Spacers on a V8 Vantage?
Spacers on a V8 Vantage?
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RacingSloth69

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36 posts

8 months

Wednesday
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Haven't even collected the car yet and looking at a few jobs i would like to do smile

Considering whether to push the rears out slightly closer to the edges of the arches.
From what i can see there are a couple of options;
1 - 5mm spacers which let you use the original bolts but may cause issues if not fitted correctly as they are effectively just shims
2 - Wider (11 or 23mm) spacers that require you to trim the bolts and the wheels then bolt to the spacer rather than the hub.

Option #1 - will you notice any difference only being 5mm?
Option #2 seems to be around £300 per axle and once committed, you can't easily go back to standard.

Anyone had any experience and did they cause any long term issues? Are there any issues with the geo if you only push out the rears or would you be better off adding spacers to both axles?

Welcome your experience and feedback

baconsarney

12,383 posts

189 months

Wednesday
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Which MY Vantage?

Oh, and what diameter wheels?

Edited by baconsarney on Wednesday 19th August 09:25

RacingSloth69

Original Poster:

36 posts

8 months

Wednesday
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baconsarney said:
Which MY Vantage?

Oh, and what diameter wheels?

Edited by baconsarney on Wednesday 19th August 09:25
Sorry, that would help - 2009 4.7 with the 19" 5 Spoke Diamond Turned Alloy Wheels which i think were part of the sport pack

V8VS

190 posts

12 months

Wednesday
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I went with 12mm spacers and replacement nuts with longer internal thread. I did not like the thought of cutting the existing bolts down and do not like the additional strain created by bolting the spacer to the hub, then bolting the wheel to a spacer.

Whilst from an aesthetics point of view they could definitely go wider at the rear, it’s not all about aesthetics for me. I always like to keep the proportions the same as OE. So if I’m pushing the track out 24mm for example, I’d do that front and rear.

XMark

261 posts

199 months

Wednesday
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11mm don’t require trimming anything, they are slip on with longer threaded nuts. I have 11s all round and tbh the rear needs a bit more but I don’t want to cut the studs so just living with it


RacingSloth69

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36 posts

8 months

Thursday
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XMark said:
11mm don t require trimming anything, they are slip on with longer threaded nuts. I have 11s all round and tbh the rear needs a bit more but I don t want to cut the studs so just living with it

That looks awesome - did you get the longer nuts in the same package as the spacers?

baconsarney

12,383 posts

189 months

Thursday
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We re going to need pics smile

Edited by baconsarney on Thursday 20th August 08:20

XMark

261 posts

199 months

Thursday
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RacingSloth69 said:
That looks awesome - did you get the longer nuts in the same package as the spacers?
Thanks!
Yes, I bought the H&R complete kits

Nigel_O

3,817 posts

247 months

Thursday
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Any links to retailers for the full kit?

I really don’t like the idea of bolt-on spacers, especially if it involves cutting studs down, but I quite fancy the idea of hubcentric 11mm spacers that simply need new lug nuts to retain the same thread exposure.

XMark

261 posts

199 months

Thursday
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Nigel_O said:
Any links to retailers for the full kit?

I really don t like the idea of bolt-on spacers, especially if it involves cutting studs down, but I quite fancy the idea of hubcentric 11mm spacers that simply need new lug nuts to retain the same thread exposure.
I was lucky to find one mint pair on EBay and
Bought the other pair from AUTODOC when they had a discount code. Like you, I’m not a huge fan of spacers and these are as far as I will go, I’ve had no issues.
They’re stupidly expensive but the best around imo
H&R part number is 2265681

V8VS

190 posts

12 months

Thursday
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12mm front and rear:


V8VS

190 posts

12 months

Yesterday (08:15)
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I got the following:

Wheel Parts Direct: 20 14x2.0mm Tapered 41mm Thread 21mm
Also got bolt cover, but never used them.
£32.99

Professional Customer Design (PCD Parts):

5x114.3 PCD 68.1 CB Hubcentric Wheel Spacer (Silver) 12mm
£83.00




V8VS

190 posts

12 months

Yesterday (08:19)
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Nut thread comparison:





Greathey

221 posts

84 months

Yesterday (14:13)
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Wheel bearings will suffer unnecessarily

XMark

261 posts

199 months

Yesterday (18:33)
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Greathey said:
Wheel bearings will suffer unnecessarily
That old chestnut. 11mm spacers are little different than the s wheels 10” rear.

drac

367 posts

251 months

You may not need to cut studs. My wheels, lightweight forged 10 spoke, have pockets in the back that take the studs.

I didn't like how the 23mm rears 11mm front looked with standard ride height. Too pokey. This is the H&R set up which was actually designed originally for the DB9.



Looks much better lower,


However, I didn't really like the whole set up for ride and handling. It's not straightforward but easiest option is just the 11mm rear with extra thread nuts.

I might have another go one day now I'm running different anti roll bars and shocks. My gut tells me the best set up is probably slightly lowered (approximately 10mm) with 11mm spacers all-round.

Lefty

20,930 posts

230 months

XMark said:
Greathey said:
Wheel bearings will suffer unnecessarily
That old chestnut. 11mm spacers are little different than the s wheels 10 rear.
I guess it depends on how the offset compares and where the wheel centreline is.

But yeah I agree that sometimes there’s no difference at all.

I was driving home on evening and an Audi s3 pulled out of a junction in front of me and a front wheel came flying off. I stopped and the young laddie was dismayed “I just fitted new spacers today!” They were massive things, over an inch and one failed spectacularly. fk that.

V8VS

190 posts

12 months

Lefty said:
XMark said:
Greathey said:
Wheel bearings will suffer unnecessarily
That old chestnut. 11mm spacers are little different than the s wheels 10 rear.
I guess it depends on how the offset compares and where the wheel centreline is.

But yeah I agree that sometimes there s no difference at all.

I was driving home on evening and an Audi s3 pulled out of a junction in front of me and a front wheel came flying off. I stopped and the young laddie was dismayed I just fitted new spacers today! They were massive things, over an inch and one failed spectacularly. fk that.
Potentially not tightened the wheel nuts enough, or at all.


Edited by V8VS on Saturday 22 August 08:37

V8VS

190 posts

12 months

drac said:
You may not need to cut studs. My wheels, lightweight forged 10 spoke, have pockets in the back that take the studs.

I didn't like how the 23mm rears 11mm front looked with standard ride height. Too pokey. This is the H&R set up which was actually designed originally for the DB9.



Looks much better lower,


However, I didn't really like the whole set up for ride and handling. It's not straightforward but easiest option is just the 11mm rear with extra thread nuts.

I might have another go one day now I'm running different anti roll bars and shocks. My gut tells me the best set up is probably slightly lowered (approximately 10mm) with 11mm spacers all-round.
Looks great. Fab colour too.

It wouldn’t be a PistonHeads thread if we didn’t go off on a tangent… so would be interested to hear more about your change in dampers and anti-roll bars.

Also what’s hiding in the garage? Looks like possibly an Elise S2 as a first guess?

paulrog1

1,226 posts

169 months

Greathey said:
Wheel bearings will suffer unnecessarily
The wheel bearing on a V8V are the same for the DB9 and also DBS.

The DBS have 20" 11J on the rear so your absolutely not going to stress the wheel bearings.