Double disaster
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Managed to run over a number plate yesterday that had fallen off a car. Unfortunately it still had both the screws in it and one of them conveniently went straight through the front tyre of my V8V, attaching the number plate to wheel - it made a hell of a noise but hopefully no damage beyond the need for a new front tyre. Anyway, managed to get the plate off and drive the car to Lancaster just down the road from where I was working. This is where the real problem begins - the guy in garage kindly dropped me off at the office in a V12V. Holy s**t!!! It knew it was going to be fast but I still wasn't expecting the acceleration - not sure my face has gone back to normal yet! I'm absolutely stunned! (and loved the lightweight seats). Needless to say, I've already had a call about trading in and I can feel myself sliding down a very slippery slope - those of you that own these cars are extremely lucky 
. I think I might ask them to deliver the V8V back - if I go in there again it may prove to be a very expensive front tyre...
. I think I might ask them to deliver the V8V back - if I go in there again it may prove to be a very expensive front tyre...
michael gould said:
just as point of interest......the tyre was repairable provided it hadn't touched the side wall.....and buying tyres from main dealers is very expensive....
hope you get the V12V
I have a small hole caused by in/out nail! so nothing left in the tyre. It is right in the middle of the tread in my my nearside rear. Local Aston dealer refuses to repair, two local tyre places refuse to repair. I rang Martin Rummery at WS and he said definitely hope you get the V12V
to any repair, the tyre must be replaced.Seems I have little option with such overwhelming objections to a repair.
Oh and to the OP, its the way a lot of us fell for the V12V. Get you in one and the battle for common sense is lost.
Good luck with your futile resistance.
Di
michael gould said:
just as point of interest......the tyre was repairable provided it hadn't touched the side wall.....and buying tyres from main dealers is very expensive....
hope you get the V12V
Genuine question - what makes you so sure of this? I know that the mean dealer is a bad place to buy a tire agreed but the repair of a tyre does not sit will with me. Not taking the mickey - what's your experience?hope you get the V12V
Roo3Stuart said:
Managed to run over a number plate yesterday that had fallen off a car. Unfortunately it still had both the screws in it and one of them conveniently went straight through the front tyre of my V8V, attaching the number plate to wheel - it made a hell of a noise but hopefully no damage beyond the need for a new front tyre. Anyway, managed to get the plate off and drive the car to Lancaster just down the road from where I was working. This is where the real problem begins - the guy in garage kindly dropped me off at the office in a V12V. Holy s**t!!! It knew it was going to be fast but I still wasn't expecting the acceleration - not sure my face has gone back to normal yet! I'm absolutely stunned! (and loved the lightweight seats). Needless to say, I've already had a call about trading in and I can feel myself sliding down a very slippery slope - those of you that own these cars are extremely lucky . I think I might ask them to deliver the V8V back - if I go in there again it may prove to be a very expensive front tyre...
Look, just accept it. You will buy the V12. It's just when and not if :-). I think I might ask them to deliver the V8V back - if I go in there again it may prove to be a very expensive front tyre...I resisted from when they went on sale to April this year. And I bought the exact spec I decided on - the launch colour of mako blue, lightweight seats and B&O.
JohnG1 said:
michael gould said:
just as point of interest......the tyre was repairable provided it hadn't touched the side wall.....and buying tyres from main dealers is very expensive....
hope you get the V12V
Genuine question - what makes you so sure of this? I know that the mean dealer is a bad place to buy a tire agreed but the repair of a tyre does not sit will with me. Not taking the mickey - what's your experience?hope you get the V12V
I always buy my BMW tyres from the main dealer and find them reasonable - this is my first experience with Aston tyres so I'm sure it'll make me wince. If I'm completely honest, it's also a hell of a lot more convenient - I've just left it with them to sort out - I won't be able to get it back until Saturday because I have to work like a dog in the meantime
but rather they kept it than my local kwik fit!lady topaz said:
michael gould said:
just as point of interest......the tyre was repairable provided it hadn't touched the side wall.....and buying tyres from main dealers is very expensive....
hope you get the V12V
I have a small hole caused by in/out nail! so nothing left in the tyre. It is right in the middle of the tread in my my nearside rear. Local Aston dealer refuses to repair, two local tyre places refuse to repair. I rang Martin Rummery at WS and he said definitely hope you get the V12V
to any repair, the tyre must be replaced.Seems I have little option with such overwhelming objections to a repair.
Oh and to the OP, its the way a lot of us fell for the V12V. Get you in one and the battle for common sense is lost.
Good luck with your futile resistance.
Di
???Roo3Stuart said:
I'm going to resist, not least because I don't really have £50k spare! Although when I suggested to my wife this would be a better investment than paying off the mortgage she didn't disagree (I suspect she wasn't really listening if I'm honest)... The nasty dealer has now sent me some pictures and a spec sheet. And won't it depreciate less than my V8V, so actually cheaper to own ???
Thats the spirit, weakening in just a few hours. And you know they will offer you an irresistible offer on your V8???Good man, just ask the fella in red with the pitchfork sitting on your shoulder.
Di
Roo3Stuart said:
I've already had a call about trading in and I can feel myself sliding down a very slippery slope - those of you that own these cars are extremely lucky .
This is what happened to me. I went in for an oil change on my V8V and drove out with a new V12V. Admittedly it was more money than I ever thought I'd pay for a car (at least at this point in my life), but I have no regrets. I say go ahead and slide down the slope!.Rex Racer said:
This is what happened to me. I went in for an oil change on my V8V and drove out with a new V12V. Admittedly it was more money than I ever thought I'd pay for a car (at least at this point in my life), but I have no regrets. I say go ahead and slide down the slope!
Yep, me too. Went out in my 4.3 roadster to look at 4.7 roadsters, took delivery of the V12V two weeks later. Di - You say your puncture is right in the middle of the tread so this certainly repairable. Quite simply do not take "no" for an answer. In my experience 100% of main dealers will always refuse to repair a puncture on a high performance tyre and 80% of tyre places will do too at first. Think about it - why wouldn't they though, it is in their interest to sell you a new tyre for £400 instead of repairing it for £20! It is also a very easy sell usually as most people are uninformed of the law on repairs and scare easily into not taking a risk on their sportscar. You are point in case, having been told bad information you are now giving in and agreeing to pay for a new tyre.
There are strict rules governing when a tyre can and cannot be repaired. Print off the template from the link below and hold it against your tyre and see if the hole is instead the measurement for the given width of tyre. If it falls in the repairable area then repair it, if not then they are right and you need a new tyre. The law is there for a reason - if they say its safe to repair then it is.
I had a puncture on my rear tyre on my V12V last Sept and was presented with the same feedback. I printed off the template and drove down to my local friendly tyreshop - armed with the template they quickly agreed it was fine to repair it and £20 later I was a happy man.
http://www.etyres.co.uk/repairable-area-gauge
Aside from anything else it is an ecological crime throwing away an otherwise perfectly good tyre.
There are strict rules governing when a tyre can and cannot be repaired. Print off the template from the link below and hold it against your tyre and see if the hole is instead the measurement for the given width of tyre. If it falls in the repairable area then repair it, if not then they are right and you need a new tyre. The law is there for a reason - if they say its safe to repair then it is.
I had a puncture on my rear tyre on my V12V last Sept and was presented with the same feedback. I printed off the template and drove down to my local friendly tyreshop - armed with the template they quickly agreed it was fine to repair it and £20 later I was a happy man.
http://www.etyres.co.uk/repairable-area-gauge
Aside from anything else it is an ecological crime throwing away an otherwise perfectly good tyre.
Edited by Adam2S on Wednesday 17th August 18:28
This is my problem. My OH agrees with you 100%.
I am led by so called experts. I just know that I will feel more comfortable on new rubber. He says I am mad. £400 plus against £20.
There really should be a definitive answer.
My only question is why, if there is nothing to gain does everyone say repair "no way"?
Di
I am led by so called experts. I just know that I will feel more comfortable on new rubber. He says I am mad. £400 plus against £20.
There really should be a definitive answer.
My only question is why, if there is nothing to gain does everyone say repair "no way"?
Di
There is a definitive answer - click on the link above and print out the template! It shows you black and white what the law is! Im not sure why you are believing the word of "an expert" who is trying to sell you something over the reading the law as printed in black and white and embodied in a British Standard (currently BS AU 159f).
Edited by Adam2S on Wednesday 17th August 20:11
We got front tyres fitted by dealer. The price was almost identical to buying them from a well priced tyre centre.
That said the did make a dogs dangler of fitting them and managed to lightly scour the offside rim. The pity was that I didn't notice until about 4 months later by which point it was too late to come back on. Lesson learnt. Always scrutinize your rims carefully after having tyre work done and before you take them away.
I've previously had a front tyre repaired and it was absolutely no issue. Small screw slap bang in the middle of the tread.
In my opinion it's pretty unlikely that the steel "braid" (which is actually a mesh) is damaged as such by a screw.
I suspect that the weave is deformed by the screw, just like a thorn passing through a piece of fabric. It does not damage the fabric.
Clearly if there is steel wire visible on either side of the hole or it requires a big plug sticking in it to repair I would say do not compromise and get a new tyre.
Tyres are not an area to cut corners on, but if it can be safely repaired, why not?
That said the did make a dogs dangler of fitting them and managed to lightly scour the offside rim. The pity was that I didn't notice until about 4 months later by which point it was too late to come back on. Lesson learnt. Always scrutinize your rims carefully after having tyre work done and before you take them away.
I've previously had a front tyre repaired and it was absolutely no issue. Small screw slap bang in the middle of the tread.
In my opinion it's pretty unlikely that the steel "braid" (which is actually a mesh) is damaged as such by a screw.
I suspect that the weave is deformed by the screw, just like a thorn passing through a piece of fabric. It does not damage the fabric.
Clearly if there is steel wire visible on either side of the hole or it requires a big plug sticking in it to repair I would say do not compromise and get a new tyre.
Tyres are not an area to cut corners on, but if it can be safely repaired, why not?
michael gould said:
just as point of interest......the tyre was repairable provided it hadn't touched the side wall.....and buying tyres from main dealers is very expensive....
hope you get the V12V
Wilmslow price matched the local "shed" on my last set of rears.hope you get the V12V
There is a thread I posted on a roadside repair kit. I'll see if I can find it.
Is it not possible to claim for a tyre off the person who's number plate it was?
As for the V12, great sales tactic by AM. I've always thought that garages should give you a better courtesy car than the one you have rather than some run around. I'm sure by doing this the would see an increase in people upgrading.
As for the V12, great sales tactic by AM. I've always thought that garages should give you a better courtesy car than the one you have rather than some run around. I'm sure by doing this the would see an increase in people upgrading.
Adam2S said:
There is a definitive answer - click on the link above and print out the template! It shows you black and white what the law is! Im not sure why you are believing the word of "an expert" who is trying to sell you something over the reading the law as printed in black and white and embodied in a British Standard (currently BS AU 159f).
So why does WS who have nothing to gain as far as I can see say NO.Edited by Adam2S on Wednesday 17th August 20:11
I am not trying to be argumentative, and Yes they are probably covering their a*se as they haven't seen the tyre, but Martin was very very adamant re do not have a repair on these tyres.
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