AMV8 or BMW M6

[ufoufo]

Hi guys

just wondering what the pros and cons of both the AMV8 versus the M6 are in your opinion. The car will be a daily driver, 15K miles per annum. Are there any reliability issues with the Aston, and how will it depreciate as the mileage climbs into 40-50ish miles?

Thanks in advance

[razbox]

ufoufo said:

Hi guys

just wondering what the pros and cons of both the AMV8 versus the M6 are in your opinion. The car will be a daily driver, 15K miles per annum. Are there any reliability issues with the Aston, and how will it depreciate as the mileage climbs into 40-50ish miles?

Thanks in advance

IMHO, the M6 is one of the ugliest cars on the road, and the AMV8 the prettiest by a mile. The Aston is plenty fast enough unless you have access to a track or an autobahn...

[bogie]

well depreciation will be bad on both, but worse on the Beemer judging by how much they drop to start with.

I plan on doing about 15K a year in my Vantage so bought a year old one for £73K with 7K on the clock to take the sting out of it a bit...I wouldnt buy a new one of either car for doing that sort of miles in unless I could afford to write of 50% of the cars value in 3 years

as for the driving experience..I havnt driven an M6, only an M5 ..its a great car, but once you get over the novelty of the engine/power etc you could be driving any mainstream German repmobile...the Aston gives you that special event feeling every day

[ufoufo]

razbox said:

ufoufo said:

Hi guys

just wondering what the pros and cons of both the AMV8 versus the M6 are in your opinion. The car will be a daily driver, 15K miles per annum. Are there any reliability issues with the Aston, and how will it depreciate as the mileage climbs into 40-50ish miles?

Thanks in advance

IMHO, the M6 is one of the ugliest cars on the road, and the AMV8 the prettiest by a mile. The Aston is plenty fast enough unless you have access to a track or an autobahn...

Yes I agree the M6 is not pretty but the 507bhp and SMG are making it a real contender for me. Also £55K for a 55 plate M6 is cheap considering the £80k list price. Judging by the number(too many) of AMV8s on the Autotrader, i recon that a 55 plate M6 will be worth the same as a 55 plate Aston in 2 years time. But the Aston is prettier and more upmarket image.......

Edited by ufoufo on Thursday 21st June 00:25

[bogie]

ufoufo said:

razbox said:

ufoufo said:

Hi guys

just wondering what the pros and cons of both the AMV8 versus the M6 are in your opinion. The car will be a daily driver, 15K miles per annum. Are there any reliability issues with the Aston, and how will it depreciate as the mileage climbs into 40-50ish miles?

Thanks in advance

IMHO, the M6 is one of the ugliest cars on the road, and the AMV8 the prettiest by a mile. The Aston is plenty fast enough unless you have access to a track or an autobahn...

Yes I agree the M6 is not pretty but the 507bhp and SMG are making it a real contender for me. Also £55K for a 55 plate M6 is cheap considering the £80k list price. Judging by the number(too many) of AMV8s on the Autotrader, i recon that a 55 plate M6 will be worth the same as a 55 plate Aston in 2 years time. But the Aston is prettier and more upmarket image.......

Edited by ufoufo on Thursday 21st June 00:25

I think your maths is a bit wrong there...theres no way an £80K M6 will be worth the same as a £90K Aston with similar mileage/age

the problem with the M6 is the M5 - it has 4 doors and offers the same for cheaper (which is why M6s are dropping like a stone from new)

Anyway, if its an only car + daily drive and you prefer straight line speed over all other aspects of the package then just get the M6...its probably the fastest uber barge you could get for £55K and good value a year old or so.

[ufoufo]

bogie said:

ufoufo said:

razbox said:

ufoufo said:

Hi guys

just wondering what the pros and cons of both the AMV8 versus the M6 are in your opinion. The car will be a daily driver, 15K miles per annum. Are there any reliability issues with the Aston, and how will it depreciate as the mileage climbs into 40-50ish miles?

Thanks in advance

IMHO, the M6 is one of the ugliest cars on the road, and the AMV8 the prettiest by a mile. The Aston is plenty fast enough unless you have access to a track or an autobahn...

Yes I agree the M6 is not pretty but the 507bhp and SMG are making it a real contender for me. Also £55K for a 55 plate M6 is cheap considering the £80k list price. Judging by the number(too many) of AMV8s on the Autotrader, i recon that a 55 plate M6 will be worth the same as a 55 plate Aston in 2 years time. But the Aston is prettier and more upmarket image.......

Edited by ufoufo on Thursday 21st June 00:25

I think your maths is a bit wrong there...theres no way an £80K M6 will be worth the same as a £90K Aston with similar mileage/age

the problem with the M6 is the M5 - it has 4 doors and offers the same for cheaper (which is why M6s are dropping like a stone from new)

Anyway, if its an only car + daily drive and you prefer straight line speed over all other aspects of the package then just get the M6...its probably the fastest uber barge you could get for £55K and good value a year old or so.

Coming from a E46 M3 I a bit biassed towards the M6. Is the Aston as technologically advanced and dynamic as the M6? or simply used by most owners as a weekend car and thus not racking up much mileage? Is the Aston as reliable as the BMW?

[Grant3]

Lets honest as lovely as the Aston is to behold, the M6 is amazing value used, because it depreciates so much. Don't believe that a £55k M6 will depreciate the same as an Aston though, you should know being a BMW man.
Just look at what happened to the 8 series, depreciation was to free fall levels.
The new 7 series is now cheaper than chips, 70k cars for 20ks!
BMW do not have a history in high end exotica & as such their top end cars do not retain value.
An M3 yes, its their bread & butter, but even this is affected by oversupply.

IMO the M6 makes sense when it gets into the high 30ks-40k-ish, then it will be awesome value & depreciation will be more sensible.

But if depreciation isn't an issue for you, they are different animals, the M6 is faster more refined, more reliable & a technofest.
The Aston is stunning to behold, sit in own, a fabulous drivers car that pips the M6 IMO & adds a class, image & ownership package that is in another world to the M6. It will be more quirky & have more faults, but it will get under your skin & you will want to sleep with it each night!

[Pugsey]

From a financial or technical point of view there a quite a few cars to consider ahead of an AMV8 and the M6 is certainly one of them. Thing is you NEED to do those calculations with the others - with the Aston you just WANT it. On the rare occassions that you are able to REALLY stretch the M6s legs (5% of the time?) you'll know why you bought it the other 95% of the time you'll spend reminding yourself why. With the Aston, if you do suffer any niggles - by no means a given any more - you'll need to remind yourself why you bought it but the rest of the time you'll just know. Go to your fav. country house hotel for the weekend and the doorman will stick the M6 round the back while he'll leave the Aston on full view by the front door and beautiful women will openly admire it rather than feigning dissinterest - says it all really.

Edited by Pugsey on Thursday 21st June 12:06

[ufoufo]

Pugsey said:

From a financial or technical point of view there a quite a few cars to consider ahead of an AMV8 and the M6 is certainly one of them. Thing is you NEED to do those calculations with the others - with the Aston you just WANT it. On the rare occassions that you are able to REALLY stretch the M6s legs (5% of the time?) you'll know why you bought it the other 95% of the time you'll spend reminding yourself why. With the Aston, if you do suffer any niggles - by no means a given any more - you'll need to remind yourself why you bought it but the rest of the time you'll just know. Go to your fav. country house hotel for the weekend and the doorman will stick the M6 round the back while he'll leave the Aston on full view by the front door and beautiful women will openly admire it rather than feigning dissinterest - says it all really.

Edited by Pugsey on Thursday 21st June 12:06

I agree but is the Aston built and designed for everyday use the way an M6 is? This is my worry.

[pkc]

I use my Vantage every day and drive around 12k per year. I`ve had it since January. Yes it does have niggling faults, but as someone else said here, the Aston is such an eye catcher and much admired. I had 911 s before. Lots of road rage from other drivers, none of that with the Aston.If you tell people you drive a BMW (any model)they are not particularly interested, if you say Aston, everyone wants to talk about it.I have conversations with complete strangers who see the car parked and want to talk about it.
You would never get that with a BMW. Its all about the whole package I reckon.

[CatherineJ]

If buying an M6, go for an ex management car. The savings are massive.

[AstonZagato]

ufoufo said:

Pugsey said:

From a financial or technical point of view there a quite a few cars to consider ahead of an AMV8 and the M6 is certainly one of them. Thing is you NEED to do those calculations with the others - with the Aston you just WANT it. On the rare occassions that you are able to REALLY stretch the M6s legs (5% of the time?) you'll know why you bought it the other 95% of the time you'll spend reminding yourself why. With the Aston, if you do suffer any niggles - by no means a given any more - you'll need to remind yourself why you bought it but the rest of the time you'll just know. Go to your fav. country house hotel for the weekend and the doorman will stick the M6 round the back while he'll leave the Aston on full view by the front door and beautiful women will openly admire it rather than feigning dissinterest - says it all really.

Edited by Pugsey on Thursday 21st June 12:06

I agree but is the Aston built and designed for everyday use the way an M6 is? This is my worry.

Clearly, the M6 is the car for you. It is a "heart over head" decision to buy an Aston. If you rationalise it, you will buy the M6 every time. It has fabulous technology and awesome performance at a decent price.

But it is pig ugly (sorry but that boot is just soooo wrong).

99% of owners would walk away from driving an M6 without a backward glance. The Aston owner would always want to just catch how its lines flow - stand back and admire it. If you don't get that now, go for the M6 every time.

Keep rationalising though. M5 is the same car, actually better to look at (IMHO better balanced to the eye) and cheaper. Keep going further and the Monaro will give you 90% of the thrills for 50% of the price - want one of them? Probably not. See, it isn't always about being rational...

Edited by AstonZagato on Saturday 23 June 08:19

[SXO]

Completely agree with pkc - 70 miles a day into London and stacks of compliments about the car from all ages / backgrounds. Everything from "wicked car, fella!" through to "what a lovely motor car". Even had one guy who whipped out his camcorder when I was stuck in the Clapham traffic chaos! There are definately more rational cars to buy and I've also had a few electric niggles but I've never really thought about things with an accountant head. No second thoughts or regrets at all. Even the white van drivers let me out of a junction!

[Murph7355]

Agree with AstonZagato.

[Maxf]

Have a think about the M6 warranty issues. BMW stiffed m-car owners last year when they radically changed their extended warranties - nobody knows how the v10 will behave when its a few years old and potentially out of warranty. Perhaps not a big issue to you, but may affect resale values if warranties change again and the engines/gearboxes to turn out to be unreliable in the longer term.

[andy355]

im sure the m6 is a great car but the aston has character and beauty


ps what happened with mcar warranties?

[rpgk]

Aston or BMW?? I had an AMV8 for 7 months from new, covered 8k miles. A couple of niggly problems but nothing major, but i was never confident it would make it it home!! Clutch would start smelling in traffic, horrible nosie at start up, brakes squealling all the time... nothing major but just annoying when you spend so much money and so much time in the car - believe me no-one says ' what a lovely car' when you pull up to the lights with your brakes squealling and your clutch smelling like billingsgate market! I eventually had enough after having to use a credit card to open the petrol cap again (even after 4 visits to the dealer for what should have been a very easy problem). For my sins I went to a 6 series, probably not the best choice but it was a great deal i couldn't refuse.
Don't get me wrong I loved the Aston, at the weekends, blipping around country lanes and A roads - but as a daily driver, >10k a year in and out of traffic - not for me.

[anonymous-user]

Its actually real easy to seperate these 2:

M6 = Supercar engine looking for a supercar body
V8V = Supercar body looking for a supercar engine

Now, if you could get the BMW V10 under the nose of the V8V, now we'd be talkin! lol!

Purely objectively the M6 is a better car, which ever measure you take, but cars like this are not objective, and subjectively the Astons character and image make it a car that is a lot easier to desire. For me though i would just be slightly disappointed every time i drove the Aston or the BMW, one for lack of performance and handling, the later for the poor image etc.

What would i do? get a 335d for the weekdays, and a Caterham R400 for the weekend and still get change from £70k!

[ufoufo]

Thanks to everyone for their reply...it has helped me make my mind up. My concern about the Aston was its daily usability and reliability. Yet no Aston driver/owner could reasure me. What clear from Aston owners is that the V8 is great for posing and image - and that you have to put up with various niggles and countless visits to the dealer. When you are using the car for the weekend this is OK, but for a daily driver it is not. Lets hope in the future they build a truely daily usable car. Until then it has to be the M6.

[GetCarter]

ufoufo said:

Thanks to everyone for their reply...it has helped me make my mind up. My concern about the Aston was its daily usability and reliability. Yet no Aston driver/owner could reasure me. What clear from Aston owners is that the V8 is great for posing and image - and that you have to put up with various niggles and countless visits to the dealer. When you are using the car for the weekend this is OK, but for a daily driver it is not. Lets hope in the future they build a truely daily usable car. Until then it has to be the M6.

Just to put that in perspective... my two M BMW cars both went back twice to the dealer with mechanical faults within the first year (from new). I even had to threaten legal action to get BM to fix a failed gearbox after a track day (which they did after it was reported in the press). I've had no problems with the Aston.

Edited by GetCarter on Wednesday 27th June 07:43