Aston getting Apple CarPlay ULTRA - Helpful or Sinister?

Aston getting Apple CarPlay ULTRA - Helpful or Sinister?

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VantageHead

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240 posts

71 months

Thursday 15th May
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Folks may have received an email from Aston Martin today announcing Apple CarPlay ULTRA coming initially to DBX S. Takes control of more than Nav & Infotainment. Here’s the details in the email;



And here’s a close up of one of the interface pages (here showing control of HVAC);



There’s a good explanatory video by the Top Gear YouTube channel;



Helpful asset or sinister hindrance? Do you want another company taking over control of your car’s user interface? Android users may be relieved to hear that there’s nothing for them (yet!).

I’m sure (as with all early releases of software) that there will be initial bugs and glitches. You need minimum of iPhone 12 and iOS 18.4, and the system relies on a wireless connection.

Apparently this is coming to other manufacturers soon……

Mammasaid

4,788 posts

112 months

Thursday 15th May
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CountyLines

3,017 posts

18 months

Thursday 15th May
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Sinister? rofl

VantageHead

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240 posts

71 months

Thursday 15th May
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CountyLines said:
Sinister? rofl
As you’ll hear from the video, not all companies are happy with Apple taking over all their screens on their cars - the example cited is Ola Källenius at Mercedes who said a ‘big fat NO’!

Davil

492 posts

41 months

Friday 16th May
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VantageHead said:
As you’ll hear from the video, not all companies are happy with Apple taking over all their screens on their cars - the example cited is Ola Källenius at Mercedes who said a ‘big fat NO’!
His customers might disagree. I can’t think of a single manufacturer that produces good software. Mercedes is horrendous. BMW used to be good but the latest is the stuff of nightmares.

Great PR coup for Aston as launch partner. The DBX is everywhere in my feeds and the perception that it has outdated tech is now blown into the weeds. Very clever marketing.

I suspect the venn diagram of people buying a new Aston and using an Android device is two distinct circles as with that platform users are usually either cheap or some sort of unhinged zealot, mainly the former. smile

dbs2000

2,745 posts

207 months

Friday 16th May
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I saw this too, I’m very happy for AM to now be leading the way with their in car software. They made a huge leap from the previous generations with infotainment and with this, they now have the best in the world.

Mammasaid

4,788 posts

112 months

Friday 16th May
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Davil said:
I suspect the venn diagram of people buying a new Aston and using an Android device is two distinct circles as with that platform users are usually either cheap or some sort of unhinged zealot, mainly the former. smile
I would presume that, like with Android Automotive, provision is made for Android users.

Oh, and 2007 is calling, they'd like their iSheep attitude back. Android is neither cheap (unless you want it to be, unlike Apple) or just for geeks.

Graze01

1,117 posts

107 months

Friday 16th May
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looks brilliant - Davil wonder if it can be fitted to 2018-23 cars?

Graze

VantageHead

Original Poster:

240 posts

71 months

Friday 16th May
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Just heard from my AML MD that CarPlay Ultra will be available exclusively for dealer install on the 2025 model ‘new new’ Vantage from 17th Oct 2025 with DB12 ‘TBA’. The bulletin from AML didn’t mention if there was a charge applicable for this upgrade.

He did mention that the Apple CarPlay Ultra upgrade was specifically designed for the current range of Astons fitted with the touch-screen interface and in-house developed informatics (not the previous generation based on the old Mercedes- based MBUX system). If you look at the end of the video (14:46 mins) above you’ll hear Marek Reichman (AML Chief Creative Officer) explain how AML worked closely in partnership with Apple to tailor this specifically for the current cars.

Davil

492 posts

41 months

Saturday 17th May
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Graze01 said:
looks brilliant - Davil wonder if it can be fitted to 2018-23 cars?

Graze
No. It needs all the fancy new LCD dashboard stuff.

I’m really happy with my dealer fitted CarPlay in my Roadster. As a bonus I think I prefer where the screen is placed in our model, but that becomes less of an issue with the fancy new dashboard.
I’m also really happy with the factory CarPlay in my VH too smile

The new one looks so good though! Well done Aston.

Davil

492 posts

41 months

Saturday 17th May
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Mammasaid said:
I would presume that, like with Android Automotive, provision is made for Android users.

Oh, and 2007 is calling, they'd like their iSheep attitude back. Android is neither cheap (unless you want it to be, unlike Apple) or just for geeks.
Oh. An unhinged zealot. laugh

Mammasaid

4,788 posts

112 months

Saturday 17th May
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Davil said:
Oh. An unhinged zealot. laugh
Methinks thou doth protest too much! biggrin

Dewi 2

1,656 posts

80 months

Saturday 17th May
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Davil said:
I can’t think of a single manufacturer that produces good software. Mercedes is horrendous.

That is your own opinion.

For clarity, ease of use and accuracy of the voice control (even when fooling around using accents), Mercedes-Benz latest version MBUX system is superb.

embdenb

143 posts

118 months

Saturday 17th May
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The advantage that Apple will have over any and all manufacturers is that their software will always be automatically up to date. No manufacturer software that gives you directions can keep up with a company like Apple, because their ecosystem updates their software automatically.

DMZ

1,760 posts

175 months

Saturday 17th May
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Usually this kind of partnership/OEM arrangement is with manufacturers that don’t have the budget to compete so handing over the user experience to Apple (or Google in many cases) can make sense. For Aston Martin it makes a lot of sense I would have thought as infotainment is surely not a meaningful differentiator.

I personally want proper dials in my car, though. Dials drawn on a screen, not sure I really care who draws them.

LooneyTunes

8,269 posts

173 months

Sunday 18th May
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It’s very much a mixed bag.

I quite like CarPlay due to the ability to run Google maps, music apps, etc but it’s a bit of a PITA in more modern vehicles where it runs on secondary screens and masks options in the car’s own systems can become harder to access.

The consistency of the “look and feel” whilst in CarPlay is good when it comes to transitioning between vehicles but bad because it’s a bit generic. At present you get “the CarPlay look” on your screen. Do people really want that creeping in to the broader instrumentation? Sure it’d be more cohesive, but perhaps less distinctive, until/unless Apple give options for customisation/re-skinning but I’m not really sure that’s Apple’s style when it comes to interfaces.