Vantage 12 spy pics... looks like it might be happening!

[jus]

More at http://www.nextautos.com/spied-aston-martin-vantag...

[bogie]

yeah its happening...latest rumour is that it will be down from 600bhp to 'only' 550bhp, BUT the price has come down to - target price of £120K ...thats more like it...if they can do that, they are onto a winner I reckon

[bmartin]

Does anybody have a guess what color the prototype shown above is painted in ?

[jus]

bogie said:

yeah its happening...latest rumour is that it will be down from 600bhp to 'only' 550bhp, BUT the price has come down to - target price of £120K ...thats more like it...if they can do that, they are onto a winner I reckon

Looks like it'll be a dry-sumped version of the DBS's motor then, which is what I suspected...

[bogie]

jus said:

bogie said:

yeah its happening...latest rumour is that it will be down from 600bhp to 'only' 550bhp, BUT the price has come down to - target price of £120K ...thats more like it...if they can do that, they are onto a winner I reckon

Looks like it'll be a dry-sumped version of the DBS's motor then, which is what I suspected...

yup thats what it said in the magazine

[razbox]

bmartin said:

Does anybody have a guess what color the prototype shown above is painted in ?

Isn't that Meteorite?

[bmartin]

razbox said:

bmartin said:

Does anybody have a guess what color the prototype shown above is painted in ?

Isn't that Meteorite?

This was my first thought too. Would love it to be Meteorite, it looks stunning on those pics and I'm very likely going to choose that colour for my upcoming V8V.

[:J:]

bogie said:

jus said:

bogie said:

yeah its happening...latest rumour is that it will be down from 600bhp to 'only' 550bhp, BUT the price has come down to - target price of £120K ...thats more like it...if they can do that, they are onto a winner I reckon

Looks like it'll be a dry-sumped version of the DBS's motor then, which is what I suspected...

yup thats what it said in the magazine

You suspect it might be dry sumped, the magazine says it will be dry sumped, but Aston themselves say it won't be dry sumped, so I guess we will just have to wait and see.....

Edited by :J: on Saturday 12th July 17:57

[bogie]

mmm...well the V8 has to be dry sumped and only just fits height wise...so surely the V12 must be !

[Pugsey]

Re dry sumping - it depends a little on how hardcore they want to go I think. There really doesn't appear to be room under bonnet to go this route so the gubbins needs to go in the boot - like to prototype. But will Aston think punters will except even less space? It certainly needs dry sumping, as my understanding is that the BIG problem with this car is cooling. Although dry sumping is usually used to, primarily, prevent oil starvation in corners it is also a great help in terms of cooling.

If the drysump tank etc goes in the boot and a cage reduces internal space the car becomes virtually a track day only toy and at +£120k there are a LOT of other options - not least GT3/GT3RS which still have room to take you on a Continental jaunt etc. For me this car needs to be very focused BUT still useable outside the trackday arena.

Edited by Pugsey on Monday 14th July 08:02

[jus]

I think they have no choice but to dry-sump it, given the engine's height and the fact that the bonnet already has to be reprofiled with a bit of more of a bulge to fit the dry-sumped DBRS9 engine -- this was explained by Aston themselves regarding the prototype. Besides which the V8 is already dry-sumped. I didn't know the oil tank went into the boot for the V12 though, that's quite a PITA... surely they can find space for it in the bonnet?

[:J:]

jus said:

I think they have no choice but to dry-sump it, given the engine's height and the fact that the bonnet already has to be reprofiled with a bit of more of a bulge to fit the dry-sumped DBRS9 engine -- this was explained by Aston themselves regarding the prototype. Besides which the V8 is already dry-sumped. I didn't know the oil tank went into the boot for the V12 though, that's quite a PITA... surely they can find space for it in the bonnet?

It's little bit tight under there.......

[Pugsey]

:J: said:

jus said:

I think they have no choice but to dry-sump it, given the engine's height and the fact that the bonnet already has to be reprofiled with a bit of more of a bulge to fit the dry-sumped DBRS9 engine -- this was explained by Aston themselves regarding the prototype. Besides which the V8 is already dry-sumped. I didn't know the oil tank went into the boot for the V12 though, that's quite a PITA... surely they can find space for it in the bonnet?

It's little bit tight under there.......

Crumbs. You'd think that anything other than a completely straight strut brace would, itself, flex wouldn't you?

[coleo]

jus said:

Its quite amusing how Aston have disguised the badge, it's not fooling anyone - everyone know's who the manafacturer is!

[JohnG1]

£120k for 550bhp? I was hoping for £120k for 600bhp.

But it's a mighty impressive looking machine! Any news on a date for sales?

[bogie]

JohnG1 said:

£120k for 550bhp? I was hoping for £120k for 600bhp.

But it's a mighty impressive looking machine! Any news on a date for sales?

no problem...judging by the number of tuning firms springin up with products for the Vantage, another 50bhp just from changing the exhaust is no problem

[Pugsey]

bogie said:

JohnG1 said:

£120k for 550bhp? I was hoping for £120k for 600bhp.

But it's a mighty impressive looking machine! Any news on a date for sales?

no problem...judging by the number of tuning firms springin up with products for the Vantage, another 50bhp just from changing the exhaust is no problem

"Actually sir we can give you another 100bhp just by LOOKING at your car. TRUST us" Yeah, right.

[:J:]

They reckoned the one at the Festival Of Speed was running around 620bhp as it was using 102 RON fuel.

[bogie]

Pugsey said:

bogie said:

JohnG1 said:

£120k for 550bhp? I was hoping for £120k for 600bhp.

But it's a mighty impressive looking machine! Any news on a date for sales?

no problem...judging by the number of tuning firms springin up with products for the Vantage, another 50bhp just from changing the exhaust is no problem

"Actually sir we can give you another 100bhp just by LOOKING at your car. TRUST us" Yeah, right.

LOL it does seem that the more your car costs, the more margin they put on the tuning products regardless...I mean Ive seen the back box, I can get a custom made stainless one-off for £700 ish...so why is every back box for the Vantage £1800 ish? ...same for the sports cats, get a generic 200cell unit, and a bit of stainless each end to mate up...same as every other one Ive had and they were £300 tops...so why are Vantage ones £750 each? ! ...a licence to print money me thinks and if I start tinkering with my Vantage, it will go to my little back street guy who just claims it will be a nice job, rather than one of these "50bhp increase" firms

[cardigankid]

Pugsey said:

If the drysump tank etc goes in the boot and a cage reduces internal space the car becomes virtually a track day only toy and at +£120k there are a LOT of other options - not least GT3/GT3RS which still have room to take you on a Continental jaunt etc. For me this car needs to be very focused BUT still useable outside the trackday arena.

Edited by Pugsey on Monday 14th July 08:02

Surely a cage would only be an option for those who wanted to go tracking? It looks like one awesome machine, and with all the bodywork mods, quite advanced down the line towards production.