Deals on V12V

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EL77

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622 posts

218 months

Wednesday 12th August 2009
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Hi Guys

What deal should i be able to get on a V12V?

DBS's can be had for circa £40k off list. anyone got anything big off a V12V or are they fetching list price?

Regards

Murph7355

38,665 posts

262 months

Thursday 13th August 2009
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The usual glib answer - ask your dealer.

You will not be getting 40k off list (that's V8 money).

Not sure you'll get 40k off list from a new, "your spec" DBS either (dealer spec'd is very different).

I might go and have a go in one this month as the dealers seem keen to let current owners have a play. But I can't help thinking it's not different enough to be worth the cost to change...


bananarob

1,177 posts

187 months

Thursday 13th August 2009
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40k off a new V8, in your dreams. You might have managed 30k off a 4.3 for a period but that finished up a long time ago. As for the V12, you can get around 20k off if you really push.

Grant3

3,641 posts

261 months

Thursday 13th August 2009
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Oh no here we go again........

begone Lucifer evil ............
I will not be tempted by a Vantage V12
I will not be tempted by a Vantage V12
I will not be tempted by a Vantage V12.................... wink

Adam2S

5,124 posts

183 months

Thursday 13th August 2009
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Id agree, the V12 is truely magnificent but I just can help feeling its not that much better than a V8 to justify the significant extra cost.

Assuming you go with the logic that a V12 can be had for £20k under list, and a V8 might be £15kish, it still leaves an average spec discounted new price for a new V8 as £80k and a V12 at £110k!

Thats a mighty 40% more cost for a car that doesnt seem like it is either 40% more car or a 40% better car. Still perhaps Im being silly, since when did the top of the range model pricing ever work like that!

Exclusivity has its price! smile

PS : All of the above logic still doesnt stop me wanting one - Im just happy with my new V8 for now!

Edited by Adam2S on Thursday 13th August 15:35

martinvantage

320 posts

185 months

Thursday 13th August 2009
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Agree, +30k extra for a V12V is an awful lot of money compared to a V8V. Personally I think a sports pack V8 is still a great buy. If £120k is in the budget go for a DBS when the deals start to flow if you believe in the DBS "R" project.

bananarob

1,177 posts

187 months

Thursday 13th August 2009
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Agree with all of the above, having just bought a new 4.7 in march i am already day dreaming about a v12.. that said, it would be at least an extra 30k (with discounts applied) and there is no way a not insignificant performance improvement can justify that for me. Would rather spend the spare cash on something else. Each to their own though! Might go try one anyway and day dream some more!

alphonso

273 posts

201 months

Thursday 13th August 2009
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I'm not sure there is any deal to be done on the V12. I was down at Stratstone Mayfair today and booked in a test drive. I brought up the subject of price and it was pretty much along the line of... we've only got 1000, 2-300 in the UK over the next 2 yrs. We'll see how they sell but at the moment it's full list plus extras, ie £142k with good spec... I don't think that included the £4.6k B&O stereo upgrade!! I've met the chap a couple of times and fairly used to negotiating. It seemed pretty genuine to me.

Edited by alphonso on Thursday 13th August 23:00

XXXAngelXXX

1,711 posts

234 months

Friday 14th August 2009
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You always talk about if its worth the money or not - how about the car is worth it for itself - i would buy one directly but i just bought the DBS..... rolleyes

Pugsey

5,813 posts

220 months

Friday 14th August 2009
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XXXAngelXXX said:
You always talk about if its worth the money or not - how about the car is worth it for itself - i would buy one directly but i just bought the DBS..... rolleyes
Understand the point your making Angel. My reply would be that - based on the alternatives at the same price, both new and used then, to me it ISN'T worth the money. £120k is the right price I'd say.

XXXAngelXXX

1,711 posts

234 months

Friday 14th August 2009
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perhaps right but doesn't look anyway near as good as an Aston wink

i just calculated how much i paid for my car in pounds : 192k and honestly its not worth it by money aspects ! BUT its such a fantastic daily driver and lots of fun on track smile i don't want to miss it smile

Edited by XXXAngelXXX on Friday 14th August 08:24

Pugsey

5,813 posts

220 months

Friday 14th August 2009
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XXXAngelXXX said:
perhaps right but doesn't look anyway near as good as an Aston wink

i just calculated how much i paid for my car in pounds : 192k and honestly its not worth it by money aspects ! BUT its such a fantastic daily driver and lots of fun on track smile i don't want to miss it smile

Edited by XXXAngelXXX on Friday 14th August 08:24
All true. A car is 'worth' to you what YOU are prepared to pay for it isn't it? As long as we're happy with our individual choices then we're all 'right' AND happy! smile

XXXAngelXXX

1,711 posts

234 months

Friday 14th August 2009
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Cheers :

cardigankid

8,849 posts

218 months

Friday 14th August 2009
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Adam2S said:
...the V12 is truely magnificent but I just can't help feeling its not that much better than a V8 ...
That can't be right, surely?

:J:

2,593 posts

231 months

Friday 14th August 2009
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cardigankid said:
Adam2S said:
...the V12 is truely magnificent but I just can't help feeling its not that much better than a V8 ...
That can't be right, surely?
Not right by a long way...............IMO wink

Grant3

3,641 posts

261 months

Friday 14th August 2009
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:J: said:
cardigankid said:
Adam2S said:
...the V12 is truely magnificent but I just can't help feeling its not that much better than a V8 ...
That can't be right, surely?
Not right by a long way...............IMO wink
Yes & no... yes the V12 is faster but in the real world on the road it isn't...that much faster...., certain standard high cost spec items detract from its potential IMO....carbon ceramic brakes are great at resisting fade, but on road you simply do not need the £15k extra expensive and what happens when you come to sell & they need replacing! unsprung weight reduction "yada"... they are a fad while they cost this much & stop no better than steels, only real on road benefit is zero brake dust... for £15k! Corsa tyres add expense are frankly totally crap in the rain, I had similar on my GT3 & great as they are for grip & better ride compliance they are expensive to replace, last only 3k miles & make you check the weather forecast every time you go out!

The thing is an Aston isn't a track day toy, the GT3 is a better track & drivers car at £50k less, but lacks the class or style, but can that justify £50k more.. IMO... no!

1000 units restricted sales.... well look what happened to the N400 without a recession.

I love Aston & respect everything they do but £83k 4.7 V8 vs £135k V12 Vantage is a no brainer, put the ceramics, corsa's & other stuff on the options list & get real on the V12 pricing, take off the ceramics & you have £120k then we are starting to get real it should be £105k (109 max), then you have a real winner on your hands wink & then I am at the front of the queue.. depending on PX biggrin

Cipo

320 posts

188 months

Friday 14th August 2009
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[I love Aston & respect everything they do but £83k 4.7 V8]

Edit to add, a couple of dealers are now offering new 4.7's @ £75k with factory support

Adam2S

5,124 posts

183 months

Saturday 15th August 2009
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:J: said:
cardigankid said:
Adam2S said:
...the V12 is truely magnificent but I just can't help feeling its not that much better than a V8 ...
That can't be right, surely?
Not right by a long way...............IMO wink
Errr I did go on to quantify my statement - this is just a small snip - not even half of the first sentance! In context of my full comments above my statement reads very differently to just this quote.

XXXAngelXXX

1,711 posts

234 months

Saturday 15th August 2009
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like my wife : you got misunderstood wink

jus

529 posts

215 months

Saturday 15th August 2009
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Grant, must take you up on the brakes there... I'm not sure if you've spent much time with the Aston CCM brakes, but I had a DBS for a whole weekend a while back and I found those brakes to be quite simply phenomenal and unlike anything else I'd ever experienced. And unlike other ceramics, they are good to go from stone cold and are feelsome and progressive. Quite an achievement!

Agreed though that at Vantage level, they should probably have been made an option, but I suppose Aston are trying to push the exclusivity side of things on the V12V.