Running in new V8V

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mikey k

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13,014 posts

222 months

Tuesday 30th August 2011
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So the S is slowly making its way down the line wink
I had a quick check in the manual for the running on procedure.
Not a lot there!
Any suggestions?

peterr96

2,226 posts

181 months

Tuesday 30th August 2011
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mikey k said:
So the S is slowly making its way down the line wink
I had a quick check in the manual for the running on procedure.
Not a lot there!
Any suggestions?
Pop it round. I'll run it in for you.

KarlFranz

2,008 posts

276 months

Tuesday 30th August 2011
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The most important part of running it in is to keep the revs down which the ECU does for you automatically until you surpass 1243 miles.

George H

14,713 posts

170 months

Tuesday 30th August 2011
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KarlFranz said:
The most important part of running it in is to keep the revs down which the ECU does for you automatically until you surpass 1243 miles.
Why such a random mileage?

KarlFranz

2,008 posts

276 months

Tuesday 30th August 2011
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George H said:
Why such a random mileage?
2000 kilometers

George H

14,713 posts

170 months

Wednesday 31st August 2011
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KarlFranz said:
2000 kilometers
Of course. Ignore my stupidity paperbag

JohnG1

3,485 posts

211 months

Wednesday 31st August 2011
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Well why kilometers? Bloody ridiculous pseudo scientific measurements scheme dreamed up by a short French man...

And relax....

Jockman

17,988 posts

166 months

Wednesday 31st August 2011
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JohnG1 said:
Well why kilometers? Bloody ridiculous pseudo scientific measurements scheme dreamed up by a short French man...

And relax....
He didn't.

He dreamed up the kilometre.

Then it was hijacked by the US of A and it became the kilometer.

Why do we adopt the American version for kilometer but maintain the original for metre ??

And relax...smile

robgt

2,586 posts

168 months

Wednesday 31st August 2011
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Mikey, I honestly would not worry that much. I don't. My advice would be as follows :- When you start it do not let it idle, drive it. Reason. You can glaze the bores which can result in reduced power and oil burning. Do not give it the beans till it is up to temperature difficult I know but advisable. Vary the loads on the engine. sticking at 70mph for mile after mile is not running it in. Use the gears much more than you would normally, do not let her slog up hills. The net result will be a smoother quicker car. One other thing try and feed her with the best fuel you can buy. There have been reports of engine problems as a result of using cheap fuel.
My first V8 completed 5500 miles from Jan to July ran like a top and averaged 24mpg. Our new V8S has now managed her first thou. The supposed reduced fuel consumption has not materialised because we drive it in Sport all the time and keep changing gear every nano second because it is so Gooood! You will be so delighted, the S is very quick the steering is very sharp it makes one hell of a racket. Approach a corner a little too hot change down 3 times, the noise is something else steer her round no problem. I like watching the traction light flashing at me.
Keep us posted
Rob

George H

14,713 posts

170 months

Wednesday 31st August 2011
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Jockman said:
He didn't.

He dreamed up the kilometre.

Then it was hijacked by the US of A and it became the kilometer.

Why do we adopt the American version for kilometer but maintain the original for metre ??

And relax...smile
Why do the Americans even use kilometres? Every drawing they send me is in imperial.

JohnG1

3,485 posts

211 months

Wednesday 31st August 2011
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George H said:
Why do the Americans even use kilometres? Every drawing they send me is in imperial.
Ah, but I bet your American colleagues/clients do not refer to these units as "Imperial" do they?



George H

14,713 posts

170 months

Wednesday 31st August 2011
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JohnG1 said:
Ah, but I bet your American colleagues/clients do not refer to these units as "Imperial" do they?
No. Either 'English' or just 'inches'. It's just an unnecessary pain in the arse for me to convert them.

krisdelta

4,597 posts

207 months

Wednesday 31st August 2011
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Vergis said:
I think most engines are now bench run in before installation. Hence the lack of information on running it in.
This is my understanding also - I am sure the factory can confirm smile

Shmee

7,565 posts

219 months

Wednesday 31st August 2011
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Shouldn't there still be information about brakes, tyres etc though?

Jockman

17,988 posts

166 months

Wednesday 31st August 2011
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Shmee said:
Shouldn't there still be information about brakes, tyres etc though?
I get the feeling young Shmee that the brakes and tyres on Mr K's "S" will not know what's about to hit them smile

mikey k

Original Poster:

13,014 posts

222 months

Wednesday 31st August 2011
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robgt said:
Mikey, I honestly would not worry that much. I don't. My advice would be as follows :- When you start it do not let it idle, drive it. Reason. You can glaze the bores which can result in reduced power and oil burning. Do not give it the beans till it is up to temperature difficult I know but advisable. Vary the loads on the engine. sticking at 70mph for mile after mile is not running it in. Use the gears much more than you would normally, do not let her slog up hills. The net result will be a smoother quicker car. One other thing try and feed her with the best fuel you can buy. There have been reports of engine problems as a result of using cheap fuel.
My first V8 completed 5500 miles from Jan to July ran like a top and averaged 24mpg. Our new V8S has now managed her first thou. The supposed reduced fuel consumption has not materialised because we drive it in Sport all the time and keep changing gear every nano second because it is so Gooood! You will be so delighted, the S is very quick the steering is very sharp it makes one hell of a racket. Approach a corner a little too hot change down 3 times, the noise is something else steer her round no problem. I like watching the traction light flashing at me.
Keep us posted
Rob
Thanks Rob
I presumed as much
So use but don't thrash it or labour it for ~1.2k miles wink

astontec1

12 posts

176 months

Wednesday 31st August 2011
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KarlFranz said:
The most important part of running it in is to keep the revs down which the ECU does for you automatically until you surpass 1243 miles.
This is not true. there is nothing in the ecu to stop you from hitting the redline in any gear on a brand new engine. i advise you dont. Just take it easy for 500miles.

astontec1

12 posts

176 months

Wednesday 31st August 2011
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KarlFranz said:
The most important part of running it in is to keep the revs down which the ECU does for you automatically until you surpass 1243 miles.
This is not true. there is nothing in the ecu to stop you from hitting the redline in any gear on a brand new engine. i advise you dont. Just take it easy for 500miles.

KarlFranz

2,008 posts

276 months

Wednesday 31st August 2011
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astontec1 said:
This is not true. there is nothing in the ecu to stop you from hitting the redline in any gear on a brand new engine. i advise you dont. Just take it easy for 500miles.
Please be armed with facts before you take such a stern and confident tone. smile

From the Transmission section of the Vantage V8 Owner's Manual:

"For the first 1243 miles (2000km) and whenever the engine temperature is below 104F (40C) the shift conitrol will indicate early shift changes to protect the engine."

Those who have tested this have discovered that the rev limiter kicks in if you attempt to exceed this lower rev limit until the break-in period is exceeded.

Of course there is nothing to protect you from going 4th to 2nd gear while traveling at 140mph and over revving your engine, but no manual gearbox will prevent you from doing that.

Grant3

3,641 posts

261 months

Wednesday 31st August 2011
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Although the cars are bench run in it worth ensuring mechanical sympathy in the early miles -

It has been mentioned NOT to rev the car hard when cold while running in, but surely this applies at all times whatever the mileage.

For the first 1k miles-ish I would build up the demands on the engine, brakes, clutch etc to let everything bed-in. The advice to vary the revs is good, as is not overloading the engine for sustained periods, but beyond that I wouldn't worry too much. I always work on building the rev range gradually keeping it below 4-5k-ish over the first 200-300 miles then gradually upping the rev range for short periods until I'm using near full beans occasionally, then much more often as the 1k approaches. The "theory" is an engine run in aggressively, but sensibly, with mechanical sympathy will gain a few extra horses, not sure if that is true but it seems to work for me wink