Vanquish's now knocking about in the £70k region...
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Hmmm...getting scarily close to my price range. This (ironically) is a bad thing....just go with me on this ok?
That puts it in direct competition with a proper Vantage and as we all know, the 90s Vantage is manna from heaven.
I *was* thinking of moving from the Sagaris to a Vantage, but now with a Vanquish hovering there...
So I need some of you out there to start telling me how cr@p the Vanquish is because Id really kick myself if I didnt buy a Vantage when I had the chance. Yet a Vanquish is awfully tempting...
That puts it in direct competition with a proper Vantage and as we all know, the 90s Vantage is manna from heaven.
I *was* thinking of moving from the Sagaris to a Vantage, but now with a Vanquish hovering there...
So I need some of you out there to start telling me how cr@p the Vanquish is because Id really kick myself if I didnt buy a Vantage when I had the chance. Yet a Vanquish is awfully tempting...
always looked so mean, especially the uprated version (was it 600BHP ?) The Vanquish is an awesome car. Pretty much everyone i spoke to who owns/has used the car complains about the gearbox being quite naff, but otherwise a great car with brilliant road presense. Also one of the best sounding cars on the road. 70k is a bargain, but the better colours demand higer prices, so watch out for that.
DJC said:
Yeah but a DB9? Its too well...too much of a pretty boy isnt it?
The DB9 and AMV8 are like Beckham and Wilkinson to the Vanquish and Vantage's Terry Butcher and Martin Johnson. Too much fashion, not enough beef. Im a beef kinda guy.
Can you get back to cars and away from your sexual prefs please :-)
Ok, look at it this way. The original Vantage is an awesome car, but the window on you being able to get one in your spec and low mileage and being at the lower end of its depreciation curve, is growing ever smaller. The Vanquish will be around for a good while yet in the spec you want. If you what longer until you get a Vanquish, more will be available to you, so you can get a better one then.
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combover said:
Ok, look at it this way. The original Vantage is an awesome car, but the window on you being able to get one in your spec and low mileage and being at the lower end of its depreciation curve, is growing ever smaller. The Vanquish will be around for a good while yet in the spec you want. If you what longer until you get a Vanquish, more will be available to you, so you can get a better one then.
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I dont have a spec or vastly care about colour (so long as it isnt f**king silver/grey/tungsten/whatever other silver&grey derived colour the marketing men have decided to invent this week).
gt2man-2 said:
I've heard about crushing maintenance bills and horrific gremlins with all Astons (even DB9 / AMV8s)
That would put me off.
I've 'heard' similar regarding Astons generally (having had a work colleague with a DB7 - hows a service bill of 5300 quid on a 2 year old car!).
With all due respect though, thats rumours - some direct experience of Vanquish ownership would be useful!
-- "What horrific Gremlins on the AMV8s, and DB9's have you been told about?"
Well, last week I was on the phone to a well known buyer/broker who was in the process of handing a DB9 over to a new customer.. the damn thing wouldn't start. He said they all need to be on permanent trickle charge at the very least, and begged me to never ever buy an Aston as they were all trouble. He also said the exact same thing to me in 2003.
>> Edited by gt2man-2 on Wednesday 18th January 10:37
Well, last week I was on the phone to a well known buyer/broker who was in the process of handing a DB9 over to a new customer.. the damn thing wouldn't start. He said they all need to be on permanent trickle charge at the very least, and begged me to never ever buy an Aston as they were all trouble. He also said the exact same thing to me in 2003.
>> Edited by gt2man-2 on Wednesday 18th January 10:37
i hate reading threads like this.
having fairly recently sold my toy, i'm after something different, but can't make up my mind what would be the right choice. the more threads i read about the different cars (astons, lambo's, ferrari's, lotus basically almost ANYTHING worth having) the more it just seems like the ownership proposition is too compromised by one issue or another.
fed up a little with the porsche brand (where i've come from) there doesn't seem to be anything out there really worth owning. what's wrong with the world!!!
having fairly recently sold my toy, i'm after something different, but can't make up my mind what would be the right choice. the more threads i read about the different cars (astons, lambo's, ferrari's, lotus basically almost ANYTHING worth having) the more it just seems like the ownership proposition is too compromised by one issue or another.
fed up a little with the porsche brand (where i've come from) there doesn't seem to be anything out there really worth owning. what's wrong with the world!!!
gt2man-2 said:Hang on though, thats just common sense.
-- "What horrific Gremlins on the AMV8s, and DB9's have you been told about?"
Well, last week I was on the phone to a well known buyer/broker who was in the process of handing a DB9 over to a new customer.. the damn thing wouldn't start. He said they all need to be on permanent trickle charge at the very least, and begged me to never ever buy an Aston as they were all trouble. He also said the exact same thing to me in 2003.
>> Edited by gt2man-2 on Wednesday 18th January 10:37
If I didn't use my SL every weekend (without fail), then THAT would have to be on permanent trickle charge. Looking at the service history (I have all of it from the previous owner), its had about a dozen batteries (I'm not exaggerating). Why? Because it wasn't used much.
My old mans Bentley is on trickle charge when its garaged.
Personally, someone telling me to keep a battery in tip top condition wouldn't put me off buying a car.
Decent list of cars Rob.
Im not sure if this is a *next* thing for me, but it is something that is making me think. As we all know, despite what common sense tells us, 12 months goes very quickly and Im thinking ahead over the next yr. The Vantage is a hero car and firmly in my head a *must own* vehicle. That the Vanquish is now dropping into the price range makes it automatically a must consider proposition. At some pt in the next 12months I expect to be in a position to make this purchase and has been mentioned above, the Vanquish will probably keep dropping over that time. Something is looking monstrously tempting
Im not sure if this is a *next* thing for me, but it is something that is making me think. As we all know, despite what common sense tells us, 12 months goes very quickly and Im thinking ahead over the next yr. The Vantage is a hero car and firmly in my head a *must own* vehicle. That the Vanquish is now dropping into the price range makes it automatically a must consider proposition. At some pt in the next 12months I expect to be in a position to make this purchase and has been mentioned above, the Vanquish will probably keep dropping over that time. Something is looking monstrously tempting
You've mis-read me Greg.. I'm not talking about leaving a car garaged for weeks on end.. In that situation it *is* common-sense to leave it on trickle.. as I have with my Ferraris + Lotus cars.
However, I said that they need to be on PERMANENT trickle charge, and that is the least of your electrical worries.. dashboards not working, warning lights coming on, going off for no reason etc.
If you go to Graypaul Nottingham, their Vanquish is the only car in the showroom with a trickle charger plugged in.
>> Edited by gt2man-2 on Wednesday 18th January 12:23
However, I said that they need to be on PERMANENT trickle charge, and that is the least of your electrical worries.. dashboards not working, warning lights coming on, going off for no reason etc.
If you go to Graypaul Nottingham, their Vanquish is the only car in the showroom with a trickle charger plugged in.
>> Edited by gt2man-2 on Wednesday 18th January 12:23
Well given the paucity of detail round here in the 'ol vanq I tripped on over the amoc website for a gander.
Not a lot of Vanq info around, but the main impressions I got from the posts there were as follows :
Clutch - Vanq is Manual gearbox controlled by computer in same way good old Ferrari is. Aston system seems more tempremental from whats written. Seems 12k miles is about the life of a clutch if driven normally, and a lot less if you hill start a lot - or even at all. Owners talk of some kind of cunning left foot braking manouvre to stop the clutch frying in traffic.
This seems ot be the common talking point. Cost of new clutch is quoted on the site from anywhere from 2k to 10k.
General unreliability - electrics etc not perfect by sounds of it. One owner has been through hell on a brand new Vanq S with the car spending the first 1500 miles in limp home mode and being returned to the factory on numerous occasions.......
I've seen vanq's on the road an they are mighty - it makes me want one. Still I've seen a not insignificant sample sitting in the middle of the road with smoke coming out of them waiting for a truck. The most memorable being Hugh Grant stranded on Richmond bridge. Not a happy looking owner I can tell you!
Still seems to be a fair few happy and satisfied owners on the AMOC - if you're serious about buying I'd ead over there and ask some questions....
www.amoc.org
Not a lot of Vanq info around, but the main impressions I got from the posts there were as follows :
Clutch - Vanq is Manual gearbox controlled by computer in same way good old Ferrari is. Aston system seems more tempremental from whats written. Seems 12k miles is about the life of a clutch if driven normally, and a lot less if you hill start a lot - or even at all. Owners talk of some kind of cunning left foot braking manouvre to stop the clutch frying in traffic.
This seems ot be the common talking point. Cost of new clutch is quoted on the site from anywhere from 2k to 10k.
General unreliability - electrics etc not perfect by sounds of it. One owner has been through hell on a brand new Vanq S with the car spending the first 1500 miles in limp home mode and being returned to the factory on numerous occasions.......
I've seen vanq's on the road an they are mighty - it makes me want one. Still I've seen a not insignificant sample sitting in the middle of the road with smoke coming out of them waiting for a truck. The most memorable being Hugh Grant stranded on Richmond bridge. Not a happy looking owner I can tell you!
Still seems to be a fair few happy and satisfied owners on the AMOC - if you're serious about buying I'd ead over there and ask some questions....
www.amoc.org
mr_tony said:
Well given the paucity of detail round here in the 'ol vanq I tripped on over the amoc website for a gander.
Not a lot of Vanq info around, but the main impressions I got from the posts there were as follows :
Clutch - Vanq is Manual gearbox controlled by computer in same way good old Ferrari is. Aston system seems more tempremental from whats written. Seems 12k miles is about the life of a clutch if driven normally, and a lot less if you hill start a lot - or even at all. Owners talk of some kind of cunning left foot braking manouvre to stop the clutch frying in traffic.
This seems ot be the common talking point. Cost of new clutch is quoted on the site from anywhere from 2k to 10k.
General unreliability - electrics etc not perfect by sounds of it. One owner has been through hell on a brand new Vanq S with the car spending the first 1500 miles in limp home mode and being returned to the factory on numerous occasions.......
I've seen vanq's on the road an they are mighty - it makes me want one. Still I've seen a not insignificant sample sitting in the middle of the road with smoke coming out of them waiting for a truck. The most memorable being Hugh Grant stranded on Richmond bridge. Not a happy looking owner I can tell you!
Still seems to be a fair few happy and satisfied owners on the AMOC - if you're serious about buying I'd ead over there and ask some questions....
www.amoc.org
Thanks for that Tony.
Ive got a little jaunt in one lined up on Monday afternoon down at Lancaster.
From the above though Im still thinking a proper Vantage not the lightweight new thing.
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