Discussion
cjm said:
Have none of the mags reviewed or tested a One-77? Evo had a big feature on the car during the build and design but I haven’t noticed anything else?
I asked this of all the major car mag editors on Twitter, and they all came back and said 'Sometime in the future' is what they've been told by Aston.
Beefmeister said:
I asked this of all the major car mag editors on Twitter, and they all came back and said 'Sometime in the future' is what they've been told by Aston.
Yes, once they are all sold and people cannot read a bad review!!It would be interesting to see what it's like to drive around a few twisties. Just a shame I don't have a spare £2,000,000 to find out
At the Silverstone AML trackday, Marek Reichman and a couple of AML drivers took it around the national track in anger and by the looks (and sound) of it it seemed to do exeptionally well so i don't think Aston should be too nervous about any negative press. They are probably just thinking, that it is not commercial worthwile to hand the car over to the motoring press when (almost) all cars have been spoken for anyway.
I just wonder how much road testing has been done for the 1-77. AML took one to Nardo to run it at 220mph+ but how much real world testing has been done? The inboard suspension can be adjusted a lot but I wonder if any buyer will ever really spank it round a few twisties?
It would be very interesting to see how many development miles were driven by AML for this car.
It would be very interesting to see how many development miles were driven by AML for this car.
Saw/Heard the one77 at Goodwood.
Way too quiet IMHO and the looks don't quite gel for my eyes. Too much McMerc SLR non-cohesive bonnet/cabin transition to my eyes.
But as they say. Beauty is in the eye of the beeholder or something. That said the visible CF and coil over suspension looks very special.
Each to their own. I think a Vantage of whatever flavour looks better.
Given £1.8M I'm sure I would spend it elsewhere.
Way too quiet IMHO and the looks don't quite gel for my eyes. Too much McMerc SLR non-cohesive bonnet/cabin transition to my eyes.
But as they say. Beauty is in the eye of the beeholder or something. That said the visible CF and coil over suspension looks very special.
Each to their own. I think a Vantage of whatever flavour looks better.
Given £1.8M I'm sure I would spend it elsewhere.
JohnG1 said:
I just wonder how much road testing has been done for the 1-77. AML took one to Nardo to run it at 220mph+ but how much real world testing has been done? The inboard suspension can be adjusted a lot but I wonder if any buyer will ever really spank it round a few twisties?
It would be very interesting to see how many development miles were driven by AML for this car.
I also wonder what "kinks" the car has, being new and being produced in such low numbers. Aston has worked out a lot of the kinks of the Vantage over the years (difficulty cold shifting, steering wheel shudder, etc.). If I paid around $2 mill for a car, I would expect it to be perfect, especially considering that the performance will likely not match others in the same price range (e.g., Veyron). Then again, if I could afford the One-77, maybe I wouldn't care all that much. It would be very interesting to see how many development miles were driven by AML for this car.
The one Aston had outside their hospitality suite at Le Mans had been driven over through the mountains from Switzerland by its owner. So some of them get used, and used properly!
It looked fantastic, but my wealth would need to be measured in the billions rather than the millions in order to spend that kind of dosh. A DBS Volante rebuilt to my spec at Works Service would do me just fine thanks
It looked fantastic, but my wealth would need to be measured in the billions rather than the millions in order to spend that kind of dosh. A DBS Volante rebuilt to my spec at Works Service would do me just fine thanks
yeti said:
The one Aston had outside their hospitality suite at Le Mans had been driven over through the mountains from Switzerland by its owner. So some of them get used, and used properly!
It looked fantastic, but my wealth would need to be measured in the billions rather than the millions in order to spend that kind of dosh. A DBS Volante rebuilt to my spec at Works Service would do me just fine thanks
That one had done 13,000 kms and as you say, is regularly used. So too the New Zealand one with the video clips doing the rounds on the internetIt looked fantastic, but my wealth would need to be measured in the billions rather than the millions in order to spend that kind of dosh. A DBS Volante rebuilt to my spec at Works Service would do me just fine thanks
But as they haven't sold them all yet and they do seem to now have a full production 'demo car' (the second car at le Mans, with the English plates, which is definitely an Aston car), you have to wonder somewhat cynically why they haven't let any of the press loose in one, even if it was just a single 'friendly' journo
jonby said:
But as they haven't sold them all yet and they do seem to now have a full production 'demo car' (the second car at le Mans, with the English plates, which is definitely an Aston car), you have to wonder somewhat cynically why they haven't let any of the press loose in one, even if it was just a single 'friendly' journo
That car is 'number 78' of the 77 built. It is and will remain Aston's car I hadn't considered they hadn't let the press have one. I just don't think they need to. It is a wonderful grand tourer but is unlikely to outpace a Koeniggsegg or a Veyron SS. Taking it round the Top Gear track (for example) would not put it top and it would therfore been seen as inferior, not really much for the press to say that's positive from a review. It's a lifestyle-choice car (if that's not too w@nky a term) and a showcase for what can be done by AML.
JohnG1 said:
Do you reckon I could buy a 7.3 V12 from AML and ask Works Service to fit it to my Vantage V12 along with a suitable gearbox?
Maybe less faff than asking Bamford Rose to work on the V12V ;-)
Note: I'm just wondering, I am sure there are lots of dull reasons not to....
If I recall correctly the engine is made by Cosworth, may be possible to get one through them...Maybe less faff than asking Bamford Rose to work on the V12V ;-)
Note: I'm just wondering, I am sure there are lots of dull reasons not to....
JohnG1 said:
Do you reckon I could buy a 7.3 V12 from AML and ask Works Service to fit it to my Vantage V12 along with a suitable gearbox?
Maybe less faff than asking Bamford Rose to work on the V12V ;-)
Note: I'm just wondering, I am sure there are lots of dull reasons not to....
Would it fit? I thought that fitting the 6.0 V12 was difficult because of lack of space for adequate cooling, although I may be dreaming.Maybe less faff than asking Bamford Rose to work on the V12V ;-)
Note: I'm just wondering, I am sure there are lots of dull reasons not to....
LongLiveTazio said:
Would it fit? I thought that fitting the 6.0 V12 was difficult because of lack of space for adequate cooling, although I may be dreaming.
Cooling is an issue for the V12 in the Vantage body for sure - it runs very hot. But the block going to be a wee bit smaller but the dry sump kit will have to go somewhere. I'm pretty sure that as an aftermarket job it could be done.The V12 block is even cast using a Cosworth technique. Although Cosworth make the engines I doubt that AML have given them the right to sell a box engine...
Stick one of those engines in a Zagato and now you are talking!
yeti said:
jonby said:
But as they haven't sold them all yet and they do seem to now have a full production 'demo car' (the second car at le Mans, with the English plates, which is definitely an Aston car), you have to wonder somewhat cynically why they haven't let any of the press loose in one, even if it was just a single 'friendly' journo
That car is 'number 78' of the 77 built. It is and will remain Aston's car I hadn't considered they hadn't let the press have one. I just don't think they need to. It is a wonderful grand tourer but is unlikely to outpace a Koeniggsegg or a Veyron SS. Taking it round the Top Gear track (for example) would not put it top and it would therfore been seen as inferior, not really much for the press to say that's positive from a review. It's a lifestyle-choice car (if that's not too w@nky a term) and a showcase for what can be done by AML.
jonby said:
I suspect that you're right - it isn't really trying to do the same things as the other hypercars which each have their own individual aims and downsides. I would only agree that they don't need to let a journo loose on one if they had sold them all. I don't know how many are left but my understanding is that there are at least some, which I find odd when it so beautiful, so different, so powerful and there is a limit of just 77
I don't actually know, so genuine question - do they let prospective owners test drive them? For the same sort of money, the Bugatti Veyron had so many more column inches and endless TV time, even doumentaries about it and there were so many more of them about - it wasn't anywhere near such limited production, but they've all gone. And it's just a big VW 
Beginning to think you're right, but I assume Aston are trying to be, well... all 'Aston' about it and let the cars sell themselves. But they're not, though maybe this is all part of some plan.
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