Zagatos

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FUBAR

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Tuesday 30th January 2007
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I think Ive posted these before, but worth a repost.

Friend of mine has amongst his collection, a brace of AM Zagotas. A coupe and a Volante. lick Running numberplates too

C & SC are doing an article on them for the March edition (out next month)



Loverly (in an ugly kind of way)

nda

22,345 posts

232 months

Tuesday 30th January 2007
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You say Zagota, I say Zagato....

You're right, they are an individual look - but what amazing cars to own.

FUBAR

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245 months

Tuesday 30th January 2007
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You say tomato, etc...I get the point paperbag
At least I got it right in the title

Both cars ex Sultan of Brunei


Edited by FUBAR on Wednesday 31st January 11:42

valentin

3,281 posts

222 months

Tuesday 30th January 2007
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IMO they aren't ugly. Sure they aren't beautiful either. But they are classic 80's shaped cars. The only 80's designed Cars Aston ever made.
check this one: www.astonmartins.com/v8/v8_zagato_vantage_volante.htm
The black one with a R.S.Williams 7.0 litre conversion is a stunning car!!!!!!

cardigankid

8,849 posts

219 months

Tuesday 30th January 2007
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Sure they are interesting cars, but from a really poor era in car design. Designers had seriously lost their way and their confidence for all sorts of good reasons. As car design they suck cold custard through a teapot spout I'm afraid. But they are worthy of their place in a museum.

sparks87

12,738 posts

220 months

Wednesday 31st January 2007
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I think they look awful, but i bet they sound nice and go some

Alex Gurr

420 posts

254 months

Sunday 4th February 2007
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I thought the volante's had a flat bonnet because they ran fuel injection rather than the coupe's carbs?

jhoneyball

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283 months

Sunday 4th February 2007
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valentin said:

The black one with a R.S.Williams 7.0 litre conversion is a stunning car!!!!!!


I've driven that black car. Not particularly nice, to be honest.

FUBAR

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Sunday 4th February 2007
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Alex Gurr said:
I thought the volante's had a flat bonnet because they ran fuel injection rather than the coupe's carbs?


Not according to these photos www.astonmartins.com/v8/v8_zagato_vantage_volante.htm

jhoneyball

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283 months

Sunday 4th February 2007
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The bonnet bulge was to clear the carbs used on the Vantage engine. The flat bonnet is for the fuel injected cars, with considerably less power.

There were only 4 or 5 Zag Vantage Volantes made -- I've driven two of them -- the black one which was converted to 7 litre, and the green one which was in the Hunter Green collection.

lightningghost

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256 months

Sunday 4th February 2007
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Cool. Ugly as sin, but very cool.

Alex Gurr

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254 months

Wednesday 7th February 2007
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jhoneyball said:
The bonnet bulge was to clear the carbs used on the Vantage engine. The flat bonnet is for the fuel injected cars, with considerably less power.

There were only 4 or 5 Zag Vantage Volantes made -- I've driven two of them -- the black one which was converted to 7 litre, and the green one which was in the Hunter Green collection.


Aahhhh. I thought all Volantes were injection and all coupes carb, the idea being that the Volante was more of a cruiser. Like all Aston models I suppose their will be variation depending on individual customer requirements.

I love the Vantage Zagato, which is starting to look like very good value against the later (and more common) V8 Vantage X-Packs, which seem to be rocketing in price. Even so, the original is just knee weakening





Edited by Alex Gurr on Wednesday 7th February 09:22

FUBAR

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Wednesday 7th February 2007
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Alex Gurr said:
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Thats a beauty! (or what I can see of it is)

Alex Gurr

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254 months

Wednesday 7th February 2007
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I know, the picture is too small to do the car justice.

I was tring to find a picture of the black Zagato (I am not sure which number) that is in a private Swiss collection. It was in Octane magazine a year or so back and is the most beautiful Zagato I have seen, each being so subtely different.

augkuo

17 posts

233 months

Wednesday 7th February 2007
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It's written up in the AM Quarterly, August 2006 issue page 56 - apparently they were barely used and had about 700 miles on them when your friend bought them.

FUBAR

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Wednesday 7th February 2007
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Sounds about right

v8vantage

191 posts

241 months

Friday 9th February 2007
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Cars were not owned by Sultan of Brunei and may have had low mileage but were in a very poor state when bought. The engine blocks had fuzz growing on them and the cars had sat for years outside under an awning in humid conditions.

FUBAR

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Friday 9th February 2007
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v8vantage said:
Cars were not owned by Sultan of Brunei and may have had low mileage but were in a very poor state when bought. The engine blocks had fuzz growing on them and the cars had sat for years outside under an awning in humid conditions.


They couldnt have been in that bad a condition as I believe you were intersted in buying them at the time?

Both cars have had fairly extensive restoration AFAIK and for certain all rubber/perishable items have been replaced.

The cars were both owned by the Sultan. One was bought directly off the Geneva Motorshow stand under an alias and the other was bought in his brother's name

richb

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291 months

Friday 9th February 2007
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sparks87 said:
I think they look awful, but i bet they sound nice and go some
Glad someone had the nerve to say that. I agree they look horrible and I can't see anything about them that's appealing. This really is a case of blinded by the badge, the Zagato one that is hehe

v8vantage

191 posts

241 months

Saturday 10th February 2007
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The video and pictures I have show just how bad they were. It was sad to see them in that state but makes me happy to know they have been restored to their former glory. Cars were in the possession of Prince Suffri, the Sultan's younger brother when I looked at buying them, they were not part of the main collection. The agent who bought the cars did so on behalf of the Prince. I still have the numbered handbook for the Vantage coupe I got from him. The cars may look unusual but they are by far the best handling and driving of the V8 Astons ever handbuilt.