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uuf361 said:
steve_amv8 said:
I think you'll find quite a number of AMOC members (including myself) frequent this forum as well the AMOC one .... personally I think it is worth it and the membership, like the cars, is very diverse!
Thanks, but what are the benefits for the £70ish a year ?Edited by RichB on Saturday 3rd January 15:49
I am a clubby person I guess
I've been on 911UK for the last 3.5 years and have over 6,000 posts and have attended many of the events organised by them, but they are different to anything that PCGB does andI like what they do over there.
So really wanted I guss to see if AMOC was more like PCGB and if it was, if an alternative was better......
Might give it a try........but I'm not hugely into publications so that alone might not make it worth it for me.
I've been on 911UK for the last 3.5 years and have over 6,000 posts and have attended many of the events organised by them, but they are different to anything that PCGB does andI like what they do over there.
So really wanted I guss to see if AMOC was more like PCGB and if it was, if an alternative was better......
Might give it a try........but I'm not hugely into publications so that alone might not make it worth it for me.
Edited by uuf361 on Saturday 3rd January 18:16
uuf361 said:
...I wanted I guss to see if AMOC was more like PCGB and if it was, if an alternative was better...
I don't know of an alternative, we're not like those Jaguar chaps you know, with their clubs all over the place 
p.s. which model of Aston do you drive?
Edited by RichB on Saturday 3rd January 17:11
RichB said:
uuf361 said:
...I wanted I guss to see if AMOC was more like PCGB and if it was, if an alternative was better...
I don't know of an alternative, we're not like those Jaguar chaps you know, with their clubs all over the place p.s. which model of Aston do you drive?
Edited by RichB on Saturday 3rd January 17:11
I have been a member of both AMOC and PCGB. There are some big differences:
size. PCGB is huge. AMOC has about 4K members throughout the world. So area meetings are small affairs- friendly, but small. Dont expect more then a dozen members and maybe 3-4 cars on a night. A lot more when its good weather, mind
PCGB does very well from sponsoeship. AMOC less so. Very little is subsidised in the AMOC
AMOC has a lot of rich members. And an old chairman was quoted as saying he wanted the club to be "a club for millionaires". There are a lot of members who never go to any event, have never owned nor never will own an Aston yet belong to the club believing its a sort of "kudos" attached to it. There isnt, of course but they think so. You dont meet these often, but they appear at "black tie events" and crawl under their rock afterwards
There are a lot of members like me who get our fingernails dirty, who know what a torque setting is and who like track days/ organise trips for members to Le Mans. But we are in a minority compared to those who get their man to do such things. These people tend to attend the club nights/ events
AMOC's staff think nothing of hosting expensive events for their members whilst shunning cheaper options. As someone who suggested a cheap option for Le Mans, I have been on the recieving end of this "rediculous idea"
The AMOC publications are exquisite and, if you like the marque worthy of the price alone. Easily better then the Michelin fest which is Porsche post
The forum isnt too moderated- there is one (sadly) regular member who posts purile drivel on a fairly common basis. Thankfully you can chose to ignore him. Ther forum is very good at tehcnical aspects- ask a technical question, you'll soon get some very good, accurate answers and possibly one offer of helping you work on the car.
Having said all that, there are very few snobs in the AMOC- they tend to go to the gala dinners and not to the club nights/ race meetings. I joined when I was 14, and no-one I met ever looked down on me. Several members took me out in their car and I was hooked from that moment on. This is still true of 99% of all members I meet, who are a friendly bunch who love cars. It was 14 years since I owned an Aston, and nobody thought any less of me because of it. Unlike the PCGB...
When I first joined PCGB, I started a conversatioon with a few members and they asked "so what 911 have you got?" When I answered that I owned, in fact a 944 they said "bad luck" and carried on talking amongst themselves, compleately blanking me. This is the sort of snobbery I hate, and I rarely went back.
In the AMOC calender, there is nothing like the PCGB day at brands hatch (does this shill happen?). Its a smaller club, and therfore less flexible with new ideas. But a lof of enthusiastic members organise their own weekends away/ meetings- DBS V8, DB7 etc etc all have weekend drives. But you wont get people organising trips to the Nurburgring/weekends to the Stelvio pass.
The membership of PCGB is as lot younger then AMOC, with conversation to suit.
You dont get owners arriving in Nomex boots at AMOC club nights. They dont bring their children, but occasioanly their grandchildren
There are a lot of "old boys" in the AMOC, and very few young members. This will change over time, of course, but the social side does not really cater for people in their 20s/early 30s. You have to do your own thing.
size. PCGB is huge. AMOC has about 4K members throughout the world. So area meetings are small affairs- friendly, but small. Dont expect more then a dozen members and maybe 3-4 cars on a night. A lot more when its good weather, mind
PCGB does very well from sponsoeship. AMOC less so. Very little is subsidised in the AMOC
AMOC has a lot of rich members. And an old chairman was quoted as saying he wanted the club to be "a club for millionaires". There are a lot of members who never go to any event, have never owned nor never will own an Aston yet belong to the club believing its a sort of "kudos" attached to it. There isnt, of course but they think so. You dont meet these often, but they appear at "black tie events" and crawl under their rock afterwards
There are a lot of members like me who get our fingernails dirty, who know what a torque setting is and who like track days/ organise trips for members to Le Mans. But we are in a minority compared to those who get their man to do such things. These people tend to attend the club nights/ events
AMOC's staff think nothing of hosting expensive events for their members whilst shunning cheaper options. As someone who suggested a cheap option for Le Mans, I have been on the recieving end of this "rediculous idea"
The AMOC publications are exquisite and, if you like the marque worthy of the price alone. Easily better then the Michelin fest which is Porsche post
The forum isnt too moderated- there is one (sadly) regular member who posts purile drivel on a fairly common basis. Thankfully you can chose to ignore him. Ther forum is very good at tehcnical aspects- ask a technical question, you'll soon get some very good, accurate answers and possibly one offer of helping you work on the car.
Having said all that, there are very few snobs in the AMOC- they tend to go to the gala dinners and not to the club nights/ race meetings. I joined when I was 14, and no-one I met ever looked down on me. Several members took me out in their car and I was hooked from that moment on. This is still true of 99% of all members I meet, who are a friendly bunch who love cars. It was 14 years since I owned an Aston, and nobody thought any less of me because of it. Unlike the PCGB...
When I first joined PCGB, I started a conversatioon with a few members and they asked "so what 911 have you got?" When I answered that I owned, in fact a 944 they said "bad luck" and carried on talking amongst themselves, compleately blanking me. This is the sort of snobbery I hate, and I rarely went back.
In the AMOC calender, there is nothing like the PCGB day at brands hatch (does this shill happen?). Its a smaller club, and therfore less flexible with new ideas. But a lof of enthusiastic members organise their own weekends away/ meetings- DBS V8, DB7 etc etc all have weekend drives. But you wont get people organising trips to the Nurburgring/weekends to the Stelvio pass.
The membership of PCGB is as lot younger then AMOC, with conversation to suit.
You dont get owners arriving in Nomex boots at AMOC club nights. They dont bring their children, but occasioanly their grandchildren
There are a lot of "old boys" in the AMOC, and very few young members. This will change over time, of course, but the social side does not really cater for people in their 20s/early 30s. You have to do your own thing.
williamp said:
The membership of PCGB is as lot younger then AMOC, with conversation to suit.
You dont get owners arriving in Nomex boots at AMOC club nights. They dont bring their children, but occasioanly their grandchildren
There are a lot of "old boys" in the AMOC, and very few young members. This will change over time, of course, but the social side does not really cater for people in their 20s/early 30s. You have to do your own thing.
Excuse me Mr William P.. I'm only 20, me, my dad, uncle and grandad all attend the monthly meetings, and all the race meetings(were not snobz!!)You dont get owners arriving in Nomex boots at AMOC club nights. They dont bring their children, but occasioanly their grandchildren
There are a lot of "old boys" in the AMOC, and very few young members. This will change over time, of course, but the social side does not really cater for people in their 20s/early 30s. You have to do your own thing.
Love the bit about the 911's and the Nomex boots.... VW Beetles in Sports shoes, couldn't even get the engine in the right end!!!!
AMOC is a elite club... PCGB or what ever it is isn't(Yes we used to be members aswell with a 928.)
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