DBS volante pics
Discussion
Looks lovely, and I have no doubt on pure exclusivity it will be a very desirable car, but presumably the stiffer chassis will now be fed back into the DB9 Volante, dealing with the criticism which has been made of it, and if it is a convertible that you want, I would have thought that the upgraded DB9 Volante is all the Volante you would ever need.
I do think however people get a little anal about scuttle shake and chassis stiffness in cars which let's face it are never going to compete in the BTCC. A 1970 DB6 MkII Volante must have been a lot worse, but that didn't stop it being a very desirable and exciting car then and worth over £250k today.
I do think however people get a little anal about scuttle shake and chassis stiffness in cars which let's face it are never going to compete in the BTCC. A 1970 DB6 MkII Volante must have been a lot worse, but that didn't stop it being a very desirable and exciting car then and worth over £250k today.
garyhun said:
It loses the aggressive magic of the coupe for me. Do not particularly like it!
+1(but would like to hear it from the drivers seat at full chat)
(looks a lot like a XKR Convertable, more than the hard top DBS looks like a hard top XKR IMO)
Edited by sadlerj on Wednesday 25th February 10:11
[quote=cardigankid]Looks lovely, and I have no doubt on pure exclusivity it will be a very desirable car, but presumably the stiffer chassis will now be fed back into the DB9 Volante, dealing with the criticism which has been made of it, and if it is a convertible that you want, I would have thought that the upgraded DB9 Volante is all the Volante you would ever need.
I do think however people get a little anal about scuttle shake and chassis stiffness in cars which let's face it are never going to compete in the BTCC. A 1970 DB6 MkII Volante must have been a lot worse, but that didn't stop it being a very desirable and exciting car then and worth over £250k today.
I have the db9 convertible and frankly scuttle shake is irrelevant as the db9 is a straight line hot rod or a GT cruiser for taking smooth bends at pace - as is the volante - you would buy a caterham if you wanted to throw the thing about not a DB9 .
I have also noticed that some body shells are too stiff for a decent ride - eg the previous generation m3 convertible - great car but rattles your teeth out on a normal road because it is too stiffened to avoid scuttle shake.
Having said all that the damping in both the db9 coupe or volante is very poor for a car this expensive - has anybody driven the 2009 db9 yet - damping is supposed to be much better ?
Have to say I agree with both the other comments - not as attractive or distinctive as coupe
- looks mighty similar to my volante for something with a £50k premium !
I do think however people get a little anal about scuttle shake and chassis stiffness in cars which let's face it are never going to compete in the BTCC. A 1970 DB6 MkII Volante must have been a lot worse, but that didn't stop it being a very desirable and exciting car then and worth over £250k today.
I have the db9 convertible and frankly scuttle shake is irrelevant as the db9 is a straight line hot rod or a GT cruiser for taking smooth bends at pace - as is the volante - you would buy a caterham if you wanted to throw the thing about not a DB9 .
I have also noticed that some body shells are too stiff for a decent ride - eg the previous generation m3 convertible - great car but rattles your teeth out on a normal road because it is too stiffened to avoid scuttle shake.
Having said all that the damping in both the db9 coupe or volante is very poor for a car this expensive - has anybody driven the 2009 db9 yet - damping is supposed to be much better ?
Have to say I agree with both the other comments - not as attractive or distinctive as coupe
- looks mighty similar to my volante for something with a £50k premium !
hartley said:
- looks mighty similar to my volante for something with a £50k premium !
That was my first thought, it seems to have lost the aggression of the DBS and looks very similar to yours.I'm looking forward to seeing it in the flesh next week at he Geneva show though - so may revise my opinion
cardigankid said:
Looks lovely, and I have no doubt on pure exclusivity it will be a very desirable car, but presumably the stiffer chassis will now be fed back into the DB9 Volante, dealing with the criticism which has been made of it, and if it is a convertible that you want, I would have thought that the upgraded DB9 Volante is all the Volante you would ever need.
I do think however people get a little anal about scuttle shake and chassis stiffness in cars which let's face it are never going to compete in the BTCC. A 1970 DB6 MkII Volante must have been a lot worse, but that didn't stop it being a very desirable and exciting car then and worth over £250k today.
I think car reviews in general have lost touch with reality. I had a load of old issues of Motor gleaned from a car boot and they were talking about the original Countach in 1974 or whatever being hard to unstick, such was the level of grip. This from a magazine with contributors and reviewers as acclaimed and diverse as LJK Setright and Stirling Moss. Everything is reviewed now in some kind of dreamy haze, as if taking a country road corner is the same as taking Eau Rouge. Minor details are blown out of proportion and increasingly disproportionate terms are used to describe minute and probably imperceptible changes in a car's set-up. Reminds me of high end hi-fi reviewing: this £700 1 metre cable is better than the £350 cable because some fat bloke's vocals are more piercing. Apparently.I do think however people get a little anal about scuttle shake and chassis stiffness in cars which let's face it are never going to compete in the BTCC. A 1970 DB6 MkII Volante must have been a lot worse, but that didn't stop it being a very desirable and exciting car then and worth over £250k today.
If you read a review of the DB9 Volante you'd think it was some undriveable 1930s mess and that couldn't be further from the truth. I certainly wouldn't sniff at being given one and I still love seeing one on the rare occasion that I do (with top down, of course). They're utterly enchanting cars and whilst that doesn't override flaws the plain fact is that it has more than enough power/grip for 99% of real-world situations, and any shortcomings are easily replaced by the looks, ambience and noise. If the older cars were so bad nobody would be paying the money they go for. I know that isn't necessarily true of all inflated prices - the current market for Italian cars is mad - but a vintage chop-top Aston/Fez/Jag/similar is an utterly beguiling choice and I doubt that scuttle shake ever enters an owner's mind.
More info and pics here:
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/...
Looks like another Aston for Toni and his Friend Guy
, not for me I'am afraid
Trev
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/...
Looks like another Aston for Toni and his Friend Guy
, not for me I'am afraidTrev
hartley said:
cardigankid said:
Looks lovely, and I have no doubt on pure exclusivity it will be a very desirable car, but presumably the stiffer chassis will now be fed back into the DB9 Volante, dealing with the criticism which has been made of it, and if it is a convertible that you want, I would have thought that the upgraded DB9 Volante is all the Volante you would ever need.
I do think however people get a little anal about scuttle shake and chassis stiffness in cars which let's face it are never going to compete in the BTCC. A 1970 DB6 MkII Volante must have been a lot worse, but that didn't stop it being a very desirable and exciting car then and worth over £250k today.
I have the db9 convertible and frankly scuttle shake is irrelevant as the db9 is a straight line hot rod or a GT cruiser for taking smooth bends at pace - as is the volante - you would buy a caterham if you wanted to throw the thing about not a DB9. I have also noticed that some body shells are too stiff for a decent ride - eg the previous generation m3 convertible - great car but rattles your teeth out on a normal road because it is too stiffened to avoid scuttle shake.I do think however people get a little anal about scuttle shake and chassis stiffness in cars which let's face it are never going to compete in the BTCC. A 1970 DB6 MkII Volante must have been a lot worse, but that didn't stop it being a very desirable and exciting car then and worth over £250k today.
Having said all that the damping in both the db9 coupe or volante is very poor for a car this expensive - has anybody driven the 2009 db9 yet - damping is supposed to be much better ?
Have to say I agree with both the other comments - not as attractive or distinctive as coupe
- looks mighty similar to my volante for something with a £50k premium !
Look at the difference in price between different models of V8 from the '80's
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