Discount Rapide

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runner911

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603 posts

249 months

Wednesday 15th February 2012
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michael gould

5,692 posts

247 months

Wednesday 15th February 2012
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going to do wonders for the resale value of Astons

mikey k

13,014 posts

222 months

Wednesday 15th February 2012
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Nah

He's comparing list price with a winter car market for a low demand model.
The UK doesn't want 4 door supper cars (BMW, Porsche, Maser & Merc's aren't flying out the show rooms either)
Now go to the Far East and it is completely the opposite!
They all want them.
That's were AM is making the money on Rapide's.

Neil1300R

5,498 posts

184 months

Wednesday 15th February 2012
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Available at dealers, at that price, on the forecourt, as ex demo.

jonby

5,358 posts

163 months

Wednesday 15th February 2012
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Its not really news

For more than 2 yrs now, most Astons have been available as un-registered new cars with decent spec at 15-20%+ off list. New, low miles & demo models then follow suit accrodingly, unless it's a car you want to spec up from scratch yourself and even then, discounts can be had, they are just smaller and less widely available

The AM price list is effectively meaningless. But as other cars in a similar arena such as Ferrari & Lambo have nil discount avilable & waiting lists, there is a tendancy to assume AM are in the same boat.

Providing people can get their head around the fact the published new list prices are meaningless and AM pricing works more like a mainstream car manufacturer than a high end sports one, the AM price/depreciation pattern is not a million miles away from most other cars and easy to understand

Murph7355

38,758 posts

262 months

Wednesday 15th February 2012
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jonby said:
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Providing people can get their head around the fact the published new list prices are meaningless and AM pricing works more like a mainstream car manufacturer than a high end sports one, the AM price/depreciation pattern is not a million miles away from most other cars and easy to understand
Which is great if you believe Aston are another BMW, Audi, Porsche etc.

It's a shame they aren't more than that though...

steveatesh

5,000 posts

170 months

Thursday 16th February 2012
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Murph7355 said:
jonby said:
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Providing people can get their head around the fact the published new list prices are meaningless and AM pricing works more like a mainstream car manufacturer than a high end sports one, the AM price/depreciation pattern is not a million miles away from most other cars and easy to understand
Which is great if you believe Aston are another BMW, Audi, Porsche etc.

It's a shame they aren't more than that though...
So is this down to AM making too many cars - supply and demand not being matched - or something to do with the cars themselves ( or potential buyers perception of the cars).

It is supposed to be one of the most desirable brands on the planet - how have AM got into the position where they have to heavily discount cars? Or is that just in the West where the economy is not so good at the moment?

Neil1300R

5,498 posts

184 months

Thursday 16th February 2012
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steveatesh said:
So is this down to AM making too many cars - supply and demand not being matched - or something to do with the cars themselves ( or potential buyers perception of the cars).

It is supposed to be one of the most desirable brands on the planet - how have AM got into the position where they have to heavily discount cars? Or is that just in the West where the economy is not so good at the moment?
Sales up 14.5% on the same period last year, so it could just be a UK thing at this time of year. Had an email this week from one of the dealers offering brand new V8VR at under £80, choice of colours and transmission available, so its not just Rapide's.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard-business/ar...



Murph7355

38,758 posts

262 months

Thursday 16th February 2012
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steveatesh said:
So is this down to AM making too many cars - supply and demand not being matched - or something to do with the cars themselves ( or potential buyers perception of the cars).

It is supposed to be one of the most desirable brands on the planet - how have AM got into the position where they have to heavily discount cars? Or is that just in the West where the economy is not so good at the moment?
It quite simply must be supply and demand.

I think Aston evidently predicated certain models on certain sales volumes. And that those volumes were unrealistic.

DB9 Ian P

2,749 posts

161 months

Thursday 16th February 2012
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Isn't this something to do with the fact that production of the Rapide was outsourced at a time they thought they were going to have capacity problems at Gaydon.

This decision was made at a time when sales were booming and the contract presumably committed them to certain build numbers. I believe that contract has now been terminated so we will undoubtedly see supply and demand falling back into line.

BUT if your are in the market for a four door Aston then it represents fantastic value. I guess the question is how Aston, in the current economic environment, will be how to move the Rapide away from this price??

Webber3

1,228 posts

225 months

Thursday 16th February 2012
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£120k is probably closer to what it was worth anyway, so more of a correction than anything else.

Shmee

7,565 posts

219 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2012
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So given the new discounts, out of curiosity what would be a reasonable offer on a car like this? http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2011...

1 year old, 5,000 miles, decent all around and asking £100k.

brakedwell

1,229 posts

205 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2012
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Shmee said:
So given the new discounts, out of curiosity what would be a reasonable offer on a car like this? http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2011...

1 year old, 5,000 miles, decent all around and asking £100k.
£97887 idea

Shmee

7,565 posts

219 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2012
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brakedwell said:
£97887 idea
Nicely precise! biggrin