just nothing/v. little at main dealers for anything near my price range - If I could stretch to £65k then happy days, there are loads out there to choose from (although I'm amazed at the number of Sportshift cars out there, not that I want one!)

Edited by twogoodtwo on Wednesday 16th December 16:10

[V8VKK]

Rick from DMS offers this service, money very well spent I would say, from the website-

We can check over an Aston Martin with a full report this includes carrying out a diagnostic check and road test, If the vehicle is bought to us at our workshop in Derby this costs £150.00 including vat. If you wish us to carry out an inspection where the car can not be brought to us, then this can be arranged we charge £1.00 per mile to cover petrol and travelling time, so if the car is fifty miles from our workshop the added cost would be £100.00, i.e. fifty miles there fifty miles back,

[twogoodtwo]

V8VKK said:

Rick from DMS offers this service, money very well spent I would say, from the website-

We can check over an Aston Martin with a full report this includes carrying out a diagnostic check and road test, If the vehicle is bought to us at our workshop in Derby this costs £150.00 including vat. If you wish us to carry out an inspection where the car can not be brought to us, then this can be arranged we charge £1.00 per mile to cover petrol and travelling time, so if the car is fifty miles from our workshop the added cost would be £100.00, i.e. fifty miles there fifty miles back,

Cheers but sadly would cost about £400 just on travel costs! I wish I could though.

[Murph7355]

twogoodtwo said:

...
Cheers.
Saw that one but wrong colour (must be grey (I think its called meteorite) or black + I'm not a fan of those seats...

There were a couple of black ones - both were 2007, same as what I am looking for and were private sales (hence why I think I can get this particlar seller down to around the £57-58k mark).
But there is just nothing/v. little at main dealers for anything near my price range - If I could stretch to £65k then happy days, there are loads out there to choose from (although I'm amazed at the number of Sportshift cars out there, not that I want one!)

You're answering your own questions here fella.

Personally I'd like 20 acres in a vintage farmhouse, 15 car dehumidified garage etc. Sadly, all the ones at places I'd like to buy from/trust etc, with the spec I'd specifically want are 10% above my budget. And on a very significant quid ask I just can't afford it. But I'd rather not wait until I have the readies. What can I do?

Oh well. I'll just have to stay in the 2 up 2 down in Stockwell.

Im being "slightly" facetious here, but the point stands. If a dealer has what you really want but you need 5k+ off to be able to "afford" it, then put in a cheeky bid. But be ready for a few things

1) The dealer saying no (as he knows his stock better than you)
2) If he says yes, getting bummed the second anything goes wrong that isn't 110% covered by warranty.
3) Tears (not theirs) when a service comes in 20% higher than you expected and you've spent ALL your wedge on stretching beyond your means...

You can read in the press that cars like these (any marque) are dirt cheap. But try buying one to a specific spec and see what choice you have. Then let the laws of supply and demand take over. And truly affording them is different to just fronting up the purchase price.

Edited by Murph7355 on Thursday 17th December 05:41