2 + 2 waste of space

2 + 2 waste of space

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Soul Reaver

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499 posts

197 months

Wednesday 24th June 2009
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Can someone explain to me why manufacturers make cars with silly noddy seats in the back (DB9, DBS etc) that are no use to man, child, Tesco shopping nor beast? Why not make all sports coupes like the Vantage with a bigger boot and a small shelf behind the drivers seat. Is there a reason behind this total waste of space that I am missing?

Mark

GPM3D

1,064 posts

236 months

Wednesday 24th June 2009
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The seats can only be considered as occasional use - but are useable. I test drove a DB9 before settling on the Vantage, and the Salesman did manage to squeeze in the back seat as my wife (who is petite) had slid the seat forward.
Having had a number of 911's before, there is an advantage to the +2 feature. It may not be comfortable but it has its uses and is better than squeezing 2 on the passenger seat with a seat belt wrapped around them!
Before now I've taken the Vantage out of the garage only for my wife to walk out the house with junior in tow - select R and select another set of keys time!
Graham

Zod

35,295 posts

263 months

Wednesday 24th June 2009
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My three year old sits in the back. what I really don't get is the DB9's packaging. Is it all just suspension and fuel tank in the space between the rear seats and the boot?

oblio

5,452 posts

232 months

Wednesday 24th June 2009
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It was explained to me as being more of an "2 + 1" in reality. Im 6'1" and there isnt enogh space behind me in the DB9 to slide the Sunday paper (albeit it was The Sunday Times hehe).

We have yet to try our 11 year old behind the passenger seat with the passenger seat fully forward. It does look slightly bigger tyan the DB7 we had though however in that the lad coul;d spread himself out (which he cant in the 9 due to the centre tunnel thing)

Soul Reaver

Original Poster:

499 posts

197 months

Wednesday 24th June 2009
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Well I still think it looks ugly and is a waste. These are two seater cars so why try to dress them up as something they are not and are never going to be. A luxury 4 seat car!

DSLiverpool

15,018 posts

207 months

Wednesday 24th June 2009
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They should put one horizontal seat across making it a 2+1 better than a 2+ sod all I spose

bogie

16,564 posts

277 months

Wednesday 24th June 2009
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its marketing...so middle aged men with kids can sell the wife on the idea of a "sportscar" ....hasnt done Porsche any harm over the years (especially in the US market) so others follow suit ...check out the new Lotus Evora 2+2 mid engined smile

oblio

5,452 posts

232 months

Wednesday 24th June 2009
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Useful for coats, gloves, hats, mapbooks,itinerary instructions, hotel details etc...when you are away doing a bit of touring around...

XXXAngelXXX

1,711 posts

233 months

Wednesday 24th June 2009
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i get a 3 year old and a 10 year old together with my *petite* wife in front in the car smile and i was only allowed to buy it if we all could get into it smile

sillyboy

50 posts

188 months

Wednesday 24th June 2009
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Same here, I can at least drop the kiddies off or pick them up from their clubs etc..
I can get 3 in without a problem on the school run, then shoot off to wherever I need to go!

Defo a advantage over similiar motors...

V8LM

5,235 posts

214 months

Wednesday 24th June 2009
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it's easy - less hassle to get a car approved with seats in the back than for one that doesn't (sum'ut to do with things in the boot in crashes 'n' stuff).

Edited by V8LM on Wednesday 24th June 21:32

RJDM3

1,441 posts

210 months

Wednesday 24th June 2009
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bogie said:
its marketing...so middle aged men with kids can sell the wife on the idea of a "sportscar"
Exactly! Nail on head

hartley

704 posts

204 months

Wednesday 24th June 2009
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The real question is why oh why don't they add another 6 inches to the floorplan and have 4 useable seats - a la Maserati ?

XXXAngelXXX

1,711 posts

233 months

Thursday 25th June 2009
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it would look like a *limo* then just like the Maser GT hahah laugh

Zod

35,295 posts

263 months

Thursday 25th June 2009
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hartley said:
The real question is why oh why don't they add another 6 inches to the floorplan and have 4 useable seats - a la Maserati ?
They did. It just took a little longer and they called it the Rapide.

bogie

16,564 posts

277 months

Thursday 25th June 2009
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dunno why people bother either - surely if you can afford a £130K car, you can afford a 4 door saloon or estate as well? wink

so you can have 2 door sportscar + 4 door + whatever else you need

but of course, it comes back to the marketing issue of "can you get the kids in the back dear?" wink

superlightr

12,899 posts

268 months

Thursday 25th June 2009
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bogie said:
dunno why people bother either - surely if you can afford a £130K car, you can afford a 4 door saloon or estate as well? wink

so you can have 2 door sportscar + 4 door + whatever else you need

but of course, it comes back to the marketing issue of "can you get the kids in the back dear?" wink
but if you cant afford £130k you might with a used £50k for a DB9 and the wife has her own 4 door kid mobile.

MogulBoy

2,963 posts

228 months

Thursday 25th June 2009
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It's true to say that anyone who can 'afford' a new DB9 could also 'afford' a second car but if that means three cars in the household, the constraint for many will boil down to the availabiity of parking spaces at home...

bogie

16,564 posts

277 months

Thursday 25th June 2009
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MogulBoy said:
It's true to say that anyone who can 'afford' a new DB9 could also 'afford' a second car but if that means three cars in the household, the constraint for many will boil down to the availabiity of parking spaces at home...
one would think that if you can afford a luxury car you can afford more than 2 parking spaces too though LOL wink

everything is relative I guess, and few people conform to the stereotypes, but I do really think the back seats in these 2+2s (of any brand) is just to appeal to a wider market, rather than be of any practical use other than somewhere to throw stuff ! smile

GR1FF1F

523 posts

239 months

Thursday 25th June 2009
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I think the point of these seats is also a convenience thing for short journeys. I have +2 in the XKR and it's fine for short distances but tough on both the driver and the passengers in the back if going more than a few minutes down the road. But it has been quite useful when picking up kids and they ask - can you give so and so a lift to the station.