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Hello Guys,
My dad is thinking of getting either a 996 C4S 3.6 or a 997 C2S 3.8.
He is also thinking about taking an Aston Martin V8 Vantage out for a test drive.
Has anybody any idea on how much different a 997 Carrera 2 S (2005) running costs are in comparison with an Aston Martin V8 Vantage (2006) running costs?
Anybody owned both?
Looking at the service pricing for the Porsches, They are seriously impressive making the only MAJOR costs being fuel and rear tyres.
Help would be appreciated!
Baxter.
My dad is thinking of getting either a 996 C4S 3.6 or a 997 C2S 3.8.
He is also thinking about taking an Aston Martin V8 Vantage out for a test drive.
Has anybody any idea on how much different a 997 Carrera 2 S (2005) running costs are in comparison with an Aston Martin V8 Vantage (2006) running costs?
Anybody owned both?
Looking at the service pricing for the Porsches, They are seriously impressive making the only MAJOR costs being fuel and rear tyres.
Help would be appreciated!
Baxter.
bogie said:
surely if you can afford a luxury sportscar, and the depreciation that comes with them, servicing is neglible ...sure if you do 30K miles a year then it could be an issue...but for a yearly service? ...id be more worried about the yearly £8-12000 (plus) depreciation these days !
I know. It's very strange but my dad is the kind of guy that buys the car he wants and tries to not worry about the depreciation... It will be an everyday car but he does barely any miles. He looks at the money he spends on cars as ' Disposable ' money which in my eyes is silly but I admire him for it and worries more about reliability and more short term possible costs and problems. He is swaying towards the Porsche I think because you can now get a nice example 997 S for sub 40k. You need to spend a bit more for a good example of an Aston. His budget is around £40,000 - £42,000. And an Aston is pushing it a bit in my eyes. 
Unfortunately.I had a 997 C2S and sold it before it was due a service and replaced with an V8 Vantage. Just get your Dad to test drive the porker and then the Aston. Ensure fuse 22 is removed (the dealer will probably do that in any case), window down and floor it in second or third.
Any nonsense about running costs will disappear, huge smile at the V8 howl and away you go!
Seriously though, the AM is more expensive to run but not massively more. A friendly dealer will give you quotes for services and you can see that they are similar.
More relevant is that the Aston is way thirstier - I get about 14-16mpg out of it. Porker was early 20s.
In full bore 2nd gear acceleration the vantage runs at 4.3 mpg.
If he drives much that'll be more of a cost than servicing...
Any nonsense about running costs will disappear, huge smile at the V8 howl and away you go!
Seriously though, the AM is more expensive to run but not massively more. A friendly dealer will give you quotes for services and you can see that they are similar.
More relevant is that the Aston is way thirstier - I get about 14-16mpg out of it. Porker was early 20s.
In full bore 2nd gear acceleration the vantage runs at 4.3 mpg.
If he drives much that'll be more of a cost than servicing...
I've also recently changed from years of Porsche ownership to Aston V8 and can echo the thoughts. Fuel does get used quicker - but that's directly related to right foot and noise/sound level!
Never kept the 997's long enough to reach their first service but believe that the Aston service is approx twice that of Porsche. The Aston is much much more of 'an occasion' to drive and definately a head turner compared to the commonal garden Porsche.
Graham
Never kept the 997's long enough to reach their first service but believe that the Aston service is approx twice that of Porsche. The Aston is much much more of 'an occasion' to drive and definately a head turner compared to the commonal garden Porsche.
Graham
Baxter 69 said:
I know. It's very strange but my dad is the kind of guy that buys the car he wants and tries to not worry about the depreciation... It will be an everyday car but he does barely any miles. .
I admire your/his attitude on depreciation, of course it is going to lose money, its the enhancement of your life that matters. However, just my opinion, using a car every day but not covering a high mileage can be a good way of really knackering it. This is stating the blindingly obvious but the car never gets a good run, is always running cold, and is not being used for the intended purpose.I know a guy who does just this, 2 miles to work, 2 miles home, virtually every day. BMW 323i Coupe, owned four years, new engine. Jaguar XK8, ditto. Jury out on his current motor. In these circumstances can I suggest that the Porsche might last longer, or a Bentley Conti GT. Its a brutal thing to do to an Aston.
Alternatively he might care to lend it to you every other weekend for a run to Lands End and back?
Baxter 69 said:
I know. It's very strange but my dad is the kind of guy that buys the car he wants and tries to not worry about the depreciation... It will be an everyday car but he does barely any miles. He looks at the money he spends on cars as ' Disposable ' money which in my eyes is silly but I admire him for it and worries more about reliability and more short term possible costs and problems.
That doesn't make any sense. If your Dad's really not bothered about depreciation (good man - I'm from the 'buy it and enjoy it school' too) which could run at £10k pa or more why on earth would he bother about the difference in servicing/running costs which will probably be measured in £100s only
cardigankid said:
Baxter 69 said:
I know. It's very strange but my dad is the kind of guy that buys the car he wants and tries to not worry about the depreciation... It will be an everyday car but he does barely any miles. .
I admire your/his attitude on depreciation, of course it is going to lose money, its the enhancement of your life that matters. However, just my opinion, using a car every day but not covering a high mileage can be a good way of really knackering it. This is stating the blindingly obvious but the car never gets a good run, is always running cold, and is not being used for the intended purpose.I know a guy who does just this, 2 miles to work, 2 miles home, virtually every day. BMW 323i Coupe, owned four years, new engine. Jaguar XK8, ditto. Jury out on his current motor. In these circumstances can I suggest that the Porsche might last longer, or a Bentley Conti GT. Its a brutal thing to do to an Aston.
Alternatively he might care to lend it to you every other weekend for a run to Lands End and back?
I would take it for a good drive down a motorway or something every weekend happily, but Im only 17 and insurance is near enough impossible...
My dad would allow me to though because he knows I would be sensible...
Pugsey said:
Baxter 69 said:
I know. It's very strange but my dad is the kind of guy that buys the car he wants and tries to not worry about the depreciation... It will be an everyday car but he does barely any miles. He looks at the money he spends on cars as ' Disposable ' money which in my eyes is silly but I admire him for it and worries more about reliability and more short term possible costs and problems.
That doesn't make any sense. If your Dad's really not bothered about depreciation (good man - I'm from the 'buy it and enjoy it school' too) which could run at £10k pa or more why on earth would he bother about the difference in servicing/running costs which will probably be measured in £100s onlyThanks for the replies.
Edited by Baxter 69 on Monday 29th September 21:25
Baxter
The 997 is infinitely superior to the 996.
The 996 feels dated and old!!
The 997 requires servicing every 2 years at a cost of around £600.
The Aston requires servicing annually at a cost of around £800.
Early 997 C2S are around 10k cheaper that the Vantage.
The 997 C2S is a superior drivers car, however it does not compare to the Vantage V8.
However nearly every other car is a 911!! They are common and look bland!!
The vantage however feels special, it makes you feel special.
It is entirely in a different league.
The main question your dad needs to ask himself is
"Does he want a driver’s car, OR does he want something special!!!"
Based on economics, the Porsche is the best buy.
However every time you see an Aston.........................
The 997 is infinitely superior to the 996.
The 996 feels dated and old!!
The 997 requires servicing every 2 years at a cost of around £600.
The Aston requires servicing annually at a cost of around £800.
Early 997 C2S are around 10k cheaper that the Vantage.
The 997 C2S is a superior drivers car, however it does not compare to the Vantage V8.
However nearly every other car is a 911!! They are common and look bland!!
The vantage however feels special, it makes you feel special.
It is entirely in a different league.
The main question your dad needs to ask himself is
"Does he want a driver’s car, OR does he want something special!!!"
Based on economics, the Porsche is the best buy.
However every time you see an Aston.........................
bikeracer1098 said:
Baxter
The 997 is infinitely superior to the 996.
The 996 feels dated and old!!
The 997 requires servicing every 2 years at a cost of around £600.
The Aston requires servicing annually at a cost of around £800.
Early 997 C2S are around 10k cheaper that the Vantage.
The 997 C2S is a superior drivers car, however it does not compare to the Vantage V8.
However nearly every other car is a 911!! They are common and look bland!!
The vantage however feels special, it makes you feel special.
It is entirely in a different league.
The main question your dad needs to ask himself is
"Does he want a driver’s car, OR does he want something special!!!"
Based on economics, the Porsche is the best buy.
However every time you see an Aston.........................
He LOVES the look of the Aston and thinks it's the 'Sexiest' car ever built. I have to agree but the thought of servicing and new clutches or whatever else goes wrong with these cars does worry him.The 997 is infinitely superior to the 996.
The 996 feels dated and old!!
The 997 requires servicing every 2 years at a cost of around £600.
The Aston requires servicing annually at a cost of around £800.
Early 997 C2S are around 10k cheaper that the Vantage.
The 997 C2S is a superior drivers car, however it does not compare to the Vantage V8.
However nearly every other car is a 911!! They are common and look bland!!
The vantage however feels special, it makes you feel special.
It is entirely in a different league.
The main question your dad needs to ask himself is
"Does he want a driver’s car, OR does he want something special!!!"
Based on economics, the Porsche is the best buy.
However every time you see an Aston.........................
The chance is definately higher of something going wrong with an Aston than with a Porsche. Lets be honest now...
Anyway, Driving both on Saturday and I have to say I am looking forward to it more than he is!...
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