ASTON MARTIN AXE 600 JOBS

ASTON MARTIN AXE 600 JOBS

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jochen1970

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15 posts

196 months

Monday 1st December 2008
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They say its due to the economic climate, but it does not help when they have 2500 yes thats right, two thousand five hundred cars unsold around the world some built back in 2006 does not say alot for wonder kid betz

anonymous-user

59 months

Monday 1st December 2008
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Just for accuracy - It's Bez and 300 of the 600 are temp workers.

:J:

2,593 posts

230 months

Monday 1st December 2008
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Plus the 50 that have already gone, so 650 in total by Feb !!



Doshy

833 posts

222 months

Monday 1st December 2008
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If Ford don't get a hand out from the U.S Government and go belly up next year, so will the whole of Aston. Sad times indeed.

bogie

16,562 posts

277 months

Monday 1st December 2008
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so worldwide dealers had ordered cars and now they havnt sold ...seems like every car manufacturer these days im afraid ...and the Aston problem is pretty small scale compared to the big boys in the manufacturing game frown

As a brand it wont disappear - its worth too much, they would just be bought cheap by one of the few car manufacturers thats cash rich. Its the same for any industry in a recession, if youve got cash in the bank to survive on, rather than living on borrowing, you should be ok...and come out of it fighting, after leaving lots of your competition by the wayside smile

..it will be interesting to see which car manufacturers survive for sure, and which ones get bailed out with our money .....

RichB

52,520 posts

289 months

Monday 1st December 2008
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Doshy said:
If Ford don't get a hand out from the U.S Government and go belly up next year, so will the whole of Aston. Sad times indeed.
So do Ford still have a stake in Aston Martin or am I not following your logic? confused

justfun

38 posts

190 months

Monday 1st December 2008
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Talking to a dealer you wouldn't think car manufacturers are struggling at the moment, I phoned an Aston Martin dealer today to enquire about a V8V they have for sale. Because the car wasn't local I wanted to discuss the price, and its amazing how just this morning they have had several enquires regarding that particular car wink and he was expecting me to pay the asking price (60k for a MY07), telling me that he feels its been well priced jester.

williamp

19,481 posts

278 months

Monday 1st December 2008
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RichB said:
Doshy said:
If Ford don't get a hand out from the U.S Government and go belly up next year, so will the whole of Aston. Sad times indeed.
So do Ford still have a stake in Aston Martin or am I not following your logic? confused
No. They sold to a consortium led by Prodrive with Kuwati money.

This does make commercial sense- in the good times, they would ramp up production and employ more staff. When sales are slow, those temporary workers will go. Common in manufacturing, though not nice if you're one of them

Webber3

1,228 posts

224 months

Monday 1st December 2008
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garyhun said:
Just for accuracy - It's Bez and 300 of the 600 are temp workers.
They've got Bez running the show?! God help em. getmecoat




Grant3

3,641 posts

260 months

Monday 1st December 2008
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jochen1970 said:
They say its due to the economic climate, but it does not help when they have 2500 yes thats right, two thousand five hundred cars unsold around the world some built back in 2006 does not say alot for wonder kid betz
And your point is????????????

Just let me know how many other car manufacturer aren't suffering BIG TIME at the moment, there are massive lay off's every where, government loans and support, part time working, even the the most profitable car company in the world (Porsche)is projecting VERY hard times ahead.

Bottom line...... all high car manufacturers are in for an incredibly hard time and those without big financial support to see them through the next few years will be staring the reaper in the face!

sadlerj

855 posts

289 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2008
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williamp said:
RichB said:
Doshy said:
If Ford don't get a hand out from the U.S Government and go belly up next year, so will the whole of Aston. Sad times indeed.
So do Ford still have a stake in Aston Martin or am I not following your logic? confused
No. They sold to a consortium led by Prodrive with Kuwati money.

This does make commercial sense- in the good times, they would ramp up production and employ more staff. When sales are slow, those temporary workers will go. Common in manufacturing, though not nice if you're one of them
Ford still have a 10% stake in AM, without that and the support they get from Ford, them I am sure they would really really struggle. Sad Sad times...esp as one of my best mates works for AM...but he is safe at the moment!

Doshy

833 posts

222 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2008
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sadlerj said:
williamp said:
RichB said:
Doshy said:
If Ford don't get a hand out from the U.S Government and go belly up next year, so will the whole of Aston. Sad times indeed.
So do Ford still have a stake in Aston Martin or am I not following your logic? confused
No. They sold to a consortium led by Prodrive with Kuwati money.

This does make commercial sense- in the good times, they would ramp up production and employ more staff. When sales are slow, those temporary workers will go. Common in manufacturing, though not nice if you're one of them
Ford still have a 10% stake in AM, without that and the support they get from Ford, them I am sure they would really really struggle. Sad Sad times...esp as one of my best mates works for AM...but he is safe at the moment!
They are still in the change over period for parts etc. This can take several years as you phase out one supplier and bring in new models with bits from say. Mercedes. They went belly up once when connolly (spelling) leather went bust. Ford supply these bits in a rather reluctant fashion already........

Chaffs

237 posts

192 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2008
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I took a v8 out a couple of weeks ago and when I enquired as to how things were the salesman explained that whilst things were quiet, he'd sold 4 cars in about 10 days due to the cut in interest rate. I don't know that I believe him. I guess the only other evidence is that Bentley are going down to a three day week, from their already shortened four day week.

XXXAngelXXX

1,711 posts

233 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2008
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Grant3 said:
Just let me know how many other car manufacturer aren't suffering BIG TIME at the moment, there are massive lay off's every where, government loans and support, part time working, even the the most profitable car company in the world (Porsche)is projecting VERY hard times ahead.
i can confirm that from first hand information - i was out for dinner with one of the Porsche heads last saturday....


:J:

2,593 posts

230 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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sadlerj said:
williamp said:
RichB said:
Doshy said:
If Ford don't get a hand out from the U.S Government and go belly up next year, so will the whole of Aston. Sad times indeed.
So do Ford still have a stake in Aston Martin or am I not following your logic? confused
No. They sold to a consortium led by Prodrive with Kuwati money.

This does make commercial sense- in the good times, they would ramp up production and employ more staff. When sales are slow, those temporary workers will go. Common in manufacturing, though not nice if you're one of them
Ford still have a 10% stake in AM, without that and the support they get from Ford, them I am sure they would really really struggle. Sad Sad times...esp as one of my best mates works for AM...but he is safe at the moment!
Your mate is lucky, the people I know that work there say that nobody is saying who are going to be part of the 300 perm staff getting laid off in the new year frown

Edited by :J: on Monday 8th December 10:09

Murph7355

38,645 posts

261 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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:J: said:
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Your mate is lucky, the people I know that work there say that nobody is saying who are going to be part of the 300 perm staff getting laid off in the new year frown...
They won't be allowed to.

IIRC, laying off over 25 people in one hit you have to go into a period of consultation (unless you're winding the firm up) to avoid the risk of legal issues.