Vantage AMR wheel Question

Vantage AMR wheel Question

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melhuishjames

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171 posts

280 months

Monday 29th May 2023
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Hello

I have a 2011 V12 Vantage and would like to upgrade to AMR wheels.

I’ve been looking (unsuccessfully) for the 10 spoke LW wheels from the later V12S.

Looking around I’ve seen the thicker spoked 5 spoke AMR wheel from the V8 Vantage and the “mesh” type AMR wheel from the V12 vantage.

I think they are dimensionally all the same diameter and width wise. Does anyone know the weight of each of these, trying to figure the saving from the standard V12 (non s) wheel and in comparison to the non AMR V12 S 10 spoke wheel.

Anyone know the weights for comparison?

(Anyone have a set they want to move on please get in touch)

Cheers

melhuishjames

Original Poster:

171 posts

280 months

Monday 29th May 2023
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To help.

These are the wheels I’m trying to compare the weights/sizes of;








DBA086

90 posts

60 months

Monday 29th May 2023
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I’m in the same boat. It seems easy to find the OE V12V wheels, but challenging to find the V12VS “lightweight” ones.

The black AMR ones don’t really float my boat, but in silver or light grey they’re ok.

Is there anything else that’s OE or OE quality that fits?

Graze01

1,093 posts

99 months

Monday 29th May 2023
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Contact dave Cooling he will be able to source you the wheels you want (in all likelihood) but will probably also know the weights
David Cooling <dncooling@aol.com>
Graze

AdamV12V

5,129 posts

184 months

Monday 29th May 2023
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As far as I know the original V12V wheels and the AMR wheels are about the same weight as each other. The V12VS lightweight wheels are around 1kg each less than both those, and the Zagato wheels possibly slightly less again. All of these wheels are the same size, but of course that makes them larger than the OE V8 wheels.

I do not have any info on how the weights compare to the various V8 wheel weights.

These is a brand new set of AMR wheels on ebay for £6k which is pretty much exactly the price they were when they came out in 2017 so allowing for inflation thats a fair price for new.

Another vote for Dave Cooling - he knows his AM wheels!

Edited by AdamV12V on Monday 29th May 21:48

melhuishjames

Original Poster:

171 posts

280 months

Monday 29th May 2023
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Graze01 said:
Contact dave Cooling he will be able to source you the wheels you want (in all likelihood) but will probably also know the weights
David Cooling <dncooling@aol.com>
Graze
Cheers. Tried that. He doesn’t have sight of any

melhuishjames

Original Poster:

171 posts

280 months

Monday 29th May 2023
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AdamV12V said:
From the info I have gathered over the years my understanding is that the original V12V wheels and the AMR wheels are about the same weight as each other. The V12VS lightweight wheels are around 1kg each less than both those, and the Zagato wheels possibly slightly less again. All of these wheels are the same size, but of course that makes them larger than the OE V8 wheels.

I do not have any info on how the weights compare to the various V8 wheel weights.

These is a brand new set of AMR wheels on ebay for £6k which is pretty much exactly the price they were when they came out in 2017 so allowing for inflation thats a fair price for new.

Another vote for Dave Cooling - he knows his AM wheels!
Thanks for the feedback re weights. I guess the 10 spoke LW wheels remain the most desirable then, given actual weight saving over standard.

Appreciate info.

Calinours

1,328 posts

57 months

Monday 29th May 2023
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Hi OP, I’ve been after a set of standard V12V wheels for a while, I love the look of them. Let me know via this thread or via PM if you are wanting to sell yours when you finally get sorted.

melhuishjames

Original Poster:

171 posts

280 months

Monday 29th May 2023
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Calinours said:
Hi OP, I’ve been after a set of standard V12V wheels for a while, I love the look of them. Let me know via this thread or via PM if you are wanting to sell yours when you finally get sorted.
Will do

quench

527 posts

153 months

Monday 29th May 2023
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Perhaps you are set on retaining factory wheels on your car (although changing the wheel style, even if from the factory, will not preserve the originality of the car, anyway).

In case you aren't, why don't you look at getting a set of custom made, quality forged wheels from the aftermarket? This will give you a greater variety of options, and will enable you to tweak the offset within reason (if you want the wheels to sit out very slightly more, for example). I can recommend BC Forged (I have no relationship with the company other than being a satisfied customer). HRE is another option but they are generally more pricey.

nickv12

1,377 posts

90 months

Tuesday 30th May 2023
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DBA086 said:
The black AMR ones don’t really float my boat, but in silver or light grey they’re ok.
Although officially made available in black and silver, the V12 AMR alloys were never truly available in silver. The set on my car had to be painted by HWM before delivery to the first owner. This tallies with a conversation I had with AM Bristol when I enquired about them in 2018(ish).

I only know of one other VH Vantage with silver AMR alloys. Not a massive problem to paint, and very much worth it!

Thankfully not as much of a pain to clean as everyone imagines (I’ve had so many comments about that!) as the carbon ceramic brakes don’t give off dust.

BTW - the official V12S winter wheel/tyre actually uses the V8 alloy shown above.

SHIFTY

923 posts

243 months

Wednesday 31st May 2023
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There was a Cosmopolitan yellow V12AMR Vantage with silver wheels down at the recent simply aston martin event.

Now't wrong with black AMR wheels.


melhuishjames

Original Poster:

171 posts

280 months

Wednesday 31st May 2023
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SHIFTY said:
There was a Cosmopolitan yellow V12AMR Vantage with silver wheels down at the recent simply aston martin event.

Now't wrong with black AMR wheels.

Looking great! My car is carbon black, I think I’d go for AMR’s in silver (or black) see if I can find a set, starting to give up on finding the 10 spokes. Just need a realistic price. A couple of sets on ebay but crazy money.

Thanks for feedback all..

AMV12V

11 posts

88 months

Wednesday 31st May 2023
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I've had a set of lightweight graphite wheels on order since Jan 2022 not sure whats happening but hopefully one day I'll get some soon maybe an idea if people want other lightweights then more on order the more avaliable they will become.

melhuishjames

Original Poster:

171 posts

280 months

Wednesday 31st May 2023
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AMV12V said:
I've had a set of lightweight graphite wheels on order since Jan 2022 not sure whats happening but hopefully one day I'll get some soon maybe an idea if people want other lightweights then more on order the more avaliable they will become.
Sorry just to understand you’ve ordered these new from AM? Can I ask price/where you ordered from if that’s ok please?


Cheers James

AdamV12V

5,129 posts

184 months

Wednesday 31st May 2023
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melhuishjames said:
AMV12V said:
I've had a set of lightweight graphite wheels on order since Jan 2022 not sure whats happening but hopefully one day I'll get some soon maybe an idea if people want other lightweights then more on order the more avaliable they will become.
Sorry just to understand you’ve ordered these new from AM? Can I ask price/where you ordered from if that’s ok please?


Cheers James
You can get the official AM prices for many parts including the lightweight wheels on HWM's website. Prices include VAT but do NOT include any discount you may of course be able to negotiate if you call them!

https://www.astonmartinparts.net/merchandise/acces...

https://www.astonmartinparts.net/merchandise/acces...

https://www.astonmartinparts.net/merchandise/amr/v...

These prices are about normal for a full set of OEM wheels direct from AM. In my experience you should be able to get up to 30% off most parts if you have a good relationship with your AM dealer, maybe more for something thats old and obselete - however stock then can become a blocker!

DBA086

90 posts

60 months

Wednesday 31st May 2023
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nickv12 said:
DBA086 said:
The black AMR ones don’t really float my boat, but in silver or light grey they’re ok.
Although officially made available in black and silver, the V12 AMR alloys were never truly available in silver. The set on my car had to be painted by HWM before delivery to the first owner. This tallies with a conversation I had with AM Bristol when I enquired about them in 2018(ish).

I only know of one other VH Vantage with silver AMR alloys. Not a massive problem to paint, and very much worth it!

Thankfully not as much of a pain to clean as everyone imagines (I’ve had so many comments about that!) as the carbon ceramic brakes don’t give off dust.

BTW - the official V12S winter wheel/tyre actually uses the V8 alloy shown above.
Ok, good to know.

There’s a set of AMR 19s on eBay, but it’s a big commitment as it’s £6k (and they’re black). I think I prefer the “lightweight” 19s, so will hold out for those.

SHIFTY said:
There was a Cosmopolitan yellow V12AMR Vantage with silver wheels down at the recent simply aston martin event.

Now't wrong with black AMR wheels.
Black wheels seem to come at me in waves - I’ve just crested my last one, so I suspect it will be a few years before I’m back on them. Unfortunately my car is black, with silver strakes and window trim, so it’s crying out for silver wheels…


Edited by DBA086 on Wednesday 31st May 16:13

GreasyHands

153 posts

38 months

Saturday 3rd June 2023
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AdamV12V said:
https://www.astonmartinparts.net/merchandise/amr/v...

These prices are about normal for a full set of OEM wheels direct from AM. In my experience you should be able to get up to 30% off most parts if you have a good relationship with your AM dealer, maybe more for something thats old and obselete - however stock then can become a blocker!
When I bought my Vantage in the US, the price quoted to me for a set of AMR wheels was about $25,000USD from the dealer. ( Well, that included installation,blah ) That price you listed is closer to a per wheel price rather than a set of four. Are you sure that is for four wheels?

AdamV12V

5,129 posts

184 months

Saturday 3rd June 2023
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GreasyHands said:
When I bought my Vantage in the US, the price quoted to me for a set of AMR wheels was about $25,000USD from the dealer. ( Well, that included installation,blah ) That price you listed is closer to a per wheel price rather than a set of four. Are you sure that is for four wheels?
Yes i am 100% sure that price is for 4 wheels. They are seemingly out of stock however.

Not sure where there price you were quoted came from, it seems more like the price for the AMR “full body pack”, which was the option that included both the AMR Aerokit and a full set of 4 AMR wheels. Either that or they saw you coming… wink

nickv12

1,377 posts

90 months

Saturday 3rd June 2023
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SHIFTY said:
There was a Cosmopolitan yellow V12AMR Vantage with silver wheels down at the recent simply aston martin event.
This one…


https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...