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Advice please...
I'm looking to treat myself to a V8, having owned Porsches over the last few years. I have a few questions:
I'm told the V8 had some minor tweaks sometime in 2006, when and what was changed?
What are AM buyers bidding for 06/07 cars?
When is a facelift model likely to be seen?
The used cars available only have low mileages, are they a practical daily drive?
Will putting 12k miles/year on a V8 be the kiss of death to the residual value?
Many thanks.
I'm looking to treat myself to a V8, having owned Porsches over the last few years. I have a few questions:
I'm told the V8 had some minor tweaks sometime in 2006, when and what was changed?
What are AM buyers bidding for 06/07 cars?
When is a facelift model likely to be seen?
The used cars available only have low mileages, are they a practical daily drive?
Will putting 12k miles/year on a V8 be the kiss of death to the residual value?
Many thanks.
I'm told the V8 had some minor tweaks sometime in 2006, when and what was changed?
>>Later 07 cars had things like Ipod connection etc and a few other interior tweaks
What are AM buyers bidding for 06/07 cars?
>>>no idea
When is a facelift model likely to be seen?
>>> the N400 limited edition has been announced now
The used cars available only have low mileages, are they a practical daily drive?
>>Yes - Ive done 13K miles since April in mine - will probably do 20K a year in it
Will putting 12k miles/year on a V8 be the kiss of death to the residual value?
>>>12K shouldnt be a problem really...although I would be used to lessen the blow - geta year old one that someones barely run in and save 15-£20K on list ....put 36K on it and by the time its 3-4 years old it will have evened out
>>Later 07 cars had things like Ipod connection etc and a few other interior tweaks
What are AM buyers bidding for 06/07 cars?
>>>no idea
When is a facelift model likely to be seen?
>>> the N400 limited edition has been announced now
The used cars available only have low mileages, are they a practical daily drive?
>>Yes - Ive done 13K miles since April in mine - will probably do 20K a year in it
Will putting 12k miles/year on a V8 be the kiss of death to the residual value?
>>>12K shouldnt be a problem really...although I would be used to lessen the blow - geta year old one that someones barely run in and save 15-£20K on list ....put 36K on it and by the time its 3-4 years old it will have evened out
There are more informed souls on this site who can comment on the 06 model changes but I've just taken delivery of a 08 model (Roadster) after passing on my 07 Coupe to a work colleague. Apparently one of the first 08 models in the UK per the dealer (I should add normal exceptional sevice from the HWM team in Walton).
No idea about the technical side (suspension etc) other than it feels so much more composed than the 07 model. Trivial things like squealing brakes have been sorted, integrated iPOD connection controlled by hifi unit and an all together tighter feel. Clearly my view may be distorted by the fact I've been driving topless in what has been the best 4 days we've seen since April. I used to get some fantastic looks / comments from passers-by in the Coupe. Doesn't even come close to the reaction the Roadster gets.
Also spent the weekend watching England get thrashed in Paris and saw my first Audi R8 in the flesh. Impressive noise and makes quite a statement but still not convinced it isn't this year's fashion. Think I'll stick with the "No.1 cool brand"!
No idea about the technical side (suspension etc) other than it feels so much more composed than the 07 model. Trivial things like squealing brakes have been sorted, integrated iPOD connection controlled by hifi unit and an all together tighter feel. Clearly my view may be distorted by the fact I've been driving topless in what has been the best 4 days we've seen since April. I used to get some fantastic looks / comments from passers-by in the Coupe. Doesn't even come close to the reaction the Roadster gets.
Also spent the weekend watching England get thrashed in Paris and saw my first Audi R8 in the flesh. Impressive noise and makes quite a statement but still not convinced it isn't this year's fashion. Think I'll stick with the "No.1 cool brand"!
Q: I'm told the V8 had some minor tweaks sometime in 2006, when and what was changed?
A: Sept 06 (56 plate) was MY07. Revised seats, revised options such as bluetooth, LEDs that light up in the door handles (the AMOC site has detailed info on all changes). Mostly minor stuff, but I felt them worth it (especially the LEDs!). These later cars also seem less prone to gremlins (as with most low-ish volume cars - the later the car, usually the more reliable as they learn how to glue them together).
I don't believe coupes are coming with iPod connectivity yet - will probably come on stream around September this year.
Q: What are AM buyers bidding for 06/07 cars?
A: How long's a piece of string
You're going to be looking aroung 70k absolute min for a good MY07 I reckon, and probably a good few k more. Dealers will obviously offer to buy back at a good chunk less than that, but that's largely irrelevant unless you're a dealer or in a hurry to sell.
Note that you must compare spec carefully when deciding on relative value.
Q: When is a facelift model likely to be seen?
A: The N400 is it effectively IMO. Think deliveries of these start at the end of the year. Expect it to become the std model (again IMO) early next year.
Q: The used cars available only have low mileages, are they a practical daily drive?
A: IMO definitely (unless your last question is key to you). Comfy, drive nicely, mine's been reliable thus far. Oh...fuel. Don't ask, just get a points card with your favourite brand
Q: Will putting 12k miles/year on a V8 be the kiss of death to the residual value?
A: Only as much as any high end car (afraid I'm not really including Porsche there as people seem to expect them to be used). Expect 1k per mth as long as you hold onto it for a little while (i.e. >12mths). The cars seem solid and they're eternally beautiful things. Key will be how many they end up making. Also key will be not being in a major rush to sell IMO.
A: Sept 06 (56 plate) was MY07. Revised seats, revised options such as bluetooth, LEDs that light up in the door handles (the AMOC site has detailed info on all changes). Mostly minor stuff, but I felt them worth it (especially the LEDs!). These later cars also seem less prone to gremlins (as with most low-ish volume cars - the later the car, usually the more reliable as they learn how to glue them together).
I don't believe coupes are coming with iPod connectivity yet - will probably come on stream around September this year.
Q: What are AM buyers bidding for 06/07 cars?
A: How long's a piece of string
You're going to be looking aroung 70k absolute min for a good MY07 I reckon, and probably a good few k more. Dealers will obviously offer to buy back at a good chunk less than that, but that's largely irrelevant unless you're a dealer or in a hurry to sell.
Note that you must compare spec carefully when deciding on relative value.
Q: When is a facelift model likely to be seen?
A: The N400 is it effectively IMO. Think deliveries of these start at the end of the year. Expect it to become the std model (again IMO) early next year.
Q: The used cars available only have low mileages, are they a practical daily drive?
A: IMO definitely (unless your last question is key to you). Comfy, drive nicely, mine's been reliable thus far. Oh...fuel. Don't ask, just get a points card with your favourite brand
Q: Will putting 12k miles/year on a V8 be the kiss of death to the residual value?
A: Only as much as any high end car (afraid I'm not really including Porsche there as people seem to expect them to be used). Expect 1k per mth as long as you hold onto it for a little while (i.e. >12mths). The cars seem solid and they're eternally beautiful things. Key will be how many they end up making. Also key will be not being in a major rush to sell IMO.
yeah - they get stone chipped...kinda like most other cars these days with the "modern" ECO friendly paint htey use .....but I doubt you will find one in a main dealer with excessive chipping to be honest
just buy one, get the warranty niggles done (there were a few recalls for gearbox etc) and enjoy it it
just buy one, get the warranty niggles done (there were a few recalls for gearbox etc) and enjoy it it
SXO said:
There are more informed souls on this site who can comment on the 06 model changes but I've just taken delivery of a 08 model (Roadster) after passing on my 07 Coupe to a work colleague. Apparently one of the first 08 models in the UK per the dealer (I should add normal exceptional sevice from the HWM team in Walton).
No idea about the technical side (suspension etc) other than it feels so much more composed than the 07 model. Trivial things like squealing brakes have been sorted, integrated iPOD connection controlled by hifi unit and an all together tighter feel. Clearly my view may be distorted by the fact I've been driving topless in what has been the best 4 days we've seen since April. I used to get some fantastic looks / comments from passers-by in the Coupe. Doesn't even come close to the reaction the Roadster gets.
Also spent the weekend watching England get thrashed in Paris and saw my first Audi R8 in the flesh. Impressive noise and makes quite a statement but still not convinced it isn't this year's fashion. Think I'll stick with the "No.1 cool brand"!
Don't suppose it was you coming off the A3 at PainsHill the other day .. topless V8 Aston .. very nice.No idea about the technical side (suspension etc) other than it feels so much more composed than the 07 model. Trivial things like squealing brakes have been sorted, integrated iPOD connection controlled by hifi unit and an all together tighter feel. Clearly my view may be distorted by the fact I've been driving topless in what has been the best 4 days we've seen since April. I used to get some fantastic looks / comments from passers-by in the Coupe. Doesn't even come close to the reaction the Roadster gets.
Also spent the weekend watching England get thrashed in Paris and saw my first Audi R8 in the flesh. Impressive noise and makes quite a statement but still not convinced it isn't this year's fashion. Think I'll stick with the "No.1 cool brand"!
porschecaymanS said:
Is there anything in particular to watch out for when buying these cars used?
I'm told they are prone to stone chips.
Do some searching here and on the amoc site. Been discussed many times I'm told they are prone to stone chips.
Basically on an 07 there shouldn't be anything. Stone chips are a fact of life on sports cars. Buy a car with stoneguards and it stops the rear getting pepperred too.
They can leak oil from the front of the engine - warranty item.
Similarly the gearbox can be notchy - warranty item.
As with all cars, check all electrics work fine.
Go look at a few. You'll spot any that haven't been cherished, and those are to be avoided.
Great cars.
SCO said:
Sorry to go a bit off topic but at what point does the gearbox issue go from "they always do that when cold" to being a warranty item?
Mine is ok when cold but 1st to 2nd could be a lot smoother, fine when warmed up.
This is a known issue and addressed by Service Bulletin #236. Take it in to your dealer and make him aware.Mine is ok when cold but 1st to 2nd could be a lot smoother, fine when warmed up.
Mine is being done whilst I type down at the Works Service.
Steve
Grant3 said:
In my experience it improves the gearbox function but doesn't totally cure the problem!
I guess it depends what constitutes a "problem".The gearbox is meaty and can be notchy. But IME it always shifts quickly and personally I prefer this sort of feel than the sort you get in, say, VWs (i.e. vague and rubbery).
Murph7355 said:
Grant3 said:
In my experience it improves the gearbox function but doesn't totally cure the problem!
I guess it depends what constitutes a "problem".The gearbox is meaty and can be notchy. But IME it always shifts quickly and personally I prefer this sort of feel than the sort you get in, say, VWs (i.e. vague and rubbery).
Grant3 said:
...so I'm with you really...
Phew - I was going to have to let you know that even my Mrs thinks the gearbox is easy Grant3 said:
...no car is perfect, ...
Absolutely agree. And being honest I wouldn't say no to another 150bhp, Tubi as standard etc etc...doubt it'd be a "better" car mind.On Pork, the new GT2 looks like it might be a very, very nice motor...
porschecaymanS said:
Many thanks.
Now all I have to do is find one!
My 8500 mile 06 coupe is being taken in by Grange at Brentwood (against a Roadster) on Saturday. Just done a 2500 mile trip to Italy and back and the car is driving beautifully. Might be worth a look (and no, I'm not on commission!).Now all I have to do is find one!
Edited by GlynMo on Wednesday 26th September 14:53
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