Quicksilver/Tubi Exhausts

Quicksilver/Tubi Exhausts

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whoami

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13,154 posts

245 months

Sunday 6th April 2008
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I got a mailshot from my local dealer offering to supply and fit a Quicksilver exhaust for £2250. I know that a more competetive price would be c£2K.

Does anyone know the price of a comparable Tubi system?

Cheers.

Murph7355

38,636 posts

261 months

Sunday 6th April 2008
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Ironic you ask...

I know the importers of Tubis in the UK (Scuderia Systems) - they fitted one to my previous 355 around 6yrs ago, a car that *needs* a sports exhaust to release the proper noise.

I'm having a few days off work so popped by them for a bit of a mooch to see what was going on. It's partly what prompted some of the banter on the AMOC forum as I was chatting to them about warranties etc.

Price for a V8 is just over 1,680GBP + fitting (which is c. 140GBP). So ~1,820GBP all in.

They also do systems for the DB9 at c. 1,760GBP + fitting.

As I'm always on the scrounge, they offered a 15% discount if 5 or more systems are all ordered at once (for any mix of Aston system). There would also be 25% off fitting. So a V8 system would be c. 1,535GBP fitted (1430GBP for the exhaust only).

Prices above are inclusive of VAT.

I also have back to back rolling road graphs and I think they have some sound files on their site (having heard it first hand, it really is very, very good). It's a nice bit of kit. Much smaller and lighter than the std system. From pictures, much smaller than the QS one too (a system which I haven't heard tbh).






whoami

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Sunday 6th April 2008
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Murph7355 said:
Ironic you ask...

I know the importers of Tubis in the UK (Scuderia Systems) - they fitted one to my previous 355 around 6yrs ago, a car that *needs* a sports exhaust to release the proper noise.

I'm having a few days off work so popped by them for a bit of a mooch to see what was going on. It's partly what prompted some of the banter on the AMOC forum as I was chatting to them about warranties etc.

Price for a V8 is just over 1,680GBP + fitting (which is c. 140GBP). So ~1,820GBP all in.

They also do systems for the DB9 at c. 1,760GBP + fitting.

As I'm always on the scrounge, they offered a 15% discount if 5 or more systems are all ordered at once (for any mix of Aston system). There would also be 25% off fitting. So a V8 system would be c. 1,535GBP fitted (1430GBP for the exhaust only).

Prices above are inclusive of VAT.

I also have back to back rolling road graphs and I think they have some sound files on their site (having heard it first hand, it really is very, very good). It's a nice bit of kit. Much smaller and lighter than the std system. From pictures, much smaller than the QS one too (a system which I haven't heard tbh).
I'd be very interested in the "group buy" if you get enough people interested.

Interesting that they only claim a 10BHP increase where Quicksilver claim a dyno'ed 20BHP.

Whether you would notice the difference is another matter but an interesting difference anyway.

Paramount claim that they can do a 60BHP increase with an exhaust, ecu mapping and racing cats. Before and after dyno maps are provided.






Murph7355

38,636 posts

261 months

Sunday 6th April 2008
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whoami said:
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Paramount claim that they can do a 60BHP increase with an exhaust, ecu mapping and racing cats. Before and after dyno maps are provided.
Rolling roads are not supremely accurate machines.

End of the day, biggest gains from an exhaust are going to be quality of sound and weight loss.

I know someone on here has had the work done, but my main doubt over the 60bhp claim is that Aston themselves got much less than this on the N400 and I'm pretty sure that needed more fundamental mods (changes to parts on the engine rather than just mapping changes and a decent exhaust). If it were that easy, surely the rumoured 4.7l engine would be superfluous and Aston would just be remapping and fitting a new exhaust end to end?

That said, you will 100% definitely feel another 16% in power. Do you know how much this costs?

whoami

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13,154 posts

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Sunday 6th April 2008
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Murph7355 said:
whoami said:
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Paramount claim that they can do a 60BHP increase with an exhaust, ecu mapping and racing cats. Before and after dyno maps are provided.
Rolling roads are not supremely accurate machines.

End of the day, biggest gains from an exhaust are going to be quality of sound and weight loss.

I know someone on here has had the work done, but my main doubt over the 60bhp claim is that Aston themselves got much less than this on the N400 and I'm pretty sure that needed more fundamental mods (changes to parts on the engine rather than just mapping changes and a decent exhaust). If it were that easy, surely the rumoured 4.7l engine would be superfluous and Aston would just be remapping and fitting a new exhaust end to end?

That said, you will 100% definitely feel another 16% in power. Do you know how much this costs?
Yes, I was quoted just short of £5K for all three items.


whoami

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Sunday 6th April 2008
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Murph7355 said:
whoami said:
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Paramount claim that they can do a 60BHP increase with an exhaust, ecu mapping and racing cats. Before and after dyno maps are provided.
I know someone on here has had the work done
You mean the Paramount stuff I mentioned?

Murph7355

38,636 posts

261 months

Monday 7th April 2008
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whoami said:
You mean the Paramount stuff I mentioned?
I think so - flo_parts or something like that. Just found the poster

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/profile.asp?h...

btw, their website has the price at 5.7k incl. VAT...

If we say an exhaust is circa 1.7k, and a pair of cats around 1.2k (going by prices for Ferrari cats), then sub 5k means ~2k for the remap and (looking at their site) lowered ride height and a "handling kit". Compared to the Prodrive stuff, good value (assuming it carries similar warranty to the Prodrive mods).

Edited by Murph7355 on Monday 7th April 08:09 to add the user name


Edited by Murph7355 on Monday 7th April 08:12

whoami

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Monday 7th April 2008
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They didnt quote me for lowering or anything other than the exhaust, remap and cats.

Total cost was £4987.88 including VAT, fitting and before and after dyno runs.

Murph7355

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261 months

Monday 7th April 2008
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whoami said:
They didnt quote me for lowering or anything other than the exhaust, remap and cats.

Total cost was £4987.88 including VAT, fitting and before and after dyno runs.
I believe the Prodrive mods are 6k for the performance pack. And I don't believe this includes a revised rear box (just revised ECU and cats). Prodrive claim 425bhp I believe. So 15bhp less than Paramount which I guess could be achieved with the rear box change (so 60bhp would seem doable - I wonder if Aston did make fundamental changes to the N400? The Prodrive mods note that 98RON fuel should be used, so I wonder if the N400 doesn't need it).

Depends on the warranty situation, but it looks like they're not going to be a million miles away from each other value wise.



FloPlast

275 posts

202 months

Monday 7th April 2008
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I was the person with the Mods. I have not used the other manufacturers, however have been very pleased with the larini system and can report a real differance in the way it now accelerates. The off the line performance is both measurable and pleasing.

A 007 SJS

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198 months

Monday 7th April 2008
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Hi Flo,
What exactly did you have done by paramount and on what car?
Steve.

whoami

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Monday 7th April 2008
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FloPlast said:
I was the person with the Mods. I have not used the other manufacturers, however have been very pleased with the larini system and can report a real differance in the way it now accelerates. The off the line performance is both measurable and pleasing.
Flo, thanks for the feedback.

How much louder than standard is the Larini?

Did you also have the race cats fitted?

Cheers.

FloPlast

275 posts

202 months

Monday 7th April 2008
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I had 200 cel race cats fitted and new back box and ecu upgrade, the noise is amazing and it just sound like a V8 should. I would say the car is 50% louder then standard on full throttle- Rolling road showed 440+ BHP which represents 16%+ uplift in power.

FloPlast

275 posts

202 months

Monday 7th April 2008
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sorry Steve 2006 V8 Vantage

whoami

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Monday 7th April 2008
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FloPlast said:
I had 200 cel race cats fitted and new back box and ecu upgrade, the noise is amazing and it just sound like a V8 should. I would say the car is 50% louder then standard on full throttle- Rolling road showed 440+ BHP which represents 16%+ uplift in power.
A pretty worthwhile increase on standard.

Do you have any vids of the car which would demonstrate the sound?

Cheers

FloPlast

275 posts

202 months

Tuesday 8th April 2008
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If you go on to the Larini website, my car is on the video section after it had the rear box done, but only prior to the sports cats being added which would add another 25-30% in noise/sound