RE: Vantage Points

Thursday 6th January 2005

Vantage Points

Andrew Noakes looks at the various Aston Martin Vantages down the years


While everyone waits for the new 'small' Aston Martin due sometime in 2005, traditionalists are getting more and more uneasy. Not because of the car itself – it promises to be a cracker – but because of the name.

The concept car, unveiled in January 2003, was known as AMV8 Vantage and Aston Martin said that the production version to follow would also use the name Vantage as ‘a specific model name rather than denoting a high performance version’. But this won’t be the first time the Vantage moniker has been applied to one of Aston’s slower cars.

The name first appeared in 1950, when a high-performance engine option was made available for the DB2, costing an extra £128 on top of the £1,915 list price. It had always been Aston practice to prove prototypes in racing, and the new engine spec was directly derived from racing DB2s. The LB6 engine, designed at Lagonda under the direction of W.O. Bentley, was given a higher compression ratio and larger SU carburettors, and developed 125bhp.

The DB2/4 which followed in 1953 was slightly heavier and its taller roofline resulted in greater frontal area, so the Vantage-spec engine was fitted as standard to avoid any loss of performance. When the DB Mark III arrived in 1957 it had a heavily-redesigned engine, which was available in several different specifications – but the higher-spec engines, with up to 214bhp were known as ‘Special Series’ engines rather ‘Vantages’.

The Vantage name did not reappear until 1962, by which time production of the DB4 was well established and the quicker, shorter-wheelbase DB4GT had already hit the race tracks. The DB4 Vantage combined a ‘Special Series’ version of the DB4’s 3670cc engine with the cowled-in headlamps of the DB4GT, but because Astons were built to order you could also choose to have a Special Series engine in the standard DB4 body (with upright headlamps). A select few customers even had a DB4 Vantage with a DB4GT twin-ignition engine, known as a DB4 Vantage GT.

There was little visual difference between a late DB4 Vantage and the DB5 of 1963 – so little, in fact, that one of the two DB5s used in the James Bond film Goldfinger had actually started life as a DB4 Vantage. The biggest difference was under the skin, where the DB5 hid a big-bore 3995cc engine. Power was quoted at 282bhp, and by the end of 1964 there was a triple-Webered Vantage engine with a claimed 314bhp. Essentially the same engines went into the DB6 in 1965, the ultimate ‘C-stage’ tune supposedly delivering 324bhp – closer to 275bhp in reality.

The new Aston V8 engine was supposed to power the next Aston Martin, the DBS, but when the V8 was delayed the old ‘six’ was installed instead, with the Vantage spec as a no-cost option. Even when the DBS V8 came on stream in 1970 the six-cylinder car remained in production. When David Brown sold Aston Martin in 1972 the new owners, Midlands property developers Company Developments, stripped the DBS Vantage and DBS V8 of their ‘DBS’ badges – simply calling them the Aston Martin V8 and Aston Martin Vantage. Just 70 of those six-cylinder Vantages were built.

Sales of all Astons were slow, and the oil crisis of 1974 didn’t help. Aston Martin went into receivership, and very nearly disappeared entirely. But a consortium of businessmen saved it and by the late 1970s they had launched a high-tech Lagonda, a V8 Volante convertible – and a new V8 Vantage.

Development versions of the V8 engine had delivered a proven 460bhp back in the 1960s, but it was the Lagonda project which was responsible for a higher-performance V8 being offered in 1977. A power-sapping low-profile airbox had to be fitted to get the V8 under the Lagonda’s low nose, and big valve heads were developed to restore the lost output. Those big-valve heads, together with hotter cams and bigger carbs, went into the V8 Vantage spec, together producing something in the region of 380bhp. The Vantage was also given a deep front air dam and a tail spoiler, which were developed alongside the aerodynamic package for Robin Hamilton’s V8 Le Mans car of 1977.

All that made the V8 Vantage just about the fastest production car on the planet. 0-60mph acceleration times of 5.2 seconds were recorded, quicker than a Porsche 911 Turbo or a Lamborghini Countach, and the Aston would nudge 170mph if you could find a road long enough.

Even quicker Vantages followed. In 1984 Aston Martin and Zagato resumed a partnership which had created the iconic DB4GT Zagato in 1960, and the result was the 432bhp Vantage Zagato (fiurth from bottom). It was capable of almost 186mph, and with 0-60mph acceleration times under 5.0 seconds. Volante versions of both the Vantage and the Vantage Zagato then appeared, the former fitted with dubious-looking wheel arch extensions. Prince Charles ordered his with the Vantage engine but the standard body, and soon replicas were being built to ‘Prince of Wales spec’.

By then Aston Martin had entered a new era, as part of Ford’s growing global empire. A new four-valve V8 went into the Virage of 1988, and in 1992 it was followed up by a twin-supercharged Vantage (second from bottom) developing upwards of 550bhp and providing Zagato-style pace. Shy and retiring motoring scribe Jeremy Clarkson called it ‘the most wonderful car in the world.’ Even more wonderful was the Le Mans Vantage of 1999, released to commemorate Aston’s Le Mans win 40 years earlier, and available with either the standard 550bhp engine or a 600bhp upgrade prepared by Aston’s Works Service department.

But it was almost the end of the V8 Aston. Project Vantage (bottom), unveiled in January 1998, and would go on to became the V12 Vanquish. DB7 production was in full swing and a Vantage version would arrive in 1999 – the first car to use Aston’s V12 engine, then developing 420bhp. Since then, high-performance Astons have avoided the Vantage name: the 435bhp DB7 was a GT, the 520bhp Vanquish is an S, and presumably at some point there will be a 480-ish bhp DB9 GT.

But a new Vantage (top picture) is coming, and it promises to be worth the wait.

Links
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iansull

Original Poster:

1,940 posts

253 months

Thursday 6th January 2005
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mmmm....Vantage 600.

One rocketed past me in le mans this year.
incredible noise
incredible presence
fantastic car!!

Twin Turbo

5,544 posts

273 months

Thursday 6th January 2005
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That'll be a Vantage 600 "Le Mans" then

I reckon the new "cheap" Aston should have used a different name. I like Gauntlett, as a nod to Aston's chairman of a few years ago.

Still, whatever it's called I want one.

williamp

19,562 posts

280 months

Thursday 6th January 2005
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Well, its never easy to write the history of Aston Martin, so well done for the effort, even if it is inaccurate (the most obvious mistake being a V8 Vantage labelled as a Virage), but there arer plenty of others

If you want a better history, have a look at www.astonmartins.com

Will

v8thunder

27,646 posts

265 months

Thursday 6th January 2005
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All the Aston Martin names are pretty confusing at the moment, although IMO the reason why we now have the DB9 is because Aston Martin realised a little too late that perhaps the DB7 Vantage should have been called the DB8.

I see the series like the original DB4, which started out as a single model and sprouted several variants, as did the original DB7 (check out the DB4 and DB7 pages on www.astonmartins.com to see what I mean), then the DB5 was pretty much rationalised into one model (like the DB7 Vantage, hence why it should've been the DB8), then finally we have a smoother, more modern rebody on similar lines, the DB9, like the DB6. Re-introducing the AMV8 (they should've left the name at that - what are they going to call the faster ones, the AMV8 Vantage Vantage?) is remeniscent of the release of the DBS as the new 'entry level' Aston Martin.

The only Aston that doesn't fit into the lineup properly in my eyes is the Vanquish. Technically it should recall the DBR1 and Lagonda V12 racers of the '50s and '60s, but it doesn't, and it looks completely pointless alongside the DB9. Aston Martins should have a sense of understatement and subtlety, and the Vanquish just...doesn't.

Then again, It seems to mark out the footballers among Aston's logbooks, as they all seem to have Vanquishes round here. Maybe they just wander into the dealership, find the most expensive thing in there and say, Little Britain Andy-style, 'I want that one'.

Twin Turbo

5,544 posts

273 months

Thursday 6th January 2005
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Oi, that's part of my dream garage

The toys:

AMV8 Vantage (and or DB9)
"Proper" V8 Vantage (PoW although without sideskirts and wide arches)
Ferrari Daytona

Sensible everyday cars:

Range Rover Sport (Supercharged 'natch)
Mini Cooper (with the Works)

And I've just done an extra Lucky Dip for Saturday

arcbeer

485 posts

270 months

Thursday 6th January 2005
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There's a good Aston drag race in Clarksons "Hot Metal" vid.

Bodo

12,421 posts

273 months

Thursday 6th January 2005
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hubba hubba

Road_Terrorist

5,591 posts

249 months

Friday 7th January 2005
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My favourite Vantage, pure aggressive muscle car looks and V8 just like the best of Detroit, but with class they can never have.

v8thunder

27,646 posts

265 months

Friday 7th January 2005
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In the pub last night, just idly gazing out of the window when I heard a thunderous noise just out of my line of sight. The lights outside changed to green and there it was:

V8 Vantage Zagato

My mates all thought it was just a tacky '80s coupe with big-bore exhausts. They just don't undertand do they?

Then again, it was in a dreadful '80s shade of white, but still

williamp

19,562 posts

280 months

Friday 7th January 2005
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Road_Terrorist said:


My favourite Vantage, pure aggressive muscle car looks and V8 just like the best of Detroit, but with class they can never have.


Great picture (aston anorak on). AMOC Brands event on May bank holiday, I believe??

Shame about the white wall tyres, but thats often the only tyre which fits these days: from a Rolls Royce. Most people fit them inside out so the white walls are on the "inside" and don't show

FestivAli

1,102 posts

245 months

Saturday 8th January 2005
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That Zagato car looks hideous, I don't care if it's an Aston underneath. C'est Disguste.

hoganscrogan

725 posts

291 months

Saturday 8th January 2005
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williamp said:


Great picture (aston anorak on). AMOC Brands event on May bank holiday, I believe??

Shame about the white wall tyres, but thats often the only tyre which fits these days: from a Rolls Royce. Most people fit them inside out so the white walls are on the "inside" and don't show



Look closer. That's the edge of the rims not a white wall tyre!!!

dinkel

27,177 posts

265 months

Sunday 9th January 2005
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That 70s Tadek Marek V8 is one of my favourite lumps ever. Wasn't it developed from the T70 v8 . . .

Whatever, dreamgarage stuff, and they are not so expensive to get these days . . . Must . . . get . . . some . . . proper . . . money . . . somewhere.

jesprit

149 posts

252 months

Monday 10th January 2005
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PWellsie said:

According to Aston the DB9 was so called as to ensure that the distinction between the beautiful but slightly naff XJS-based DB7.......


I put it down to it sounding like a rude act when put in number plate or text language:

AstDB8

Apologies in advance if this causes anybody any upset

cerbman

565 posts

285 months

Wednesday 12th January 2005
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arcbeer said:
There's a good Aston drag race in Clarksons "Hot Metal" vid.
I think it was fixed. If you look you'll see the later V8 Vantage came last, it should've won.

philbob

49 posts

238 months

Tuesday 18th January 2005
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I seem to remember the aston v8 vantage le mans having a 0-60 time of 3.2 seconds, and along with that source of information the comments on the car were, "expect a christmas card from your tyre dealer" the thing weighed alot, almost two tonnes I think

Twin Turbo

5,544 posts

273 months

Tuesday 18th January 2005
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Hmmm, seems a bit optimistic.....I'd be surprised if it got below 5 secs to 60.

Still a stunning car though

ed.

2,174 posts

245 months

Monday 24th January 2005
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Tiff reckoned it was 3.9secs 0-60 for the V600

dinkel

27,177 posts

265 months

Monday 24th January 2005
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jacobyte

4,746 posts

249 months

Tuesday 25th January 2005
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FestivAli said:
That Zagato car looks hideous, I don't care if it's an Aston underneath. C'est Disguste.

Not this Zagato though: