Painting V12V Bonnet Vents
Discussion
KarlFranz said:
I've read several times on the forum people stating that the louvres can't be painted by AM because they can't get them to their usual high paint standards. I call shenanigans. Does anyone have a valid explanation as to why this would be so?
I suspect it's because the final lacquer coat on the c/f will not bond to well to paint.My V12V is at works service - I'll ask them on your behalf.
JohnG1 said:
I suspect it's because the final lacquer coat on the c/f will not bond to well to paint.
Why would that be John ?The final lacquer coat on any substrate only has to bond with the previous coat - in this case 6 layers of paint.
It is the initial coat wherein the problem may lie on the bonding front. Perhaps they cannot use that electrometer thingymajig on CF which makes the paint particles attract to the substrate???
Jockman said:
Why would that be John ?
The final lacquer coat on any substrate only has to bond with the previous coat - in this case 6 layers of paint.
It is the initial coat wherein the problem may lie on the bonding front. Perhaps they cannot use that electrometer thingymajig on CF which makes the paint particles attract to the substrate???
No, not what I meant. The carbon fibre has a lacquer coat as the final layer.The final lacquer coat on any substrate only has to bond with the previous coat - in this case 6 layers of paint.
It is the initial coat wherein the problem may lie on the bonding front. Perhaps they cannot use that electrometer thingymajig on CF which makes the paint particles attract to the substrate???
I saw a tv show about Lamborghini and they had to manually sand down the carbon fibre before painting - to remove the lacquer. I imagine that it'd hard to sand down the small pieces of the individual slots to get a nice finish.
I will speak with the chap at WS and ask him.
Ive done a few repairs on the "carbon" bumper inserts and dont see any reason as to why you would not get an excellent finish repainting. Im unsure if its a gel coat or a lacquer finish but once keyed up will give a suitable base for either an etch or a suitable primer.
More to the point, AM are probably more concerned that the colour match would be the thing that notices as its nigh on impossible to get an exact match.
More to the point, AM are probably more concerned that the colour match would be the thing that notices as its nigh on impossible to get an exact match.
Neil1300R said:
At least one owner on here has had it done- "IwantanewV12v" if I remember his id correctly. Theres photos of it in the Aston photos thread.
There is one for sale too - http://pistonheads.com/sales/2994075.htmHuge improvement imo.
George H said:
You drive an old mans car George, you're not down with the kidz who are loving on the exposed carbon fibre. Or something like that!Steve jm said:
I've spoken to Justin at Chiltern Aston who said that as long as the c/f lacquer/gel coat is scotched or flatted correctly then 2K primer will stick to it not problem!
Agreed. If prepped properly then it certainly is do-able. One would assume the AM paints are sufficiently high grade.There are hand-held machines that can cater for the profiling intricacies.
Would fit in well with the hand-built ethos and image.
If I upgrade to the V12V instead of the DBS I shall be asking them to paint my louvres.
Black.
JohnG1 said:
If it was walnut like in an old school Jaguar XJ6 (XJ40 generation or older) then I love it too. But I don't think recent Aston Martin wood dasboard inserts look great.
I think they look nicer than piano black personally. I do quite like the silver dash inserts in the V8VS - like the one in Mikey K's. But wood is my favourite.I think it depends on the colour of the car and interior, I don't think it would suit cars like that Montana orange V12V.
George H said:
I think they look nicer than piano black personally. I do quite like the silver dash inserts in the V8VS - like the one in Mikey K's. But wood is my favourite.
I think it depends on the colour of the car and interior, I don't think it would suit cars like that Montana orange V12V.
I had piano black in my V8 - pretty, but not exciting. V12 has a dull metal looking finish (from what I can remember)...I think it depends on the colour of the car and interior, I don't think it would suit cars like that Montana orange V12V.
I have thought about replacing with carbon fibre but the prices are just bonkers - typically POA and I always think, if you have to ask, you cannot afford it...
George H said:
I think they look nicer than piano black personally. I do quite like the silver dash inserts in the V8VS - like the one in Mikey K's. But wood is my favourite.
I think it depends on the colour of the car and interior, I don't think it would suit cars like that Montana orange V12V.
Agreed Georgeous, Burr Walnut would look awful on Montana Orange.I think it depends on the colour of the car and interior, I don't think it would suit cars like that Montana orange V12V.
Rememeber that The Piano Black console is in fact painted with walnut as the substrate
Jockman said:
Rememeber that The Piano Black console is in fact painted with walnut as the substrate
I didn't know that. I really like the Mahogany inserts too, looks fantastic on this DBS imo - http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C221796#I remember as a kid that cheap TVs came with nasty wood effect boxes. Expensive TVs like B&O had real wood. All an artefact of the way that radios were made in wood way back in the 1920s or whenever.
I think putting mahogany or burr walnut in a car made from aluminium with CCM brakes, carbon fibre body panels and so on is just bonkers...
I think putting mahogany or burr walnut in a car made from aluminium with CCM brakes, carbon fibre body panels and so on is just bonkers...
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