Manual DB9s

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Horse_Apple

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3,795 posts

247 months

Tuesday 11th November 2008
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Any ideas as to why there are just no manuals knocking about?


steve_amv8

1,906 posts

215 months

Tuesday 11th November 2008
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... because the DB9 is a large GT and so a manual isn't really that desirable for most DB9 owners ....

Dan1heMan

135 posts

223 months

Tuesday 11th November 2008
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The only manual came across i bought... Personally im glad there arent many about as it should (hopefully) make my DB9 hold it value more than the touchtronic variant.

It's a much more concentrated drivers car being a manual, the only gripe i have with the manual is that 2nd is awkward to engage when cold.

steve_amv8

1,906 posts

215 months

Tuesday 11th November 2008
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The "cold 2nd gear" problem is common on earlier AMV8 too, although I believe there is a fix for that so maybe you can get the same for the DB9.

Dan1heMan

135 posts

223 months

Tuesday 11th November 2008
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Thanks steve, Ill speak to my local dealer in Derby and ask about it.

Dan.

steve_amv8

1,906 posts

215 months

Tuesday 11th November 2008
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My local dealer too as it happens!

rickdms

1,105 posts

192 months

Tuesday 11th November 2008
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hi the mod for the amv8 includes replacing the bell crank lever on the transmission a different gear oil, and a slight modification to the gear lever, as the amv8 and the db9 use the same bell crank assembly mod should work the same, db9 transmission oil should be changed at 30000 or 3 years for the db9 and 40000 miles or 4 years for the amv8, i automatically use the modified gear oil at these intervals this makes an improvement on its own,

Edited by rickdms on Tuesday 11th November 18:33

AstonZagato

12,919 posts

215 months

Tuesday 11th November 2008
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Dan1heMan said:
The only manual came across i bought... Personally im glad there arent many about as it should (hopefully) make my DB9 hold it value more than the touchtronic variant.

It's a much more concentrated drivers car being a manual, the only gripe i have with the manual is that 2nd is awkward to engage when cold.
I think in the early years, the TT will continue to be the bigger market. The TT is close enough to a manual when driven on the paddles (especially the 09 - which is actually quicker than the manual through the gears). So a manual lover might go for a TT but someone who wants an auto won't go for a manual. The rarity of the manual will ensure it continues to sell but it won't be the choice for the majority

In ten years time when the DB9s are being bought by "enthusiasts" (not that us DB9 drivers today aren't), it will be the manual that is the car of choice. That is what is happening with DB7's.

hartley

704 posts

204 months

Tuesday 11th November 2008
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I bought a manual convertible which sounds a strange combination but I need open top motoring and the TT reminded me of my Lexus but with lousy damping.Manual is great fun either to drive like an auto in third using the torque or scaring the wildlife going through the gears . Shouldn't an Aston be a bit of a brute ?

Horse_Apple

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3,795 posts

247 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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steve_amv8 said:
... because the DB9 is a large GT and so a manual isn't really that desirable for most DB9 owners ....
That would have been my assumption. It certainly is with Jaguars and German kit, and also among the older population.

However, I would have thought that there would be more Aston owners wanting the more hands on pleasure of a manual.

Has anyone driven both and have any comments to make?

Camel

319 posts

227 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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hartley said:
I bought a manual convertible which sounds a strange combination but I need open top motoring and the TT reminded me of my Lexus but with lousy damping.Manual is great fun either to drive like an auto in third using the torque or scaring the wildlife going through the gears . Shouldn't an Aston be a bit of a brute ?
I saw a rather nice manual Volante up at Donington at the final round of the AMOC series last month and remember thinking that's an unusual combination - was it you?

hartley

704 posts

204 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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Camel said:
hartley said:
I bought a manual convertible which sounds a strange combination but I need open top motoring and the TT reminded me of my Lexus but with lousy damping.Manual is great fun either to drive like an auto in third using the torque or scaring the wildlife going through the gears . Shouldn't an Aston be a bit of a brute ?
I saw a rather nice manual Volante up at Donington at the final round of the AMOC series last month and remember thinking that's an unusual combination - was it you?
Sadly not mine - I am in Scotland - metallic grey with black roof and black leather .It took me about 4 months to find a manual convertible in the right colours - don't think many people agree with me that this is the one to have but I have no regrets.

f328nvl

507 posts

223 months

Monday 17th November 2008
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steve_amv8 said:
... because the DB9 is a large GT and so a manual isn't really that desirable for most DB9 owners ....
Or because DB9 owners are on average older and can't be arsed to change gear anymore? I had a Ferrari 550 and still have DB7 manual after 8 years of ownership(both by any definition big GTs) and have driven both manual and auto/tip DB9s. It's all personal preference, but I think demographic is important. As to the big Mercs etc, it's much easier to sell ludicrously over-powered cars in auto than manual because the driver can't destroy the clutch so fast and damage your brand's reputation for reliability. For an illustration go to a Vanquish thread or Lambo Gallardo thread somewhere and see how fast they eat clutches in manual spec.

clorenzen

3,711 posts

240 months

Tuesday 18th November 2008
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Put simply, I think the touchtronic does 90% of what you can do with the manual whereas the manual does 0% of what the touchtronic can do. The ZF Touchtronic gearbox on the DB9 is first class and cannot be compared with the TipTronic from Porsche which is crude and obsolete in comparison. The DB9 is a superb GT car and I think the touchtronic plays a large part of that. If you want a bit more engaged driving put it in Sport Mode and use the paddles. I do rate the manuals put I think the touchtronic appeals to a much larger market hence the low production numbers.

hartley

704 posts

204 months

Tuesday 18th November 2008
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Anybody with a manual db9 been through a clutch yet ?