Storage battery for power to trickle charger?

Storage battery for power to trickle charger?

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Graze01

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1,093 posts

99 months

Wednesday 3rd July
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Has anyone used a storage battery (lithium ion or other) to connect a trickle charger for their Aston when they have a garage but no AC power available?

Graze

bogie

16,614 posts

279 months

Wednesday 3rd July
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Never tried that way, I wonder if the charger would drain the lithium power pack too quickly ?

Have you thought about wiring in a solar solution, Optimate do some kits specifically for trickle charging cars

https://www.optimate.co.uk/solar-off-grid/

Dream355r

43 posts

183 months

Wednesday 3rd July
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CTEK do a stand alone trickle charger for this very reason. There may be other providers …but here is some info ;

https://www.halfords.com/motoring/battery-maintena...

Nigel_O

3,058 posts

226 months

Wednesday 3rd July
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Dream355r said:
CTEK do a stand alone trickle charger for this very reason. There may be other providers …but here is some info ;

https://www.halfords.com/motoring/battery-maintena...
Surely that still needs plugging into a mains outlet - I think OP is after a charger that can be powered by a standalone battery

Dream355r

43 posts

183 months

Wednesday 3rd July
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I may be mistaken but CTEK website features re Free below - I initially thought I needed this for Vantage whilst in remote storage but bought normal one that plugs into wall.

They sell a solar array and designed for use with a battery rather than ac power.

Features (from Ctek)

All-in-one solution to power up flat batteries and keep your vehicle batteries in peak condition.
Replaces jump starters and boosters with Adaptive Boost – the safest way to revive your flat battery.
Connect to a power source and turn the CS FREE into a 5A smart battery charger.
Charge and maintain any 12V lead-acid or lithium vehicle battery through mains power, solar panel or separate service battery.

Video background on YT : https://youtu.be/xumkiLuon9s?si=zoWSl46CnziGoQRf

Ps there are a few on well known selling website for 50% of CTEK price.

Cheers

alscar

5,406 posts

220 months

Wednesday 3rd July
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Nigel_O said:
Surely that still needs plugging into a mains outlet - I think OP is after a charger that can be powered by a standalone battery
No that’s the whole point of it.
You have to in effect recharge the ctek weekly though or so to keep its power up depending on what it’s charging.

Manners79

186 posts

66 months

Thursday 4th July
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When my V8V is in my home garage it lives on a CTEK 5 mains charger so I know and like the CTEK range. If outside for longer periods a solar charger is used. On the v rare occasions neither is possible I put an Ecoflow power station in the boot with a NOCO 1 amp charger. Clearly depends on the capacity of the power station but it worked for several days. That said the combo is more expensive than the CTEK all in one solution listed. I was fortunate enough to have the Ecoflow anyway. The point being the little NOCO 1 is actually a decent little “smart” charger and, in my case, the 1 amp output was sufficient to keep the car “startable” whilst not depleting the power source too quickly.

Shnozz

28,008 posts

278 months

Thursday 4th July
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alscar said:
Nigel_O said:
Surely that still needs plugging into a mains outlet - I think OP is after a charger that can be powered by a standalone battery
No that’s the whole point of it.
You have to in effect recharge the ctek weekly though or so to keep its power up depending on what it’s charging.
I’m on my second ctek free and that’s now needing replacement under warranty. Being a lithium battery sorting returns are a nightmare.

Not impressed so far with them.

Graze01

Original Poster:

1,093 posts

99 months

Thursday 4th July
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Thanks for the replies guys. seems there is no real option other than solar which won't work in this case as it is a basement car park. appreciate the responses

Graze

Shnozz

28,008 posts

278 months

Thursday 4th July
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Graze01 said:
Thanks for the replies guys. seems there is no real option other than solar which won't work in this case as it is a basement car park. appreciate the responses

Graze
I’m in the same boat. Was hoping the free would work as I often have to leave my cars a month or so at a time.

Going to try and get another replacement under warranty.

fizzwheel

198 posts

133 months

Thursday 4th July
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Rather than start a new thread, as its relevant does anybody have any recommendations for a Solar charger ?

DB9VolanteDriver

2,624 posts

183 months

Thursday 4th July
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Graze01 said:
Has anyone used a storage battery (lithium ion or other) to connect a trickle charger for their Aston when they have a garage but no AC power available?

Graze
Why would you do that? Just connect the storage battery to the car’s charging port directly. Inserting the trickle charger in between serves no purpose except to reduce the system capacity since you would lose power to the dc to ac converter to power the CTEK. Occasionally you’ll have to recharge the storage battery.

Dream355r

43 posts

183 months

Friday 5th July
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Interesting. Does using the free with a battery power the CTEK?

Or

Does it not just manage the current flow from donor battery to the car battery ie dc to dc conversion??

Hence only taking energy from the donor battery when required (as it does when connected to ac power) and therefore will charge for longer than just connecting them together?

My CTEK One only delivers the current car needs which can be as much as 2A or as low as 0.1A and I assume that’s what the Free would do.

Also from the video it shows that charging the CTEK from the mains and then attaching to a battery enables you to trickle charge the car for much longer.



Edited by Dream355r on Friday 5th July 15:19

DB9VolanteDriver

2,624 posts

183 months

Friday 5th July
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A second service sized battery will maintain your car’s system voltage at 12v far longer than that CTEK Free unit will simply because of its larger amp-hour capacity. If you buy a service battery, that’s all you need. Buying any other claptrap is a waste of money and will only reduce the time before your system drops below 12v. The service battery trickle charges your car’s battery all by itself without any other device needed.