RE: Aston's 911-killer price confirmed
Thursday 23rd June 2005
Yours for £79,995Sources inside Aston Martin appear to have confirmed PistonHeads' guesstimate of the upcoming V8 Vantage's price. It will be £79,995, according to a story in Autocar.
Aston's 911-killer price confirmed
V8 Vantage priced at £20k+ more than a 911
Yours for £79,995
That's over £20,000 more than Porsche's entry-level 997, the Carrera Coupe, and £7,765 more even than the higher specced 911 Carrera S Cabriolet's £72,230 price tag.
Apparently, early buyers must pay an additional £1,695 for the compulsory options of leather and 19-inch alloys; the whole book full of options will add some £10,000.
Discussion
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One thing that is impressive for an Aston is the 1570kg weight..
That is 20kg less than a 996 TT..
Car should handle quite nicely, potentially
www.astonmartin.com/thecars/v8vantage/dimensions
That is 20kg less than a 996 TT..
Car should handle quite nicely, potentially
www.astonmartin.com/thecars/v8vantage/dimensions
I'd have the AMV8 over the DB9 manual.
In my eyes, its the best looking car designed since my RX7 FD. Its perfect from all angles, and is much more squat and purposeful than the DB9, which i think is a bit too soft and long.
The AMV8 is also rumoured to be a damn sight better than the 997S, plus it looks better, the engine's in the right place, and ITS AN ASTON MARTIN, not another bloody Porsche.....
In my eyes, its the best looking car designed since my RX7 FD. Its perfect from all angles, and is much more squat and purposeful than the DB9, which i think is a bit too soft and long.
The AMV8 is also rumoured to be a damn sight better than the 997S, plus it looks better, the engine's in the right place, and ITS AN ASTON MARTIN, not another bloody Porsche.....
I can't see how Aston can say it's a 911 killer.... It's slower than even the basic 911 and considerably more expensive... I enquired about performance options through the "Works Service". I was told "There's no works service available for this car" and no performance mods.....
The RangeRover Storm and the Jag XKR manage to get more power out of the same unit than the anaemic Aston version of the Jag/Ford V8.
Sorry..... over weight, over priced, under speck!
For the £90k+ you need to get a decent one….. almost anything else looks better…
Hhhmmmmm maybe I should set-up manufacturing performance mods.
Aston had a chance to be king of the hill by producing a decent sports car instead of it’s traditionally larger GT’s and it seems they got it all wrong.
What the article should say is:
AM V8 Vs Porsche Turbo (Both 90K OTR)…….Aston Loose again.....and again......and again!
I don’t own either, but have considered both…..it’s a shame to see Aston this way.
Don't get me wrong, I love Aston....just expect more from them.
>> Edited by cerealsurfer on Thursday 23 June 16:05
The RangeRover Storm and the Jag XKR manage to get more power out of the same unit than the anaemic Aston version of the Jag/Ford V8.
Sorry..... over weight, over priced, under speck!
For the £90k+ you need to get a decent one….. almost anything else looks better…
Hhhmmmmm maybe I should set-up manufacturing performance mods.
Aston had a chance to be king of the hill by producing a decent sports car instead of it’s traditionally larger GT’s and it seems they got it all wrong.
What the article should say is:
AM V8 Vs Porsche Turbo (Both 90K OTR)…….Aston Loose again.....and again......and again!
I don’t own either, but have considered both…..it’s a shame to see Aston this way.
Don't get me wrong, I love Aston....just expect more from them.
>> Edited by cerealsurfer on Thursday 23 June 16:05
cerealsurfer said:
I can't see how Aston can say it's a 911 killer.... It's slower than even the basic 911 and considerably more expensive... I enquired about performance options through the "Works Service". I was told "There's no works service available for this car" and no performance mods.....
The RangeRover Storm and the Jag XKR manage to get more power out of the same unit than the anaemic Aston version of the Jag/Ford V8.
Sorry..... over weight, over priced, under speck!
For the £90k+ you need to get a decent one….. almost anything else looks better…
Hhhmmmmm maybe I should set-up manufacturing performance mods.
Aston had a chance to be king of the hill by producing a decent sports car instead of it’s traditionally larger GT’s and it seems they got it all wrong.
What the article should say is:
AM V8 Vs Porsche Turbo (Both 90K OTR)…….Aston Loose again.....and again......and again!
I don’t own either, but have considered both…..it’s a shame to see Aston this way.
Don't get me wrong, I love Aston....just expect more from them.
>> Edited by cerealsurfer on Thursday 23 June 16:05
Erm, yeeees, it is not the same engine as in the xkr, they stared with the non supercharged version of the jag engine which puts out much less power the rebuilt it from the ground up, even the internal dimensions are different. A supercharged version of this engine would put our far more power than the the supercharged xkr. Also, if all reprts are to believed this car is considerably superior to the 997 in key areas of handling and response, due to the engine being in the right place to start off. The 911 is in serious threat form this car which will have more powerfull/ lightweight versions down the line. The extra money is justifiable because this car will be a supreme luxury vehicle as well as a sports car, the gulf in quality between this and a 911 is huge. It is also going to me much more exclusive than a 911 and looks miles better. This is after all an aston martin, prized for qulaity, exclusivity, design and prescence. It will never be a the bland two a penny fat arsed cockney builder made made good piece of german ordinaryness that the 911 is.
cathalm said:
cerealsurfer said:
I can't see how Aston can say it's a 911 killer.... It's slower than even the basic 911 and considerably more expensive... I enquired about performance options through the "Works Service". I was told "There's no works service available for this car" and no performance mods.....
The RangeRover Storm and the Jag XKR manage to get more power out of the same unit than the anaemic Aston version of the Jag/Ford V8.
Sorry..... over weight, over priced, under speck!
For the £90k+ you need to get a decent one….. almost anything else looks better…
Hhhmmmmm maybe I should set-up manufacturing performance mods.
Aston had a chance to be king of the hill by producing a decent sports car instead of it’s traditionally larger GT’s and it seems they got it all wrong.
What the article should say is:
AM V8 Vs Porsche Turbo (Both 90K OTR)…….Aston Loose again.....and again......and again!
I don’t own either, but have considered both…..it’s a shame to see Aston this way.
Don't get me wrong, I love Aston....just expect more from them.
>> Edited by cerealsurfer on Thursday 23 June 16:05
Erm, yeeees, it is not the same engine as in the xkr, they stared with the non supercharged version of the jag engine which puts out much less power the rebuilt it from the ground up, even the internal dimensions are different. A supercharged version of this engine would put our far more power than the the supercharged xkr. Also, if all reprts are to believed this car is considerably superior to the 997 in key areas of handling and response, due to the engine being in the right place to start off. The 911 is in serious threat form this car which will have more powerfull/ lightweight versions down the line. The extra money is justifiable because this car will be a supreme luxury vehicle as well as a sports car, the gulf in quality between this and a 911 is huge. It is also going to me much more exclusive than a 911 and looks miles better. This is after all an aston martin, prized for qulaity, exclusivity, design and prescence. It will never be a the bland two a penny fat arsed cockney builder made made good piece of german ordinaryness that the 911 is.
So what your saying is Aston took the same engine and in order to get performance, unlike both Jag and LR they decided to keep it Normally Aspirated. It’s still the same basic engine and they still didn’t get as much power as the other two.
So still a step down in power….doh.
If a Supercharged version of this engine would be more powerful why not release this version rather than this wimpy, wheezy motor. Still Astons choice to come second best!
As for engine location, the 911 935KKK had the engine in the back and it’s still faster than all of the previously mentioned cars and has a very successful race pedigree. Come to think of it, so do most 911’s.
The extra money (20K+) for Astons ego is not worth it.. OK this is MY personal opinion.
I’m not just comparing to 911…..the problem is that almost ANY sports car ads up better than this.
Aston Martin cars are prized for exclusivity and looks.
Oh and also…
Lousy reliability…. raiding the ford parts bin….dodgy gearboxes….roofs that come off…. And depreciation that could sink a battleship.
cathalm said:
The 911 is in serious threat form this car which will have more powerfull/ lightweight versions down the line
Vapourware/Marketing speak…. The next version is always better. Why do you think the latest version of DAZ always get cloths whiter.
So, at some time in the future a real 911 killer will exist…maybe. Obviously as long as the 911 does not change and the price is commensurate with product and performance….Which only inevitably means that this car available now is not a 911 killer itself.
Sorry this only supports what I was originally saying.
>> Edited by cerealsurfer on Thursday 23 June 19:30
los angeles said:
Only a badge snob would think paying 20k more for his car worth the money
mmm. by that reasoning; who buys a new car over a year old? who buys a murcialago over a 430? who buys a 360 over a gt3? who buys a 996c2 over an m3 csl? who buys an m3csl over an evofq400? who buys the evo over an old modded wrx?
the amv8 looks STUNNING in the flesh. right up until someone parks a black vanquish next to it anyway!
besides you are assuming the basic 997 is better... evo magazine reconed it was v close but gave round 1 to the aston on handling... anyway 911's are common as muck in these parts
mungo said:
I don't think you can compare an Aston with a 911 - Two very different cars with their own markets
>> Edited by mungo on Thursday 23 June 19:48
As far as I was aware Aston were/are aiming the V8 exactly at the 911 market... this alone would make them directly comparable cars.
cerealsurfer said:
I don't think you can compare an Aston with a 911 - Two very different cars with their own markets
>> Edited by mungo on Thursday 23 June 19:48
As far as I was aware Aston were/are aiming the V8 exactly at the 911 market... this alone would make them directly comparable cars.
agreed and as far as i can see the am comes out rather well. if exclusivity and drop dead gorgeous looks are worth 20k is up to the buyer. personally i think the 911 is overweight and underpowered for 60k, i guess there's a very healthy profit margin in there...
Just a note on exclusivity...
Porsche make about 2000 911's per year and generally sell them all..
A spokesman from Aston said they intend to build 1500 V8's per year...
So on exclusivity they are pretty much the same... if all goes well there will be lots of both.
Ironically the only way the V8 may end up noticeably more exclusive is if it doesn't sell well.
Anyway I'm off..... when you see Henrik, I'll have a Yellow one.....OOPSSS. You can't have that color... already asked Aston for one...
>> Edited by cerealsurfer on Thursday 23 June 20:33
Porsche make about 2000 911's per year and generally sell them all..
A spokesman from Aston said they intend to build 1500 V8's per year...
So on exclusivity they are pretty much the same... if all goes well there will be lots of both.
Ironically the only way the V8 may end up noticeably more exclusive is if it doesn't sell well.
Anyway I'm off..... when you see Henrik, I'll have a Yellow one.....OOPSSS. You can't have that color... already asked Aston for one...
>> Edited by cerealsurfer on Thursday 23 June 20:33
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